WHY THE FUCK WAS THIS ALLOWED!?

WHY THE FUCK WAS THIS ALLOWED!?

YOU MAKE SOME STUPID FUCKING SHIT GAME THAT'S A GIANT MIDDLE FINGER TO ANYONE WHO HAS ACTUALLY BEEN A FAN OF THIS FRANCHISE FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS, THEN YOU SUDDENLY MAKE A GREAT GAME THAT IMPROVES UPON PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING, THEN YOU MANAGE TO TAKE A HUGE SHIT ON THAT TOO AND MAKE SOMETHING POSSIBLY EVEN WORSE THAN THE FIRST ONE!

HOW COULD ANYONE LIKE THIS SHIT GAME IT'S A GIANT MIDDLE FINGER TO ANY PERSON WHO ACTUALLY SOMEHOW LIKED FF13!

XIII-2 is worse than XIII at everything except gameplay mechanics though.

How?
The story and characters are both clearly better, I don't even remember who the villain of the first game was or what he was doing.

BUMP FOR ANGER

I liked 13-2 more than 13

pirated 13-3 but couldn't stand it,
also fuck timers, I want to chill and do things at my pace. Dropped it.

>I don't even remember who the villain of the first game was or what he was doing.
well that one priest or god or well, thing.
and he tried to do something, I guess.

Lightning's creator had an extreme waifu complex and tried shoehorning her into everything and forcing people to like her

Worst protagonist in FF history

But that's not true
>no synth skills
>needlessly complicated new crystarium system
>shitty ultimate moves that doesn't make use of the stagger system
The only thing they added that was great was wide or single attacks for commandos.

I agree and I 100% them all. FF13 is the most solid game, and LR should have just been Valkyrie Profile 3 instead of asking Tri-Ace to reskin their game with Lightning.

SE should have just made LR into a novel or do it 10 years later. After all they had no problem doing it with FFX, FF7 and FF4.

Lightning Returns was the closest we got to a new Valkyrie Profile in a long time. That is the only reason I can't hate it.

Still objectively better than X.

I tried the 10 hour challenge on the original XIII, to see if it got any better after investing any time into it.
It didn't. I was going to try to last until gran pulse, but the dull combat and constant forced switching of the main character and party members got to me in a way I didn't think a final fantasy game could possibly get to me.

ff6 > ALL

CELES RULES

LIGHTNING DROOLS

That second paragraph could be applied to VI as well. You're trash

This guy knows whats up

FFX was a good RPG, it just had a half-baked story with awful designs and settings, and the most annoying main character of the franchise.

>thinking FemCecil was better than actual Cecil
Come on now, user

Original comment still stands then. Comparing battle systems doesn't really make sense between XIII and X since its a fundamental different of ATB vs TB

Sorry he wasn't angsty enough for you, user.

wasn't the ff13 trilogy made because of vanilla 14 being a disaster.

VI managed to pull that off because the plot was engaging and the gameplay was enjoyable. In XIII, it just felt like artificial difficulty for the sake of stopping you from leveling characters too fast.

Yeah, and it enabled a madman to pursue his dream. and I thank him everyday for it

Game companies spend a lot of money making the engine and assets for a game.

When they made XIII-2 they literally just reused all the art and engine and made a new story and some gameplay tweaks. It was a way to make bonus income off of the investment they put in to the engine.

I think FFXIV and FFXV are both on that engine but they may be heavily modified by this point.

FFXIII is fun.
FFXIII-2 is better

I bought FFXIII-3 but probably wont play it until this fall. But I like the premise.

13 was complete garbage in all sense. None of the games were good. You are a fucking tool and should kill yourself if you think 13 is worth speaking of ever again.

>The story and characters are both clearly better,
Except for the magically appearing clothing and time travel statues sitting around everywhere that no one notices and Sephiroth 2 as the villain

He was angsty, he just wasn't as mopey as cloud or squall. It was more of an angry, selfish angst.

...

Instead Teedus failed to get anything done whereas Squall lead an army of teenage mercenaries around the world and Cloud fucked bitches and collapsed company-run governments

I'll take angst over pure, blind stupidity anyday. Tidus just didn't know how to properly interact with anyone or react to many things in a civilized manner. If he wasn't rambling about his personal life or endangering everyone's lives, he was awkwardly fumbling through conversation with pretty girls or making loud, annoying noises.

Just beat FF2 the other day, it has a lot of problems, but overall I had a good time for the most part. There is nothing more satisfying than coming back to Fynn and ass raping pic related later in the game.

>mfw I haven't played a Final Fantasy since XII

Even then the main thing I liked was the monster hunting which was completely optional. The main story was shit and it was basically just a single player MMO.

How did they fuck up this series so much?

I'm currently on Chapter 13 of FFXIII and I feel like the battle system could have been improved by adding three small settings:
- An option to keep the camera fixed.
- An option to turn off the Paradigm Shift animation that happens every battle.
- The option to turn on and off which abilities you want the AI to use during battle.

I hate how the camera keeps moving around during battle, I hate how every single battle I have to watch the first Paradigm Shift transformation. and I hate even more that FFXII had a gambit system where you could tell your characters what you wanted them to do, what abilities they could use and which don't.
I haven't played the other two, maybe I will after finishing all the missions.

But that would impede on Toriyama's vision user!

14 uses a modified version of Crystal Tools and 15 uses it's own engine.

>still caring about FF
Literally the most boring of what the genre has to offer

Get some taste, fucko

Lightning Returns is great though and 13-2 was p decent

XIII-2 > LR > XIII

Lightning was better in XIII though

Combat-wise, LR was cool but the whole time limit garbage is utter shit. You couldn't even explore at your own pace.

But user, Lightning Returns is actually really good.

Stop being so mad at video games man. It's really cringey.

The only things in the trilogy that weren't absolutely awful were Sazh, Caius, and Noel
And they nearly ruined Caius by making him look like a huge faggot, and Noel by making him look like Sora

XIII didn't have tabechau nyan.