How would Kalos League Champion Ash stack up against Red from the Pokemon games?

How would Kalos League Champion Ash stack up against Red from the Pokemon games?

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Did he actually win this time?

It was the shitier league ever though.

is this Gamefreak jumping the shark?

If Ash assembled an A-Team of Uberchu, Infernape, Sceptile, Greninja, Charizard, and fuck I don't know... Kingler, he'd probably push Red's shit in.

Depends, are you talking about shroud dual iaigiri wielding Satoshi Gekkouga? Or Kyodai Mizu Shuriken Dual Iaigiri wielding Satoshi Gekkouga? Or Kyodai Mizu Shuriken Mizuton Kunai Satoshi Gekkouga? Or are we talking about red glowing Kyodai Mizu Shuriken Gekkouga with access to Mizu Kunai, Kage Bunshin and Tsubame Gaeshi techniques as well as the ability to use Chou Odama Kyodai Mizushuriken and Orenji Kyodai Mizu Shuriken while he and Satoshi are linked via eyesight to sense and perceive danger and counter any attacks that come their way with speed, power and durability increased to their maximum limits?

Snorelax

He needs to evolve his fucking Quilava into Typhlosion and scrap Charizard.

For real. Charizard is cool and all but he's a fucking jobber compared to niggas like Greninja.

I love the leagues because it's the only time Ash ever uses his old Pokemon; I didn't want BW series or XY; does he break out the old dudes for the Leagues? I usually watch the Leagues and skip the rest of the series.

>doing anything other than beating the league with pokemon captured from that league

such is life for a pokemon master

Typhlosion is garbage though.

Red is a better trainer and actually knows weakness. If its a real pokemon battle Red. If Ash can break the rules like he does when Pikachu used thunder on Onyx idk I guess Ash.

Fuck that. He should have evolved Gibble.
It would have been so cool to see Ash with a Garchomp taking on Cynthia's in Sinnoh.
Instead, Ash lost to the legendary faggot.

Unova leave Ash uses his losers from Unova and gets knocked out in the first round by a kid who didn't even know you were allowed 6 Pokemon.
Ash was at a low point during Unova, especially after he ass kicking he delivered in Sinnoh. It took some guy with a team of (presumably) all legendaries to beat him.

but the entire reason the anime felates ash is because his ''unpredictable strategy'' makes him dangerous even when he's going up against you with a type disadvantage

Anime doesn't follow the game logic of type matchups too well.

Remember the time Pikachu and Swellow wore thunder as armor?

Yeah but I always thought it was stupid even when I was younger.

Exactly so depending on the rules. If its game rules RED, if its anime rules Ash.

Also Red has Mew so maybe still Red.

I hope Ash actually wins a league for once.

The writers don't give a shit about types, or pretty much 80% of the mechanics of pokemon.

Still not as shitty as "lollegendaries"

>unpredictable strategy
Ash is Jackie Chan?

>Ash actually won something

Oh shit, we've all slipped into an alternate universe. First S&M ditches gyms and now this.

is Jackie Chan Naruto?

>3 flying types

How did he not get his shot kicked in? Even with narufusion frog.

>Ash is actually a good trainer now
What happened bros?

everyone in kalos just surrendered, basically

Its not over yet.
Based on episode titles the final match gets interrupted team Team Whatever.

you know what that means

>Disregard type advantage
>Disregard Pikachu
>Give him a new pokemon fusion ability
>Give him 2 dragons

There we go

Types don't matter in the ashime

>team flare wants the energy from the finals itself
>already confirmed the battle will end in the summaries before they act up

why have you lied to us, user

Ash is the biggest fucking shitter

He literally NEVER earns anything he gets

Here is how Ash gets his Gym badges

>Challenges Gym leader
>Loses really fucking badly because he is a shitter
>OH NO TEAM ROCKET/ANTAGONIST OF THE WEEK
>Ash lucks out and somehow stops them
>HERE ASH TAKE THIS BADGE YOU HAVE EARNED IT DESPITE CLEARLY DISPLAYING THAT YOU DO NOT IN FACT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO EARN IT

Seriously every fucking time

Well Kalos is basically France, so their match likely gets interrupted by ISIS.

That hasn't been the case in like a decade.

He'd probably get the most meta IV pokemon and just let it go cause of feelings.

What a fag haha

This character design is pretty fucking sweet, actually. I caught glimpses of Ash's transformations here and there and thought they all looked like ass. This one's a keeper. Better than his original outfit.

Everyone on Sup Forums hates reddit, but just go on Whowouldwin and ask them. They do shit like this on a daily basis.

it's like you haven't even watched xy

>transformations

do you mean his clothes changing every gen?

>Gen 1 Sugimori style

HE STILL GOT IT, PLEASE MAKE MORE DRAWINGS LIKE THIS SUGIMORI-SAMA

>gif

Yes. Sorry, just finished browsing a DBZ thread.

In all fairness, if they did give a shit about the mechanics then most battles in the show would consist entirely of switching and one-shotting.

Ash ketchum fails at everything ever. Repeatedly.

Poke_____ Red wins in all his appearances.

certainly helps that he's drawn older/taller

compare that to this dope

Best team based on feats would be Infernape, Krookodile, Snorlax, Charizard, Greninja and Goodra

Yep.He looks sweet. And the gifs I see here and there make me almost want to watch the show. At least for them sweet-ass looking fights going on.

that's bullshit. They always force us to cut to the sidelines mid-battle to remind everyone what the type advantages are or what the moves are called. If Ash wins despite it, its to show that Ash overcame or surprised everyone in the face of a type weakness

By the way I hate fucking hate Greninja and it's a bigger Mary Sue than Charizard ever was

>Tfw they had to invent Ash a unique Mega evolution to make him not a shit trainer.

You forgot Kingler.

I get how a "serious" and competent Ash may sound appealing, but I just wish the show got a little back to its roots and wasn't a huge advertisement for the games. The original series had way more comedy and heart put it into it, and wasn't afraid to show you don't always win, even if it was a Sailor Moon me too anime. But I guess this is the best they can get nowadays without axing it. I'll be happy for Ash if he actually wins.

just browse through the gym battles, though some of the filler is pretty good like the pokeball factory one.

Kingler's infamous for one battle. Later it loses to an Arcanine and a Psyduck

>he doesn't know

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they made him a not shit trainer and THEN gave him Greninja

>Almost all the gen 5 pokemon are pure shit tier

I don't know what i expected.

Ash's Pigdeotto never won a battle?

Why was Gen V's anime so bad? Palpitoad is one of my favourite Water Pokemon, and Ash fucked up every battle with him.

>Palpitoad, use Mud Slap!
>Sorry, Ash, but I'm using a Flying-type.
>NANI!?

Goodra is shit, it's 100% win rate was only because it only had two battles and it's not even that anymore.

Pikachu at it's best is absolutely worthy of a spot, come League time it always performs well. It's beaten two legendaries by itself and is the only one that's been pulling it's own weight besides Greninja in the Kalos League.

Ash was legit retarded in gen V. And everyone knew it too.

IT'S HAPPENING

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>Using "Iron Tail" against a Steel type
>Not just using Thunder imeddiately for the type advantage
>Pikachu still isnt a Raichu

looks p shit to me.

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>retina is still with him

THE SHIP HAS SET SAIL

OH NO!

MY FRIDGE!

IT HAS MILK AND EGGS IN IT

It dumped Thunder for Volt Tackle after Hoenn, which was smart. Then it lost THAT for fucking Electro Ball, which was pantsu on head retarded.

Electric is neutral to steel tho.

Pikachu is as strong or weak as the plot demands it, thing is it's never clutch against top tier opponents and the Tobias battle cited is all around bull shit

>implying the ship can withstand the marketing cannons

>Repost is forbidden

YAMERO user

I want this to be real

LOL ICE BEAM DUDE

>Not his Gen 2 A-team

>>HERE ASH TAKE THIS BADGE YOU HAVE EARNED IT DESPITE CLEARLY DISPLAYING THAT YOU DO NOT IN FACT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO EARN IT
The gen with the most "gifted" gym badges was the first one though. Usually whenever Ash loses against a leader he rechallenges them and wins in his second try.

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Can you not tell it's fake? Look at the bottom.

>kingler
Good taste, motherfucking crabhammer

>not sizing up your opponent with a move as versatile and broken as iron tail first
>implying using thunder effectively wasn't his plan
>implying pikachu didn't already take down a pokemon before this
>implying pikachu's speed wasn't a crucial factor in this matchup turning out how it did
>impyling ash doesn't take advantage of that speed all the time

More like Plot Armor.

Same.

this is a youtube-tier post

>this was all for nothing

if this season was how I got into pokemon as a kid I'd never trust them ever again

He's still 5'3 and like canonically 13

Both are inferior to Manga Red

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So you stopped watching after orange islands, huh?

Why is Moon so perfect, guys?

I want to shoot my seed inside of her.

doubt it. they've put too much effort into building it up and it'd be flat out cruel for her to leave now. expect whatever happens to be resolved in sun and moon.

what does this mean? all female travel companions

at least gets STAB

>Pikachu loses Thunder
This is the point that the anime died. Replacing the iconic kamehameha of your series with "teleports in front of you" is cancer.

I want to rub my dick on her armpits.

What the f*ck? She's like 11, Arceus Christ.

Hrm?

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Friendly reminder that Ash/May is patrician ship

But really, they've been cucking him since fucking Misty. For YEARS.

compare with XY and XYZ Ash

Bigger they retconned her into ashes backstory for ducks sake. And she's wearing the fem trainers outfit. I mean come on man.

But suicide rush VOLTEKKA was a lot cooler. Thunder was just a stronged Thunderbolt and not even impressive looking. I wish it had done the "massive lightning bolt dropping down from the sky" thing more, that portrayal was pretty cool, and more accurate to the games.

>Manga Red
There's several, Specialfag.