Who else thinks the 90s were shit? The games might have seemed great...

Who else thinks the 90s were shit? The games might have seemed great, but only because they were one of the few decent things (at the time) to escape how atrocious the decade was. This is the decade of grunge for fuck sakes...and for good reason; who in their right mind has *fond* memories hyper manic 90s commercialism? 2000s is when games actually started to good good and things settled down for a bit.

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MGS2 came out in '01.

It was meant to be an example of a good game from the 2000s that did a decent of job of putting the shit show that was the 90s into perspective in a way.

Games back then had charm and made me feel. Nothing does that now

2000s are just as bad in terms of commercialism.

And you can't seriously think that 2000s shit rock and pop is better than grunge.

You're also extremely contrarian if you think the 2000s is when games 'started to get good'.

90s were new and exciting and optimistic about the future. Then 2000 hit, no Y2K, 9/11 and everything went to hell after, including the optimistic outlook.

Games were fucking great then because they weren't all the same rehashed bullshit like AC, Fifa, COD, etc. Just look at the library for PS1.

And to add to that, the amount of progress between succesive games (i.e. Tekken 1->2->3) was incredible since I remember Tekken 2 being realistic as fuck to me back then. The giant leaps in progress between games were exciting. The fact MGS1 had footsteps and guards following them was a huge leap from SNES video games, for example.

Games were actually interesting

life wasn't though and still isn't

90s were a better time for games because there was a greater selection of variety in games and people weren't afraid to experiment and try something new.

2000s can be summed up as Call of Halo: the prequel part six.

eternal reminder that 1998 was the best year ever for videogames

>optimistic about the future
And why aren't people optimistic now? It's not simply because of 911, it's because of all the decedent indulgence from the 90s. The hangover from all the financial bubbles.

Angry beta numale with shit childhood detected

Mostly because the current state of the world, global warming, incoming famines and other grim outlooks are becoming increasingly realistic and we can't ignore them for much longer without large parts of the world dying. So... yeah.

If you thin the 90s were the decade of commercialism, then how would you define the 10s?
911 was a pretty big part of that, since it showed Americans that they weren't insecure only in their economic situation, but that they were no longer invincible either

Only the later half of the 2000's was plagued with bland rehashes of bad games. Everything pre-2006 is fine

Not to sound like a truther, but the middle east conflicts was obviously taken advantage of by the military industrial complex *because* of the economic situation.

You changed mate, not the games.

It could be, but I'm not talking about the actual facts, I'm talking about the perception by the general population

I think Metal Gear Remake is the real Metal Gear Solid

Grunge is an extension of 60 and 70s degeneracy/self-destruction

We've all changed, but there's no denying there's a lot more focus on money and less emphasis on the game itself. It's why you don't see as many platformers, and everything is a shooter. It's easy to bust out, familiar to play, and they can tack on sequels and dlc without much effort in the story department.

The best Sodom, Kreator and Sporitualized albums all happened in the 90's. Music is a lot like indie games, user. There's a lot of good shit but it's not the first layer of 8bit pixelshit you're going to go searching through.

>grunge
>ever good
Nirvana was a mistake

Never implied it was good, but it's better than 2000s rock.

15 or 16 years old for sure.

Not trying to sound like a faggot but mainstream music no matter the decade has never been the best music available and generally isn't even the highest quality of music available either.

I'm almost thirty, dawg.

Nah you're kinda right. The 90s were dumb, the only good part about it was underground raves and videogames but even those were better in the 00s.

We wore fucking Jnco's in the 90s, we'll never atone for that bullshit

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The late 90s were kind of shit, yeah, but better than any of the 00s and way better than anything in this decade.

The true golden age was from 85 to 95.

00s were shallow as fuck, but you might have nostalgia since it was your childhood. But nope, OP, sorry. It wasn't any good.

I never played Metal Gear game before. Where do I start?

Metal Gear 1 (MSX)

The only thing I'm nostalgic about is picking mushrooms with my grandfather in the forest.

The post-2000 world is when I stopped getting hyped for games.

Maybe it's because I got older but after the PS2 nothing was exciting. The jump from 2D to 3D and then to decent looking 3D on the PS2 was HUGE. The the PS3 was like "oh, well that looks good I guess" and the PS4 and Xbone might as well not even exist.

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Yeah collect those beanie babies and pogs. Collect them. You haven't collected enough, collect some more. That's the 90s: collect every useless piece of shit that you can.

>you will never be 9 again going around in the woods picking up mushrooms that your grandpa "forgot" to spot

True

Better than collecting memes like today's kids.

At least they are physical goods, the 10s are all about hoarding digital crap so that you can show off to your friends on Facebook and Reddit for virtual social gratification

>they were one of the few decent things (at the time) to escape how atrocious the decade was.

I think the only thing that was notably shit about the 90s was the films.

The decade was so bad for movies that hacks like Quentin Tarantino and Kevin Smith were praised as if they were the new Martin Scorseses.

Pretty much this. Crysis was pretty much an awesome tech demo on what potential could be but for fuck sakes the world was mostly empty and needed mods to pull out its potential. Same goes for fallout and elder scrolls. Nothing is innovative anymore and held back thanks to technology not advancing as much as it should. VR was a huge thing back in the 90s and its back. Its just more in control and sharper graphics but nothing is blowing people away as it should be. We are at a plateau in creativity.

This. I distinctly recall more variety in the late 90s and early 2000s, but really only in the design department. I remember a lot of platformers and survival horrors, and generic racing titles.
That being said, they had character.

They were memes, but wasted more resources, especially for all the ridiculous commercials to spread the memes and get people to waste money on them.

Remember when camera phones weren't everywhere and you didn't have to worry about photos/videos being uploaded to the Internet that some faggot took, just to mock people?

The 90s was a mistake.

You'd be surprised, humans still waste resource on memes.

Never saw the amount of meme t-shirts, pins and other accesories that the youth is wearing?

I think it was 2009 when I started seeing trollface t-shirts, now that's old, kids are wearing pepes and wojaks.

Every decade has been different and offer different experiences. To say one is better than the other is retarded. I love the large worlds, 64 player games of today while I also love the charm and difficulty of games of yesteryear like DKR.

The best thing about moving to the future is we can still experience the memories of our old games through emulators or buying the consoles and games.

Appreciate everything we have now and had them instead of arguing about the changes.

I for one fucking love current year because Dirt Rally is turning out to be more amazing than I thought and games are overall of much better quality.

Sure, some games are pure shit story or gameplay wise, but not all of them.

Sure buddy, sure.

early noughties were a very weird time for culture in general
everything was so kitschy and plastic

>2000s is when games actually started to good good

This makes me wonder... we know that the 80s have a very distinct aesthetic, as did the 70s, the 60s, the 50s...
The 90s also have their own aesthetic.

But what about the 00s? I can't really discern anything that "looks" 00s, all that comes to mind is maybe.. Matrix?

What about the fashion? what about the music?

All I remember from the 00s in terms of fashion is something like pic related, maybe, and in music it was like a more rhythm n blues-y hip hop maybe? I dunno... the 00s seem to lack any sort of substance.

True, the only video games that were literally better in the 90s were JRPGs (FFXbabbies and Talesfags need not apply) Castlevania and Mega Man, everything else from sports to fighting games to FPSs saw an all-round improvement afterwards.

Are you for real? fighting games were dead for the majority of 00s until SF IV came out, and most of the games that are still considered to be the best in the genre are from the 90s.

I think globalisation gained a fuckton of speed in the 00's so trends started dying as fast at they were born
see how the scene kids you made fun of in 2006 were already almost extinct in 2010-11?
21st century is very different from the 20th

It makes sense, but it's still incredible how strong the difference is.

The past 16 years seem like a blur in my memory, I can't think of anything concrete besides politics and my personal life. Everything else (pop culture, etc) seems to be in a limbo.

Maybe they were right.

I wonder how it happened...

>I wonder how widespread access to the Internet happened
yes, user, hardware and insfrastructure getting cheaper and better is a jewish conspiracy to sell more stuff at hot topic or whatever

>literally ITT: GET OFF MUH LAWNN kids!!!

Jeans and partially exposed upper body tops were popular on women, with long straight/curly dyed blonde hair.
There was a lot of denim, sew-ins, tiled belts and spiked hair across the board. Look at N-Sync, Spice Girls. Pretty much just cheesy grungy bullshit.

triggered gen Zer.

You grew up in the shittiest decade for culture, deal with it.

That sounds more like 90s, especially the jeans and upper body tops.

Spice Girls is as 90s as it gets, and they were forgotten as soon as the new millennium started.

Sup Forums is that way

They were a meme.
Who even cares about The Beatles nowadays?

You mentioned Spice Girls, not me.

Who were the meme musicians of the 00s, anyway?

The Outkast?

Recently saw a "keep calm and..." Shirt when I went out for food.

People actually wear this shit? It's not even that good. Even joke shirts are marginally above that.

yeah it's been like that for several years now.

Have you watched the news on TV recently? It's basically all memes now.

Short lived fads is nothing new to the 00s.

Take grunge, for example. People consider it iconic of the 90s but it wasn't really a culture fad for more than a few years. Grunge was well and truly dead long before the 90s ended.

The 90s was probably the first decade for more than half a century that actually failed to come up with anything unique for it's culture, it was all rehashing previous fads. And that's all pop culture has been since then, short lived rehashes.

Poster you replied to.
Belgiumfag here and don't recall anything like that on the tv news at least.

Unless terrorism is a meme.

>linkin park
>not better than 90s shit lesbian music

Whatever you say faggot

Nirvana was shit, but Soundgarden was fantastic.

Here in murrica TV news is all about the latest online trends and they even do special meme segments where they show the most viral meme pics from twitter and facebook.

>using nu-crash next to Crash 2's logo

>Soundgarden
>Alice in Chains
>Pearl Jam
>Stone Temple Pilots
>Puddle of Mudd

all were way better than Nirvana, well now i have to to listen to those songs once again

>people miss grunge

nostalgia goggled retard

I also forget about
>Audioslave
>Smashing Pumpkins

>grunge
maybe if you're some sad cunt

There will be people having nostalgia for dubstep in 5 years or so.

Already happening m8
i mean like, actual dubstep, not that shit that happened when americans and israelis got hold of it
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>this song is 9 years old

>>Smashing Pumpkins

I'll let Pearl Jam and Puddle of Mudd slide but you can fuck right off with this one.

Smashing Pumpkins were THE overrated "alternative" band of the 90s. No way are they better than Nirvana.

I know the 70s and 80s were better because I saw Cocaine Cowboys.

>a non country talking about his non mattering news

Here in real countries news media is trying to invoke meme magic

90s was a great time for vidya which is the only factor that matters on a vidya board. The quality of games extended into the early 2000s and quality dropped dramatically after 2007.

>90s the age of indulgence and decadence

Nigga that was the previous decade. You know the one where everything was terrible.

Still too new for me, can't get nostalgic for that shit.

I get nostalgic with this
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>Found Nirvana cuck

Oddly this album was probably right.

>people are unironically praising pearl jam and putting it above nirvana
found the contrarians
pearl jam was absolute shit, I don't know how they gained any fanbase

My impression of OP during the 90's:

>GOO GOO GAA GAA
Or, more likely,
>IM A FAGGOT SPERM IN A FAG'S FAGGY NUTSACK, I HOPE HE RELEASES ME INTO THAT FAT HOOKER SOON!

>Smashing Pumpkins fan thinks he's in a position to give anyone shit

Nah, I used to steal shit from a Blockbuster in 96.

you know what was shittier than the 90s?

The 80s

And the 70s were even worse

50s and 60s were okay though

But then again the 40s were... well, we don't even need to talk about those

>grunge

Why? The 90s gave us OK Computer, American Football and Aquemini

All of them better than the 00s/10s though

>talking shit about grunge

>Christ-chan
>liking grunge

>IM A FAGGOT SPERM IN A FAG'S FAGGY NUTSACK, I HOPE HE RELEASES ME INTO THAT FAT HOOKER SOON!

why did i imagine gilbert gottfried saying that
why

It's the only disgust picture i have on my phone

I don't think that a decade with a world war in it can be better than anything

In any case 2010s aren't that bad, they're just a bit "empty", and 00s are like an extension of the 90s