4U was better

4U was better.

For one reason and one reason only.
>frame rate

4u did some things better and some things worse.

In the negative column would be:

Shitty story, shitty cinematics, forcing me to talk to too many people, relics.

In the plus column would be G rank.

It's such a disappointment after 4U

>let's remove G rank, and then proceed to pad the shit out of the other ranks with gathering quests, I'm sure that's what the fans want! :^)
>let's lock the framerate at 30fps for no fucking reason

Well, basically these are the only two problems I have with this game, but these are large enough to leave a very bad taste in my mouth.

Frame rate argument is valid
Generations doesn't have Grank because it's an anniversary title, not a main line title faggot.

They're both boring.

What's wrong with gathering quests? 90% of the time monsters show up for the hunting anyway.

>remove g rank
New MH titles are never released with G rank, it's added a year later. And MHG has more content than a non-G mainline release. You'd know this if 4U wasn't your first MH.

Why are all the village quest lines so padded? Hunt a certain monster, then immediately get another quest to hunt the same exact monster.
Every fucking time.

>Shitty story, shitty cinematics, forcing me to talk to too many people

What? The story and cinematics were miles ahead of Generations. All Generations is is talking to people.

>do one quest
>sit through loading screens going to every single location at once to talk to all these people
>go to yukumo last
>talk to everyone
>leave yukumo
>someone new appeared in yukumo because there are for some reason like 10 times as many people here and they can't all be there at once
>go to yukumo
>leave yukumo
>go to yukumo
>leave yukumo
>ok you got everything, do a quest
>repeat

I hate the maps.

>he's still angry about the charge blade "nerf"

>Shitty story, shitty cinematics, forcing me to talk to too many people

Isn't generation worse in all of those?

>In the plus column would be G rank.

G rank just makes high rank redundant. The way it is now is way better.

>tfw no mh4u on vita

Deviant monsters are stupid bullshit. I'll take the frenzied ones any day.

MH4 is the weakest title in the franchise, guild quests and apex are the worst mechanics ever. Anyone who disagrees is either not American (not important) or have never played MH before

Jurassic Frontier is terrible.

This but everything is reversed for me
I liked the story and the cinematics actually made you feel like the monster was a threat. In generations what you get is the monster popping up and going "lol hi".
There is also A LOT more talking in generations with all the requests you have to get from each town.
G rank is retarded and is just an artificial game extender

My point is it was more prevalent in 4u. They have long ass cinematics, you have to talk to people constantly, annoying story missions like the boat, monster have annoying intros, forcing the fucking "ace squad" down my throat, etc etc.

Any story in a monhun is by default a detractor and 4u tried harder to have a real story.

Deviant >>>>>>>>> apex. New moves trump bouncing.

In gen I just mash through some dialogue and go back to killing stuff.

Neither have the Barioth though so 3U is still the best.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I hope story never becomes a significant part of monhun. I just want to get back to town, do my upkeep shit then go grab the next quest.

Freedom Unite is still the best.

Most content and the last game in the series before MonHun entered this casual/easymode phase.

Grinding these retarded deviants, especially if they're asking me to go in fucking naked, is stupid as hell. Most of them aren't even that rewarding.

But by far my favorite thing about generations is the removal of that retarded exploration mission bullshit and hoping you get a good piece of armor/weapon. An RNG nightmare that makes all charming hunting from before look like a walk in the park.

t. Sonygger

Lol kys
Generations has more dialogue and a higher word count than 4U despite no story. You're a fucking retard.

This. The only story I think is necessary is you're a hunter, you hunt monsters, and the flagship is the looming threat.
The story in MH3 and Freedom Unite are perfect. They don't hit you over the head with it too much. You're just a hunter trying to do your job.

RNG gear has no place in monster hunter, I'm even a little on the fence about talismans but at least they're not a huge deal.

It's always been about killing a monster to make shit out of it, not grinding random shit to hope for drops, this isn't diablo.

I can mash through it all, 4u has a bunch of shitty cinematics or times when I have to talk to the entire ace squad before I'm allowed to go do the next quest.

Mashing through a villager request is less annoying than talking to everyone in town once before I can go out again, this isn't fucking dragon quest.

Fixing broken hitboxes isn't easymode, it's making the game feel like less bullshit.

It's not about the G rank retards, I know only every other game gets that, it's just that they had to pad the fuck out of the other ranks with gathering quests out of the ass, that's what pisses me off. It's just incredibly lazy.

It has more large monster quests than 4u last I checked. They could add 4000 gathering quests, just don't do them. I've been ignoring them since 2004 or whenever 1 came out.

4U has a better quest progression, especially early game, better monster introductions, an ok little story which went a long way in making me want to play the singleplayer stuff, and G-rank. On the downside was Guild Quests and Apex monsters. GQ's were an optional addition on top of G-rank so it's hard to really hate them, but eventually it felt like that was all anyone was doing, so getting people for regular hunts was a little more difficult. Apex and Wystones were trash.

Generations has a lot of nice convenience features sprinkled throughout, and Prowlers are a nice addition, but I don't like the food system as much, and they managed to REMOVE a convenience feature in the form of mass cooking steaks in 4U, or at least make it worse. No G-rank, but I haven't gotten into Deviants yet, so I won't call that a negative. It might be the case that fighting Deviants is a lot better than 4U's Apex infested G-rank. The early game in Generations is real bad, though.

You weren't forced to talk to everybody every single time there was a speechbubble in 4U. The story in 4U was exactly as ignorable as the bloated nothing in Generations, the only exception would be the like, two quests I can think of where the story affected the quest, which were Gore Magala on the boat and Gore Magala in the everwood. The monster introductions were fucking miles better than Generations, not one was longer than a minute and they obviously only played once.

So many of those quests are just, "hunt two of this thing". You hunted that monster? Okay, immediately, hunt it again. Not capture, not specifically, just beat it up in a different location, immediately. Then fight two of them. You might also get a hunt-a-thon with this monster right afterwards.

Monster introductions were fucking awful because if you played online some cunt would always refuse to skip shit like the dalamadur or gog intro.

They're unnecessary and add nothing.

4u was good, but the added emphasis on story and cutscenes was a negative to me and I hope gen is an indication they're dropping that shit.

Fuck 4U. I'm so glad that Wystone and Apex system is gone.

Well, I think they're good and add a lot. Generations' stupid little poses with arial text and that obnoxious little sound that plays makes me want to vomit. I desperately hope you don't get what you want.

>play 4u
>long cutscene with the monster doing stuff
>play gen
>quick little showing of monster with their name
sorry user i just want to get to the hunt quicker

Same to you. Though I would cut out even the gen introductions to be honest. Just walk in and kill the monster.

Did I make a mistake starting with Generations then? Are the differences noticeable for a guy who's never played Creature Smasher before?

Yeah, I'm not going to miss apex monsters or the guild quest system, though I still enjoyed 4u overall. Generations is better, though.

>Dalamashit
>wystones
>guild quests
>frenzied everything
>OP as fuck insect glaive and charged blade
>GRAVIOS
>BLACK GRAVIOS
I'm glad it's over.

Ehh, when it comes to how weapons and online ranking works, yes. Outside of that, not that much. It's just that mounting was a new mechanic in MH4U and a lot of the maps did a really good job on introducing vertical gameplay and design. MHXG is fine, but mounting is toned done thanks to Aerial hunter arts, and weapon versatility went down thanks to the segmenting certain moves for certain arts.

>Shitty story
I wonder if you actually read what every NPC says. 4U has the best dialog and "story" (every MH barely has one that matters) I'v seen in the series. More so the dialogue.

The Egg Hunt quests are all about the Egg Mafia hiring you to be a Wyvern Hitman, with italian cliche phrases and unexpected characters being part of the Egg Mafia. It's fucking hilarious.


Also the running gag that even though your Hunter does amazing things, nobody recognizes him/her because GuildQT drew your public propaganda "poster" with huge eyebrows, thus nobody believes it's you.

And something I found pretty cool was that an apparent random farmer in Cathar turns out to be the chosen Elder. Was pretty cool

Given infinite skill, what weapon has the greatest potential for damage?

I'm not fond of the hunter art system, it seems almost unnecessary and doesn't really add much. Same with hunting styles.

>>GRAVIOS
>>BLACK GRAVIOS
I want blademaster shitters to leave and never come back

To be clear I consider a good monhun story none and a shitty monhun story any.

I read the dialogue sometimes but mostly I just mash through it or skim it. It was a "shitty" story because it was more present than in the past.

Normally you're just in a village and you take quests from the counter and that's it. But in this one you're forced to talk to the shitty caravan and solve their shitty problems etc.

Oh, so you're retarded? Gotcha.

Blademaster is default and is what the game is designed for. You're an abberation and an abomination.

I don't think a gunner has ever been on the cover art. Or at least not the centrepiece.

Greatsword, Dual Blades, and Insect Glaive

Eh, I feel the same. MHXG feels like a "best of" compilation that takes players back to old MH games, but doesn't really introduce anything super-new.

>let's lock the framerate at 30fps for no fucking reason
It's even worse. They fucked the framerate to add animu sparkles and "whish" effects to your weapon swings.

It has more individual monsters than 4u as well

>To be clear I consider a good monhun story none and a shitty monhun story any.
Oh, so you have no idea what you're talking about.

Just say you prefer to have no story, not that having one makes it a bad story.

Nah. Monhun hasn't had a story before and I don't want it to have one now. They can cram the story into that shitty rpg spin off if they want.

It was shitty because it was front stage instead of a supporting character.

3U is still the superior game, but 4U was great.

>GUNNERS
NO WONDER YOUR OPINIONS ARE SHIT!

are you serious?

MHG has no fucking grank?

what the shit

It's not healthy to be that autistic user.

>On the downside was Guild Quests and Apex monsters
>Apex and Wystones were trash

shitter talk

Freedom Unite is better.

They locked it at 30fps to make it look better, which is bullshit because all 3DS games look like shit anyways, might as well make the sacrifices to get 60fps.

Look at any of the covers with only one dude, it's never a gunner. Gen has a tiny gunner in the background with two BM and a felyne in front.

...

sadly this is true.
Man, I just whished they'd get rid of the stupid singleplayer, set up a list and let me do one quest after another in multiplayer

I know. But that's only if you don't count subspecies, and the monster distribution is still fucked. 4U has some new early-game monsters to hunt and spread everything around nicely. The whole earlygame of Generations is Great Maccao, Velocidrome, Iodome, Gendrome, Cephalodrome, Bulldrome, and, like, Arzuros. Malfestio isn't until the third urgent, and he's earliest new monster. The only "early" new monster, for that matter.

>Nah. Monhun hasn't had a story before and I don't want it to have one now.
U wot m8

You really do mash through it all huh. Anything prior to P3rd was the same "Big Wyvern here, pls help hunter" story.

P3rd was about Yukumo's economy to going to absolute shit because of Zinogre.

3U was about the Elder's life long beef with a Lagiacrus, who was suspected to be the culprit of earthquakes and fishing boat attacks. Turns out it was Caedeus all along.

It's always had a story.

>t was shitty because it was front stage
It very much wasn't. You could completely mash through it and it wouldn't even matter. And it seems you did so. The difference is that it had most main quests follow the events of the previous one, giving a sense continuity.

So I'm clearly wrong at this point, but I'll post two cop out answers and you choose the one that sounds best.

"Wow they had to cover up the shitty coward weapon with the title"

"I said "gunner" not bow you idiot."

Shit mechanics:
>mounting
>hunting styles/arts
>wystones
>playable cats

I say Velocidrom, Gendrome, and Iodrome should forever be banished and replaced with their more interesting counterparts, Great Jaggi, Baggi, and Wroggi.

>New players will never get to experience the Ascended Being known as Qurupeco.

Why did the best creature not return in Beast Killer X Generations?

>4u

I agree, no deviant great jaggi

I dont think 4u did anything right

Every single monster in 4u sucks barring Shagura, but even his fight becomes an rng shitfest when guild quest get involved. Its obvious they tried to pull a FU but failed miserably

Every single 4u map is awful. Ledges and slops plauge the game and take away from actually fucking fighting the god damned monsters and force you to fight the awful terrain instead

The weapon balance is the worst the series has ever seen. Weapons like hammer, lance, sns, db, gl, ls and sa made completely outclassed by the CB and IG alone.

The skill distribution. Making handicraft so readily availible pretty much killed the game single handedly.

The worst online community ever in a mh game. French frogs are the majority and they will triple cart on every fucking quest you undertake. Dont even bother playing with other people in 4u, its not worth the frustration of 100 failed hunts just to find one competent american among the sea of shit that is french and germans.

Its a g rank game so low rank and high rank are nuetered and just pointless filler

GQ are the worst thing to ever exist in mh. A lazy attempt to add an mmo tier gambling addiction to the game. Fucking horrible especially apex monsters. I dont even need to explain why apex is so damn bad.

The music even fucking sucks outside of shaggys theme. Like holy shit what a horrible game

Every one I played up to 4u was the story of a dude killing monsters. 4u tried to make me care about a dink with a feather in his hat and his troupe of do nothings.

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>"I said "gunner" not bow you idiot."

i like this one.

>A lot of the game is copypaste
>The entire focus of the game is throwbacks
>Despite spending resources on pressing copy and then paste, don't even bother to do anything with the theme. No cute story referencing the other hunters from previous games, nothing.

Why did they even bother making a game like this if they weren't going to bother doing anything with the throwback theme? Even doing something like making the online town Minegardge would've made people cum buckets.

underrated post

Gently poking the couple of places your weapon won't bounce off of until you've got the Drive Wystone ready, then going to town on the monster for one minute before having to wait again was tedious.

Bane?

>A lot of the game is copypaste
Other than yukomo hotspring

Why?

Or you could try not being a shitter and aim your attacks.

4U is still about a dude killing monsters. And it did try to make you care about the Caravaneer's Caravan with a Capital C, I never said otherwise. And also the other hunter party with the stuck up commander and delicious brown gunner.

The fact is that MH has always had a story.

I've played over 600h of 4U and could probably play more without feeling burned out

I've played maybe 120h of Generations and feel like I've finished the game already

>no story
>all villages unlocked gives the game no direction
>no monster cutscenes means the monsters have no personality
>features removed for no reason
>no local village map means you can't see what NPC wants to talk to you
>can't teleport to house from map
>no steak delivery quest
>have to spend tens of thousands of caravan points on kelbi horns to advance days
>zenny in criminally short supply unless cheesing coal quest
>more quests, but they're a million terrible gathering quests
>capped 30fps
>low FoV
>in-game messages block almost the entire middle of the screen when you're tryng to fight a monster
>NO G RANK
>the game stopping at HR means that the armour sets you can build are incredibly limited
>can barely clown suit
>game tries to railroad you into building full sets with the deviant
>deviant skills are mostly terrible and lock you into playing a specific weapon to be effective
>weapons have little to no slots
>have to rely on finding a god tier charm and R series armour to be able to have more than 3 skills active at once
>no sub species
>hyper monsters aren't a good replacement

Once you build a good set of HR armour you've basically finished the game. I don't feel like MHG hits that feeling of "just one more hunt" because there's nothing really to grind for. Deviants are a poor replacement for an entire third of a missing game.

Say what you want about relic hunting but I enjoyed the hook of trying to find that one 'perfect' weapon or piece of armour that would make an incredible set or just built it because it looked awesome.

And it worked. I've seen a bunch of people who went from 4u, to gen, complain about the shitty characters and story, only perking up when the 4u characters finally showed up in the villages.

Yeah, I said that. Being able to only attack a small percentage of the monster at a time for a length of time is absolute shit, and you're subhuman for defending it. Some weapons don't even have easy access to attacks that won't swing so wide that they bounce off of some other apex horseshit that's in the way.

I guess my point is that it showed signs of increasing the emphasis of the story and that's not the direction I want to series to take. Being the selfish dick I am I hope it continues to cater to me.

If you enjoy the story in the games I'm happy for you, maybe I'll try to slow my roll a bit and read some of the text.

>He likes retarded mechanics.

This. Learning to fight Apex monsters never got more fun, and I was pretty much approaching all of them with surgical precision in my crit draw GS set

>people LIKED 4us ass attempt at making mh more story focused

Like hot damn it was shit. Fucking 5 minutes of dialouge after every god damned quest, and thats if you just skipped everything. They focus so much on these useless, one note characters that just fail time after time after time again.

I got a little nostalgia bump from Kokoto Pokke and Yukumo, but that was more just the memories of the games, not the characters in the towns.

>I'm a dyslexic with anger issues and no patience, so everyone else must be too.

I bet you're a hammer player too. :^)

>What if we made Apex monsters but took out the Wystones?

>No cute story referencing the other hunters from previous games

fucking this

>be FUfag
>finally go to pokke
>they dont tell you the story of the legendary hunter that killed the ukanlos and saved the village

Nah, I feel more in tune with Generations than with 4U and all the unnecessary bullshit going on.

4U and Generations suffer from the same thing, a shit roster of monsters for the most part.

Most Gen1 monsters need to just stay in the past because they're shit and not fun to fight. They either need to be completely overhauled or left in the past.

I'm HR 100+ in guild and I have no problems with gathering quests...Most of them is optional. I'm almost done with all the village quests for the Haya feather helm and I don't even find the gathering quests that annoying in comparison to the older games.

Frame rate is worst though.

MHGen has a much better pacing than MH4U in my opinion. In MH4U I always feel like I had to rush to g-rank. I also like the fact that a lot more weapons are viable if you aren't a speed runner.

>Man, I just whished they'd get rid of the stupid singleplayer

Fuck off crutch fag, I would like to be able to get parts without worrying about shittiers holding me back

3U was better

Which one should I, a new player, buy?
I've played the demo for each and loved them.