2016

>2016
>still playing dota

damn the map's had a huge visual update since I last played

memeback pretty much killed the game

>haven't touched that shit in almost 3 years now
>tfw that time of the year and feeling like getting back to it again
Don't ever mess with DotA, kids. If a school friend comes by and offers you some DotA, don't accept, he's not a real friend.

>Enemy team has a Riki
>No gem

Retards got what they deserved

It's a skin that costs like $60.

Valve has been casualizing the game for two years, don't even bother unless you have a full stack to play with.

it's an amazing game but the pacing is off, 45 mins on average for a match is way too much.

i usually enjoy it immensely for the first 20 minutes and then get caught up in all the itemization stuff and it doesn't feel as good anymore. the length of it is why i stopped playing.

It's still a really good game, even better if you have buddies to play with.

>grouped up
>ambushed
>ulti'd
>killed


where exactly is the problem?

>Riki
are you blind

>Riki
Wrong hero buddy

You should try Bloodline Champions or 3x3 LoL.
I always thought LoL was an awful 5x5 game and 3x3 is the way it should be played

>gem

never understood gem faggots

>enemy team has a riki
>buy dust
>bait him so he's close to your tower
>dust him
>kill him with your lane partner
>get level advantage
>dust him again

i got 2-3 kills on rikis before lvl 6

does anyone play that? i'd rather have some tweaks to dota but doubt anyone will bother with it... i'd be more precise but i'm not sure how to get rid of itemization and redesign base

It's just godz buttblasted a chink team got rekt

Except if you're playing against a Riki who isn't retarded, you're not going to bait them into a Dust they don't know they can escape from. Sentries and Gem are far superior against any Riki who isn't complete dogshit.

A long, long time ago people did.

And what are some of the things would you like changed in DotA? The slower-paced gameplay and restrictive item builds(at least before IF started shitting on it) are pretty much what set it apart from other MOBAs for me and what made it my favorite. I can't really see changing that as simple "tweaks".

That's actually pretty good.
Now i want to play dota 2 again, thanks OP.

what exactly changed that much? i didn't play it for 3 years

i know items are cheaper now

>visual update
it ain't free tho.

>mind control has dagger at 18 mins
>initiate first before his teammate
That's a fucking miracle

>restrictive item builds
>Dota
?????????????????????
Don't conflate mathematically-efficient item progression with restriction, m8.

You can build fightan andymage or you can build ricing farming andymage. You can build Euls Aghs SF or right click SF, or a combination of the two. You can even simply tank him up and exploit his ult for the damage and ms reduction and let the rest of your team clean up. You can build drums on Batrider if your team already has plenty of catch, or you can rush Blink after Tranqs. You can play Venge as a carry, a hard support, roaming 4, or as your aura bitch. You can play Spectre as a fightan spectre with Vanguard Diffusal and Manta, or you can play her as a lategame monster.

The variety of playstyle and laning is what sets Dota apart from other assfaggots.

Man that battle view was shitty. Thank god they aren't using it for TI.

I haven't played for some 2 years too, but the last patch I played he had introduced a bunch of retarded items and the orb effect system was so butchered you could pretty much stack everything to your wildest dreams LoL-style. And I heard it only got worse from there.

LMAO Bristle is OP now? Didn't play the game since 2014.

>1 ult
>auto attack auto attack auto attack

this game takes so much mechanical like LoL wew

Good thing I never played this shitty meme game in the first place.

Do you mean Unique Attack Modifiers? Those effects made a good few heroes and items unpickable. Huskar, Clinkz and Ursa for example. Diffusal Blade too.
Memeback is the comeback mechanic introduced in patch 6.83. It was fucking ultra retarded then. Teams would feed deliberately and then 5-man smoke and get one kill and have more gold than if they'd not fed and simply afk farmed. It was amazing.

Memeback was tweaked in subsequent patches but it's still too much.

moshi moshi baito desu

>2016
>still playing anything but HOTS

I just finished a match of dota2

only reason i ever consider not playing it is the community

>but it's still too much.
Not it isn't. Other wise you the game will go back to legit turtle strategies. Fucking up should be punished, especially if your "ahead".

>HOTS
kek
Even Memewatch is a better game than Casuals of the Storm

>playing MOBAs

Something is very wrong with you.

>MOBAs
Retard megadetected

It's ASSFAGGOTS you fucking retard.

Fucking this. I don't care what anyone else says, this game has absolutely none of the tactical depth it used to, and the skill floor for 90% of heroes is Down's Syndrome-tier. Winning Dota in pubs is just a matter of picking more carries than the other team.

that's TI not your 2k mmr swamp, faggot

I have no idea what I am supposed to feel and it makes me feel good.

Except because of Dota's immensely different power spikes, you can pick an early push lineup into literally 5 hard carries and have them be a threat, because one pickoff means they're now equal if not stronger than you with slightly less gold.

The game was balanced around power spikes to a huge degree. It still is, but this huge wrench in the works fucks it all up to the point where it's not fun. You can't win games before 30 minutes unless your team is literally Na'Vi and the enemy team is five Peruvians.

Gems aren't just for invis heroes. They're also good for dewarding.

they got a bm
they really shouldnt have a reason to be short on their map coverage
even if their short on wards

>You can't win games before 30 minutes unless your team is literally Na'Vi and the enemy team is five Peruvians.

Sure thing buddy. I don't think you even play the game. Or if you do, you are actually pretty fucking awful at it.

What's Battle Cup mode?

>but this huge wrench in the works fucks it all up to the point where it's not fun
Well damn, TNC beating OG while being 10-20k gold behind didnt happen I guess.

memeback doesn't punish "fucking up" though, it punishes teams who are trying to end the game. pushing high ground is incredibly difficult in dota 2 and they keep making it even harder. there's no way to push hg without risking 1 or 2 hero deaths and the consequent memeback effects. valve intended for memeback to make games more even, but outside 3k shitter reddit bracket, it just slows games down like crazy and makes every game go like this

fun laning phase -> fun midgame phase -> oops one team is winning, turtle mode activate -> nothing happening for 40 minutes -> ok 1 or 2 retards got bored and overextended, now it's 4v5, go rosh, go t2, go t3, go rax, go other raxes, win game

it's funny because dota was absolutely the best game in its genre for such a long time, now it's the worst. i'd rather play league of legends than dota 2 at this point, at least lol games tend to end fast and have no meaningless "let's sit around waiting for the enemy team to make a move, which they won't" phase that dota 2 has

t. 5.5k player dota when i cared enough to play

why are you pushing high ground without a pick off, a item / level timing, an aegis, or with an actually building hitter?

>those 2 mins stuns
>0 counterplay possible

What an epic game.

The only shocking thing is that such a high-skilled team would be so closely grouped together when they don't know where the enemy team is, but do know the enemy team contains Tidehunter and Disruptor (in other words, stacking up is a literal death sentence)

>a pick off
the entire enemy team is sitting inside their own base while farming in a way that any engagement would be advantageous due to hg
>item / level timing
usually irrelevant unless you're leading by a fucking lightyear. hg pushing is still going to be too risky to be worth it until you farm the entire map for 25 minutes at least
>aegis
helps a bit but not enough. also, roshan respawns too slowly. what are you supposed to do when roshan is dead in this game? nothing, just farm and wait for roshan. it's fucking stupid and pointless
>building hitter
this is exactly the problem, getting a skadi/butterfly/satanic on a juggernaut just so that he can actually auto down a building takes a fuckload of time and in the meantime, everyone else is supposed to just wait for that to happen. you need a huge lead for this to work anyway, otherwise the enemy mid with 1 core item will deal 2000 damage to your hero and kill him

shut up league dummy

I don't know, when a 5.5k player () believes the same thing, using the same logic as I do, maybe you'd realize that there's more to understanding a game than a number next to your name. 80% chance you picked some pubstomper like Slark or TA and killed a bunch of Peruvians, so way to go I guess.

Because you used to be able to do that. This "camping the enemy's base for 30 minutes after you've established a huge advantage" shit is entirely a result of memeback.

Y O U

>any year
>playing ASSFAGGOTS

anyone here 4k player like me or cringy 3k players? Stopped playing it will prob play it again someday I guess. ANYWAYS YOU PROBABLY ALL SUCK.

sound like a pussy who can't handle banter

Riki's typical Diffusal build means that he can purge Dust right off without breaking invis. Gem can also be used for dewarding and is cheaper than Sentries in the long run if you can carry it safely

I honestly think the armor aura was a horrible idea, breaking highground wasnt ever this hard

and Icefrog should just make illusions do 0 building dmg, that constant illusion siege is boring as fuck

tried playing dota
didnt have fun
controls felt bad
went back to league
all was good

Battlerite soon

whats battlerite?

>Icefrog should just simultaneously nerf into oblivion a bunch of heroes

I haven't played for a couple of years now, so maybe you know something I don't, but from what I know, come on, user.

Devs of Bloodline Champions are making a new game without publisher telling them what to do.

Icefrog nerfed it already

They already do only 33% dmg to buildings and its still too strong.

welp

I've still seen even semi-pro teams come back from cancer Naga/Luna/Prophet illusion builds back when they did full damage

I dunno. It's hard to speak with any authority when major changes like that are pushed out fairly regularly. Maybe I'll just take your word for it

>this is what lolbabbies actually think

I still remember a game between alliance and another team. Alliance was losing so hard but with a couple of kills in ONE teamfight loda (naga) got a tons of gold, tons, and they won.

I still remember the feeling that the first ten minutes didnt matter anymore because shit like that.

Its more the meta, there wasnt a huge comeback mechanic back then.

Illusion siege is quite slow, but its super safe, since youre not committing up the highground to give the enemy a 10k gold swing.

I think illusion siege is fine but combined with the comeback mechanics it seems to be the best strategy

>Battlerite is a TEAM ARENA BRAWLER focused on adrenaline-fueled PvP combat. Short and intense matches, stripped from random elements to optimize the action.
So no RNG? As an ex dotard I feel like I should drop this immeditely, but idk

They made highground pushes incredibly hard because it goes hand in hand with comeback mechanics, making most games "exciting to watch" since it's not truly over until the ancient goes boom. Might be better for the viewers but it's terrible for the players.

>Ewan Hawking 1 day ago Is this click to move? (I really hope not.)
>Johan Ilves 1 day ago (edited) Hi Ewan! Nope, good old WASD movement & cursor based aiming. Battlerite is about skill-shots, timing and fast reactions.
So basically LoL 2.0?

This makes sense. The whole memeback thing, even if it's better than it was, sounds like it's doing more harm than good

This mentality only solidifies that I won't return to Dota. I get it's practically a spectator sport now but the game should be fun, first and foremost. It became not fun anymore, and that's why I got out. And that was before memeback. Cripes.

dota 2 is like soccer except the game randomly ends at some point and the team to make the latest goal wins

lol is like soccer except every player has a certain position that they need to stay in for the entire game, and the team that makes the most passes in between itself wins

hots is like soccer, except passing the ball, heading the ball and bicycle kicks are banned, and every 3 minutes, an assault rifle is randomly dropped on the playing field and anyone who picks it up can freely use it

smite is like soccer, except you have to wear binoculars on your head when you play and the playing field looks like total shit

there's my review of mobas

I can't look it up now, if in the prev game the abilities/attacks had a range in damage like x does 10-20 dmg.
But I think no RNG is better, because unlike in Dota or the likes, in this and BLC you had to aim even your basic melee attacks with the cursor, and there were no "click on the target and he gets healed/stunned/damaged/whatever" abilities.
Everything had to be aimed properly. It was fun when you denied heal from the enemy by pushing him away from the incoming heal.

If you ask me it's pretty great, like arena fps games compared to modern ones. It only matters how good you are and not how your loadout is.

wtf ? 60$ ? It's not a compendium gift ?

I complain but it really isnt that bad, most of these arguments are for extremely high level play

Its easy to break highground in pubs, most heores are somewhat viable this patch aswell.

It's part of the compendium. I leveled mine up and got it for free through playing. Other than the 10 bucks I spent for the compendium itself.

I had to play a ton of games though.

Well if you put it that way I'll give it a shot soon and here's hoping it runs decent on toasters, I've been looking for a fun multiplayer game after I pretty much dropped dota and tf2
>try paladins for a few days, nothing amazing but fun
>update 30 hits and game is just bad overwatch clone 2.0 apprently

>paladins is OW clone
OW isnt an assfaggots tho, I thought paladins is

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