Was VR a meme? Is it over already?

Was VR a meme? Is it over already?

It's currently flat-lining, but it will have a blip when PSVR comes out, mostly because people forgot to cancel their pre=orders, but then it will die shortly thereafter

Honestly not sure. I don't think so but I think it will take a few years yet before its ready to be more than a small niche enthusiast thing.

AR also just seems like it's going to be waaay bigger when it gets here properly.

Eh I'd say it didn't take off like people thought it would. The push to make it a more consumer product helped bring interest to the idea and move it back into popular conciseness. Probably will lay low in the consumer level news for while until a major refinement like reducing the amount of motion sickness the or a price drop.

Why would I want to play a video game set in my house?

Software design is not and never will be good enough for the kind of AR video gaming you're imagining. But VR has the same problem, that it's long on imagination and short on implementation.

if someone would actually make a game for it instead of a tech demo it might have a chance. Even if the first gen had only one actual game it would prove the profitability for the 2nd gen

Yes, Oculus killed it with their jewery.

>tfw we could've had a bunch of older games ported to VR
>instead we got shitty tech demos
Fucking Facebook.
Fucking Valve.

>even cheap shit like PSVR is too expensive
>only games at this point are tech demos

The only VR game I have the slightest interest in is Golem, and that is less about the game and more about Marty O'Donnell's involvement.

I don't see how it's useful for anything but racing games and rollercoaster rides, the moment you start to walk around the immersion breaks

>he thinks VR will be a thing
>when augmented reality is so much cheaper and successful

what is palming lucker thinking right now?

I don't understand what people think AR games will be.

Pokemon go?

Seriously what good could come from incorporating my room into a game.

That's right Jay

Probably like motion controls were. People still either a) don't undestand that they're too gimmicky to be worth it or b) the devs still don't understand how to make a practical use of them.

Five nights at freddy AR game when?

because i can sure jump over a building in augmented reality

>Not just making half-assed dungeon crawlers like with the Vita
Out of those shovelware titles there will be a Wizardry, EO or old SMT in there.

I wasn't really thinking just gaming. The idea of overlaying video/audio/mapping data etc on the real world seems to have huge potential. In a century I imagine that real time translation of audio and text from other languages will have eliminated the language barrier globally.

>will have eliminated the language barrier globally.
language barrier is the only thing which saves the world from being one completely putrid big shithole

Well strap the fuck in then.

My VR is currently busted and Im waiting on support. I think its just a software problem though.
When are we going to hear more about Budget Cuts?

Fucking globalists

The problem with automatic translation is that natural languages aren't formal languages. There's context and nuance to everything, and polysemy (overlapping meaning) abounds. For their part, computers are not semantic machines, they don't "understand meaning." They're only capable of what programmers are capable of formally modeling, which is why these sorts of promises are never kept.

I imagine teaching everyone English would be be more efficient

PSVR and the Apple headset will resuscitate it and make it a staple in every household.

It's worth it for the porn.

Seriously.

Complex books and personal conversations will likely never work in a universal translator unless it's some kind of super AI that is genuinely conscious and can act as an interpreter in the way a human might. But in terms of "How much does this cost?", "Where is the bus station?" and signage they will be more than capable.

Yes. There are no worthwhile games made for VR.
Anyone who spent money on this shit is an absolute retard that wants nothing more than to stroke their e-peen.
Unless all you do is masturbate to porn all day. Then I guess it's a decent investment.

Budget Cuts alone proves that VR is the future of games. The barrier to entry is too high though.

VR is a pretty hefty investment at the moment, PSVR is the closest thing to a mainstream product.

Just hope theres a Vive 2 or Rift 2 that land more in that price bracket it might see more traction on PC too.

Audio Shield is the sole VR game that I can play over and over. Everything else is just a tech demo or just not good.

VR is possibly on the state realtime 3D graphics where before the playstation, with HTC vive being the analog for the 3DO (best available but still not good enough for mass use and expensive as fuck), Oculus rift being the atari jaguar (cheaper but you get what you pay for) and PSVR being the super FX chip (cheapest of em all, and probably will get the better games, but very, very underpowered)

As long as you just want to replace tourists' phrase books with speech-to-text, I'm pretty sure that technology already exists. But that hardly "eliminate[s] the language barrier globally."
But more than that, what I'm saying is that AI cannot be conscious, and it will never even be a good facsimile. The problem has nothing to do with flops or transistors and everything to do with scientific epistemology. And epistemology... epistemology never changes.

Obviously it would require artificially intelligent machine interpretation and translation.

I like the idea of being able to do shit like overlaying people with a nice coat of fur and tails.

I play H3VR and Vivecraft daily.

I also haven't fapped to 2D porn ever since I got my Vive.

Imagine Pokemon Go but instead of catching mons everywhere like a robotic autist it's a D&D type game where you're out questing with friends.
Could be fun.

Unless you believe that there is a spiritual component to the human existence beyond the physical laws of our world then the notion that the human mind cannot be recreated artificially is ludicrous.

People feel uncomfortable talking to Siri why would they feel comfortable talking to their PlayStation?

People felt uncomfortable sitting next to a black on the bus 80 years ago.

Audiosheild is so fucking good.

Its great, but it's not exactly great as a room scale game, it works just fine standing.

The problem is that the kinds of strategies people use to model systems are not robust enough to handle any degree of complexity. I know you won't believe me because you have faith in progress and the future, but you ought to stop and wonder why the complex systems sciences (e.g., psychology, economics, fluid dynamics) have made virtually no progress over their entire lifetimes.

>implying that has changed

It might be almost completely unfeasible. It might take trillions of years if we're even around by that point. But if it was fundamentally impossible to do then we wouldn't exist.

You can actually.

>Dennou Coil will be real in your life time

I don't think it's exactly spiritual, but there does seem to be processing beyond the brain level. In other words, in a higher dimension somehow. If that makes any sense. I guess you could theoretically recreate this situation with a "quantum computer" but I don't know how you would make the processor on the other side.

...

It's too stupid to argue against it! Ridiculous thought processes, I will consider them no longer...

What I said originally is that software is bounded by the formal modeling capabilities of programmers. Of course complex dynamics exist in the real world, which is the difference between fluid dynamics (the branch of physics) and putting a drop of dye into a glass of water. My claim about AI is that cognition isn't modelable, relative to what it means for someone to model something, so it will never happen. But the existence of something is totally independent of whether there is a model of that thing, and that thing existing in no way implies a realistic model of it will ever be posed.

Kings Field VR From Soft PS4 Neo exclusive is going to save it. Mark my words.

this webm will never not be unsettling fuck vertigo

Of course it was a meme
>Only games out are shitty tech demos
>all ""games"" have you teleporting around because MUH MOTION SICKNESS
>gameplay is just shitty watered down versions of already existing games

Hey man for all we know you could be bang on. But it's a giant leap to make when there's little to suggest it presently.

Meh. The problem is that most PC gamers can't even max their games to begin with, and VR is only fun if you're running 70+ FPS.

I only see VR taking off if games like battlefield support it. Otherwise, it'll remain niche for flight sim folks. It also needs to get cheaper.

Watch Dennou Coil (first few eps) and you'll see

All they need to do is make a good percentage of old games work on it. Programs like that exist but nobody is investing any money into those projects so they either fail on a fundamental level or only a handful of games are actually supported.

I need a VR The World and I need it now.

VR has been a meme since fucking holodecks and we're still decades away from anything close to that.

idk what can i even do with vr besides jack off

porn will literally save it until the hardware becomes better suited for gaming