Overwatch

WE can all agree, that certain heroes desperately need buffs.If YOU pick or got on of those heroes in any game mode, you are basically one teammate down.

Those heroes are
>Mercy, Soldier 76, Bastion, Torbjörn, Ana, Symmetra, Mei, Widowmaker, Pharah and Hanzo

How do we fix them?

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>Mercy
Ability to overheal
>Soldier 76
He is fine as is, you are just a scrub
>Bastion
Replace a tad bit more of his health with armor
>Torbjorn
I don't know what to do with this fuckboi, he is either too reliant on his damn toy or not at all and goes on a rampage with his molten shotgun
>Ana
This hero was a mistake
>Symmetra
Either make her give out 50 hp shields or replace he ultimate with something more useful like 50 hp shields for everyone in the vincinity.
>Widowmaker
Do you know how to aim?
>Pharah
She has power armor, why not replace 50 of her health with 50 armor or even 100.
>Hanzo
This fucker is a tricky one. I think he is fine as is, but the fact that he can spam arrows without charging them and still get headshot damage with said arrows is rather annoying

Ana is almost perfect. She is without a doubt the funnest class in the game.

Two changes I'd like to see though would be:
>Bullets pierce, but still only deal a maximum of 75 damage/healing
>Grenades don't explode on players

in what maps should I avoid picking her?
I'm trying to git gud with her because I like the playstyle but I feel sometimes I can't do much
I avoid her on koth maps, any other locations she's shit at?

Is it me or do you think Lucio needs some sort of damage buff when wall riding?

>Lucio gains x amount of damage boost that lasts y amount of time after riding on the wall uninterrupted for z amount of time

Temple of Anubis. She's not mobile like Widow so avoid that fucking map.

Soldier is shit right now he's just a worse mcree.

I think he should have the ability to spray special graffiti on the map that wears off over time, and it provides a small aoe damage buff when near it.

>Lucio
>needing any buff at all

I prefer 76. Easier to aim with him for basically the same damage.

I smell a lawsuit with Jet Set Radio

Except it's not the same damage if your not shit.

>not killing the mercy

deserved it

Can't hit every shot, man. I don't cheat like the pros do.

I'm sure they'll UNDERSTAND

are you sure it's not your aim buddy?

>tfw attack on Anubis
>Pharah above us and starts to Ult
>"JUSTICE RA-"
>Gets hit with a sleep dart
>Ana: "I think justice needs to take a nap."

I haven't played this game very much yet. What's the difference between armor and health? I just figured armor was a way to over heal.

Armor reduces the damage taken. If it's more than 10, it reduces by 5. If it's less than 10, it reduces by half.

Armor has damage reduction -5 per hit and -50% if it's less than 10 damage if I remember correctly.

I see. Thanks for clearing that up. Might actually play a bit differently knowing that.

Armor heals 50% faster.

What he needs is a change.

As it stands, he's built for low-damage spam while acting as an unkillable heal spot.

That makes him essential on literally every team, with the downside that he's boring and unpleasant to play as or against on the majority of maps. You need at least 1 Lucio per team, but it is boring as shit as a result. No one ever dies if they know what they're doing and don't get caught out (AKA know what they're doing). It makes the game actively worse.

So, if you buffed his damage while nerfing his utility, you could promote a playstyle that's not "walking, talking healbitch", and thus have actually fun games where you're not hearing "LET'S DROP THE BEAT!" every minute and a half.

nope

>Mei
Fucking remove this stupid bitch. Anyone that's a fan of her is a fucking annoying faggot and all her freezing bullshit is completely unfun to play against

She is however, the best solo que defender.
You can literally hold the point alone vs 6 for 20 seconds without any skill

>Ana
>Bad

Lucio's biggest strength isn't even his healing. It's his speed boost.

not him but you're a fucking retard, it's a lot easier to aim with 76 than mccree

why reaperfag has such edgy fanbase?

why do ESLs shitpost here?

I've been thinking about Symmetra maybe being able to repair or reinforce Reinhardt's shield somehow, but I feel like it would make her even more situational because then she would have an ability that only works with him. Maybe make it so she can specifically target his shield with her E to add like 500 more hp to it or reduce the damage it takes? Would make people actually have to coordinate to break it, maybe even give Bastion some more play because of his high DPS?

>He is fine as is, you are just a scrub
He is but the problem is you can have McCree instead of him, so why have Soldier?
>Replace a tad bit more of his health with armor
This doesn't actually solve his issue of being a free target against competent players
> replace he ultimate with something more useful like 50 hp shields for everyone in the vincinity.
Her ultimate is literally the only reason to pick her right now, why would they replace it?
>This fucker is a tricky one

Now this I agree with, and it's a dangerous game. Right now the problem is, in "good hands" he's a worse widowmaker since they both fill the role of high single target damage from a long range.
He does have the shrapnel arrow to shotgun down annoying targets but as a whole they're too similar where it matters, the defining point at the end of the day being whether you want Hanzo's ult. I think it would be smart to give him some way to curve his arrows like in that Dragons video and balance damage around his new ability as testing shows. This would put him into more of a role as a countersniper than a main sniper, an answer to an extremely good widow who's shutting down everyone.

>tfw you get force namechanged

>Mercy
Mercy herself is fine. She'll fall back into normal use once the other heroes are balanced I think. Maybe swap her self heal for a constant heal over time but at a slower rate, which might make her less squishy.

>Soldier 76
Honestly there's nothing wrong with Soldier either. I think we'll see the balance of who's used more swap between him and McCree dependent on who was buffed last. They're so similar that it really comes down to 'which one is best right now', and I can't imagine that will stay as McCree for ever.

>Bastion, Torbjörn, Symmetra, Mei, Widowmaker and Hanzo

Balance them with new heroes. Their loadouts are fine, they just don't seem to fill to fill any vital roles for some reason. A hero that can place down static defenses like walls or cover would go a long way at making them more useful, as they'd be able to lock down areas better. I think straight buffing any of these characters would make them feel cheese as fuck. The specific changes I would make are regarding Hanzo's hitboxes and draw speed so he can fire more arrows that are harder to hit and maybe up Widow's body shot damage so she can compete with McCree better.

>Pharah

Make her more maneuverable. I like where she is now as she's more reliant on the players ability to use cover and keep moving rather than rocket spam, but I think they could play on that better with a longer jetpack charge or reduced cooldown for her boost. I don't think she needs a damage/health buff. Maybe when McCree is nerfed we'll see her picked more.

reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/4ll0gy/psa_the_differences_between_hp_armor_and_shield/

>Healing from other players (Mercy for example) is boosted by 50% for recovering armor.

overwatch.guide/armor-health-shields/

>Contrary to popular belief, armor is no longer healed at a 50% increased rate.

I want to get force namechanged. I changed it to a joke name using the name change thing not knowing you only get to do it once.

>Edgy character
>Edgy fanbase

Not rocket science user

I don't like how even if you shoot Mercy the moment she starts talking, the rez still happens. I can't think of any other ult that goes off even if you are instantly killed. Or at least one that actually still functions.

Well if I knew that I wouldn't have said it.

Well, maybe you should just suck my cute feminine penis then

hehejacob

>Torbjorn
>Useless
4/5 times I play as that little fucboi I get POTG. He's an ultimate spamming machine if you're constantly on the front lines and not hiding behind the turret. LMB headshot is a 1hk for squishy players.

>Symmetra
funny enough she is my most played
i hardly ever see anyone else pick her
a buff would be fucking amazing tho

where my brown sugar famalam @

What's wrong with Ana? She's got huge heals, decent damage, and her ult is very effective on the right targets.

I'm beginning to wonder if I'm playing a different game than everyone else. Soldier has a higher overall damage output than McCree does. McCree only wins out in single damage spiking, since he can do 140 on a headshot. But even if McCree has perfect accuracy, he's gonna be doing 280 a second while Soldier can do 340 under the same circumstances. The only thing I can think of otherwise is range, while both have about the same range before damage dropoff kicks in it's a bit less reliable to hit people from far away on Soldier due to spread, but even then you can miss 20% of your shots on Soldier and still match McCree's DPS.

>You're walking alone on Route 66 and come across THIS
>What do you do?

>mei
have her icewalls gradually freeze enemies that are close to them

These threads are all about the apex of the game. In lower rank games before everyone is basically human aimbots a lot of these heroes see more use. Such as Soldier. I think a problem with him in ultra high level play is his ult is useless since the players have perfect aim anyways.

I find she stops working on capture point and to some extend payload at higher ranks. She is still good on king of the hill maps though.

Give her eggs

Pretty much this.

So it's safe to assume that anytime you see someone pick Genji on defense, they're essentially banking on pulling off some epic meme team wipe potg to be of any aid to the team, right?

Am I missing something? Is there ever a time when its not fucking retarded to go him?

>they're essentially banking on pulling off some epic meme team wipe potg to be of any aid to the team, right?
>to be of any aid to the team
You seem to be under the false impression that Genji players care about whether their team wins or loses.

If they focus on taking out the enemy supports and be a general distraction, it can work too. But yeah, most Genjis aren't that good and just sit in a corner throwing stars at the tank until they have their ult.

>Ana buffs a Reaper who ults
>all 6 of us immediately die

>ana buffs a lucio

Only time I see this happen is when Lucio runs in front of her as she's casting it.

Nope, they are selfish faggots who need to leave. Get used to them

What about Harambe?

Isn't he just worst tank after Dva got buffed?

Buy her goddamn squirrel.

Epic meme faggot

I find his ult useless most of the time because of how easily shut out it is by half the cast, and the fact that it can't get headshots makes it bad against tanks. But the rest of his abilities are so solid that I don't mind not having an ultimate.

Force namechange?

I'm pretty satisfied with Symmetra. Maybe slightly increase the range of her beam

i think her charge up needs to reworked and a turret buff would be nice
i really hate being limited to 6 1hp turrets with a 3 sec cd per drop

I find that the OK part, it's her shield that needs to be buffed up a bit.

Any Genji player that can't switch to a more useful Reaper/Soldier/Mccree when playing defense is basically
1)Genji one trick pony
2)Doesn't care about being useful but getting potg, and after losing will claim he can't carry scrubs

Funnily enough, I see this happen way too often.

Tracer is what fucks with the balance for the shield the most. The other offense characters are in a similar spot.
Back when she gave 50 shield, you had 200hp Tracers zipping around.

Never came across that, wasn't really a problem but I see your point.

>playing on Lijiang Tower
>the shopping district level
>enemy team is all on the right side I'd the level trying to get inside the point
> Ultimate with Winston and just push them all outside the map
> Get Play of the game for that

I wanna see D.Va doing something like that

But is a 200HP Tracer even a problem now? I doubt she's so powerful by herself with just 50 extra HP that teams will start using Symmetra, especially in the current "Everyone uses the exact same team comp" meta

true

>implying d.vas ult isn't a surefire way to get play of the game so long as you know what you're doing with it

Just keep telling people to report your name.

Thats what I do.

>"nano boost is ready" to soldier or mccree or reaper
>press q
>lucio flies in front of my face and takes the buff
>dies speed boosting toward enemy deathball
>complains in chat

>be dva
>ult
>everyone dies
>POTG

wew lad, sure was hard