Why is Nintendo so afraid of tone shifts in Mario these days? Luigis Mansion had a genuinely spooky atmosphere and even Super Mario Sunshine felt like an actually native place.
Do you wish they'd do more games like these or are you ok with the sort of homogenization they've been doing recently?
Wyatt Anderson
They're bleeding money and playing it safe.
John Sanders
>genuinely spooky
Not really.
Well, maybe when the power went out.
Nathan Martinez
So how much atmosphere did this series lose with it's sequel?
Nolan Adams
>genuinely spooky atmosphere
I don't think so. Maybe there were a couple of areas here and then, but the game was quick to remind you that you were playing a Mario game with its silly ghosts and those terrible boo puns.
Cameron Richardson
Holy fuck Luigi's mansion is the king of spooky yet fun atmosphere. The game was genuinely spooky when the power in the whole house turned off about 3/4ths though the game, nowhere was safe. Sunshine was good as well but for different reasons
Jose King
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Juan Martinez
Because Sony and Microsoft are crushing them in quality (as usual).
And nintendo feels like giving up and dying.
Oliver Ward
A fair bit. Here's an analogy for it. Luigi's Mansion is silly in a creepy way but Dark Moon is creepy in a silly way.
Jason Collins
LM was spooky? I felt more like it had a mysterious goofy exploration atmosphere.
Blake Taylor
LM was not spooky. GC one was.
Christopher Smith
perfectly okay with Dark Moon tbqh
I did miss the unique ghosts but liked the boss fights(sans the haunted clock) and the Poltergust upgrades were WAY too strong or necessary for the really high HP bullshit
the ending was pure justice, Luigi getting all the attention, nearly completely kicking his fear of ghosts -and- adopting Polterpup? fucking perfect
Benjamin Rodriguez
Why are you contradicting yourself? You say Luigi's Mansion was not spooky, but at the same time, it is?
Ryder Ward
He thought you were talking about Dark Moon because he didn't realize he was looking at an L instead of a D.
David Diaz
mario isn't really know for silly ghosts and puns
Cameron Reyes
So is King Boo the only villain who could actually defeat Mario
Thomas Johnson
Because the Gamecube got shafted for it, in the absence of a mainline game.
Wind Waker wouldn't have caught so much shit, if only it had been released after a LoZ that looked like the Space World 2002 Tech Demo.
Dylan Kelly
Bowser also traps Mario in SM64DS.
Logan Reed
Mario Sunshine is my favorite in the series simply because of how fucking fresh yet familiar it feels. Every enemy and every character feels new, but they all fit with the traditional Mario enemy mechanics.
Jonathan Clark
Mario sunshine is a bootleg Sonic adventure 2
and fuck modern Mario for making its characters behave like retarded sonic ocs. im looking at you "donut steal" Rosalina
Bentley Jackson
Not canon.
Benjamin Carter
Miyamoto wants Mario games to be a cheerful, festive experience
Logan Johnson
Here's another analogy Luigi's Mansion is Goosebumps Dark Moon is 60's Scooby Doo
Kevin Sullivan
That is the most retarded way of describing sunshine I've ever seen, would you please elaborate?
Matthew Allen
>Mario sunshine is a bootleg Sonic adventure 2 What the actual fuck does this even mean?
Eli Morales
>Mario sunshine is a bootleg Sonic adventure 2
And Space Channel 5 is a bootleg Dance Dance Revolution?
Brody Morales
Is that wrong though?
Lucas Murphy
No we need edgy, edgy makes everything better I want my friends to think I'm cool.
Christian Foster
Dark Moon was a fantastic game, and I love how unhinged King Boo was in it. They may have toned down the atmosphere, but he sure as shit didn't lose anything in the transition.
First game was still better, but I wasn't let down.
Charles Gray
Faker? I think you're the fake around here. You're comparing yourself to me? Ha. You're not even good enough to be my fake.
Nathan Moore
see here Shadow Mario is literally just Shadow
Josiah Nelson
Okay, how much sense does that make outside of school recess tier discussion about games?
Parker Ross
Mario games will never be amazing until Daisy gets her model fixed and her tan back. Mark my words.
Once you see Nintendo doing this, it's time.
Evan Hall
I'll make you eat those words!
Brandon Fisher
Until they start reusing the old Mario 64 renders.
Brody Russell
They gotta make it HD and re texture it! Then it'll look great!
Jace Powell
What complaints do you guys have about Luigis Mansion? In my eyes, it's pretty damn close to a perfect game. Fun, innovative and it never has a "ugh this part" segment. Im curious Sup Forums
Noah Rodriguez
I felt cheated by how short it was when I was a kid, but that was a different time and I had a different mindset. At this point I find it hard to level a criticism against it other than it maybe being a bit easy, but that's what trying to get the best mansion and all the gold framed portraits is for.
Ethan Brooks
Luigi's Mansion is legitimately my favorite game ever. Dark Moon wasn't a bad game, but I feel like it lost a lot in its atmosphere change.
Also to some people the blackout part was definitely a "ugh this part" segment, considering the hint about where to find the ghost made no sense (room of mirrors? Oh, so that room that just had one tiny ass mirror in it) and people had no idea where to find him. It's also kinda short.
If they ever make a 3rd game I hope it's more like the first one, but I really can't see that happening again. It came out at the right time, the way I see it.
Henry Phillips
Was Bowser dead?
Connor Richardson
>If they ever make a 3rd game I hope it's more like the first one, but I really can't see that happening again. It came out at the right time, the way I see it.
Dark Moon was the way it was due to being on a handheld, at least the mission format and things were a bit brighter due to the 3D screens not taking to darkness well. If LM3 was on a console, it probably be closer to the first one.