Remake game

>remake game
>with less content than the original
Why the fuck is this allowed? If Nintendo had released Ocarina of Time 3DS with two fewer dungeons and one less weapon, people would have raised hell.

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Instead, Nintendo releases Twilight Princess with no improvements besides higher textures, directly from the previous generation, and sells it for, what, 60$? (I could be wrong)

Here we have Insomniac taking a game from PS2, completely reworking it, making the graphics top-fucking-notch, then selling it for 40$ at launch.
Didn't they change the weapons up, too? Never played the original.

Because it added in other new shit and redid all the assets for everything but the guns from the ground up.

And it was sold for $40 at launch

When they rereleased Metroid Prime on the Wii (that one wasn't even a remake, it was a port), they got rid of several graphical effects, including water effects, and nobody gave a shit. The average consumer is a mindless drone who will happily gobble up whatever the industry lazily shits out.

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Ratchet & Clank collection was also $40 at launch, and included the full Ratchet & Clank experience, along with the full versions of the two sequels.

It's a tie-in game for the movie that uses the fact that the movie is a retelling of the first as an excuse to remake a good chunk of the original.

there's a reason why the tagline is "The game based on the movie based on the game" and not "The game based on the game"

>can't make the barrel of Samus' blaster red hot from rapid firing anymore

Is this game 30 bucks worth ?

definitely

Yes, and they were all also several years old and were barebones ports. Your point?

Do you get mad at all modern games for releasing at $60 just because you can buy an assload of late 90s/early 00s CRPGs for that much and get a few hundred more hours of playtime?

...not

>Third installment came out in 2004
Selling near 10 year old games for less than $15 each

>it's ok when there is less content when it's Sony!
Ok.

>put in Mr Zurkon despite him not being in the original
>instead of evolving into an even better version than before, he evolves into Zurkon and Zurkon Jr, making him literally inferior to the previous version which also had Mrs Zurkon

I don't give a shit if it was because she was a boss. There's no reason for this shit.

Some people do actually.

>When it's God of War, Uncharted or the Last of Us, it's ok.
>When Nintendo does it, it's bad
I see.

>God of War
3 released for fairly cheap
>Uncharted
The ports also ran at 60fps, improving the gameplay, and included additional non-texture upgrades like AA. There were also three of them.
>The last of us
60fps, all DLC bundled in, and within a fairly reasonable timeframe of the original release.

Completely incomparable to the twilight princess jewry with its only new piece of content being tied to physical fucking dlc

>It's literally ok when Sony does it
I see.

>remake game
>make it look worse
>charge 60 dollars for it

how did nintendo get away with it?

>make it look worse
>piiU
I see the Sony Defence Force is on full damage control.

Because Sony does it better, correct.

It looks unarguably worse.

>made you pay full price of game in 2013
>NEVER EVER COMING TO PS4
>made you pay full price of game in 2014
>But the cancerous DLC comes with it lol!
Ok.

>unarguably
I don't think you know what this word means.

why do the heart containers look stretched like that?

>uncharted
three games for the price of one versus one game for the price of one THAT WAS RELEASED THREE GENERATIONS IN A ROW
>the last of us
60fps with DLC
>god of war
i dunno how much it launched for. i don't mind this one since i never had a ps3, but

>twilight princess
exact same game, only new content is physical DLC via amiibo, exact same game as twilight princess without any significant upgrade in graphics

It's essentially getting a feel for how popular the franchise is. Put out a great but somewhat short game for 2/3 of retail price, see how it does, if it does well, make a full game for full price.

It'll happen, it sold far too well not to get another one. I for one voted with my wallet, played 3 times, got the plat. Even my girlfriend who's generally useless with games picked it up and enjoyed it.

How does it look worse at all? Your cherrypicked pre-release screenshot isn't saying much.

>with DLC
>i don't mind this one since i never had a ps3
It's ok when Sony does it.

>it l-l-looks better i swear
literally getting cucked

Welcome to NeoGA/v/

>Never ever coming to PS4

Nobody never ever said that you special

I want nintenbabbies to leave

fucking hate that forced meme weapon

TLoU remastered made the game actually playable.

Try playing an hour of remastered and then turning the 30fps lock on in the options. It's fucking atrocious.

>I never had a ps3
But why? The console has so many great exclusives that it's stupid not to own one.

>literally getting cucked
>having to pay for The Last of Us again
>Having to listen to Drake's Wife Son SJW shit
No, no we're not.

Only issue is content and the PS3 era weapons and humour being weaker.
It plays decently. Insomniac hasn't lost really classic feel of games despite it being 7 years since a crack in time.
It's a full remake than port and it was sold cheap. As a movie tie in, it's a good one.

i grew up nintendo / PC
>tfw dad promised to buy me PS3 after divorce if i came to stay with him
>never did because games were too expensive

>Insomniac hasn't lost really classic feel of games despite it being 7 years since a crack in time.
The thing is that Insomniac actually got devs who left the team a few years ago that worked on the classic R&C games to come back to work on this
Most of the team isn't the same people who made the original games

>less planets
>most guns are shit and reused from the future series
>only brought back to weapons from the original
>one of them is a reskin and isn't even the original weapon

>nintoddlers paid 60 dollars for a downgrade

J U S T

Get one now then. Better time than ever since the games are dirt cheap right now.

Ocarina of Time 3DS was a remaster tho?

Was the story for the new RnC actually good compared to the original?

I remember them saying that they needed to reboot the story so it would fall in line with the Future series but I didn't feel like it did at all.

The difficulty was on point even though Nefarious was easy as piss.

No it wasn't

>he pays a mandatory online fee yearly to defend a company that gave them Drake's Wife's Daughter IV

I plan to sooner or later for JRPGs and Lollipop Chainsaw.
>spoiled by 1080p
>need to catch up with most of the major releases of the last 3 years

Furi alone made my 6 months worth it, and I enjoyed most of the other games. Almost got a plat on Tabletop Racing.

And that's saying nothing of all the ps3 / vita games.

b-but muh bloom effects

You mean """Free""" games right?

This.

The fact that we even got a remake at all at that quality for $40 who actually has the audacity to complain about that?

Such an excellent game

Because it's a shitty Sony game no one gives a fuck about.

That's why no one cares and that's why they got away with whatever they got away with, and most importantly that is why they will continue to fuck you over.

I'm not even defending it, I'm just letting you know why it's allowed.

Because they can do it unopposed because the majority of people who play games are lazy, cowardly and complacent.

No one will do anything about this whatsoever.

>Nintendrone are comparing the price of 3 games to 1 game

Dont worry about the 1080p, a lot of games look fine at 720p. I recently got a PS3 and from eternal sonata to vesperia to ni no kuni to graces its been so much fkn fun. Not to mention Catherine, demon souls, MGS4, sly cooperm Yakuza 4 and 5, Nier even, there's so many games.

>TLOU is 3 games
>only Nintendrones can call bullshit on Sony
>Sonyggers calling anyone embarrasing

I loved Nefarious in 3 and in Crack of Time he was on point. But them bringing him back really felt like they were just shoehorning him in for no reason.

Plus they fucked up the backstory of a 26 year old Qwark bullying one kid in highschool so much he turned into a supervillain and then making him fall into machinery to bring him to how he was in 3.

And then they had him kill off Drek who was piss compared to his original version who was actually kind of menacing.

I'm going to go replay it and visit some planets again right now, the game is so much fun

>yfw the game managed to outperform the movie

>Never played the original.
Why would you post in a thread about criticising a remake if you haven't even played the original?

the world just isnt ready yet for vidya kino

Its almost non recognizable from the original. Technically speaking it is a new fully realize standalone game and for $40 it's a steal, even now you can pick it up for $30 which is criminal. Insomniac deserves more 2bh

>b-but Nintendo

$40 was a fair price when it came out given how much content they removed compared to the original, and $30 remains just a plain fair price.

>they used the same generic orchestral crap they've been using since ToD instead of remixing the fantastic funky beats of the original

How about instead of wasting your time on the shitty dreamworks artstyle you make Ratchet not look like he's swallowing wallnuts all the time as he stares at fucking nothing when talking to people?

>Nintendo fans jump into thread with the sole intention of shitposting a game they've never played and know nothing about

Get instantly BTFO within the first two posts
>b-b-b-but Nintendo,
they say

Content wasn't removed, it literally just wasn't developed. This built this from the ground up. What happened was they miss managed their budget and the movie put a burden on game development. What we got was fair for $40.

Honestly. I would rather they just ported 1, 2, 3, and Deadlocked to pc than make an okay game forced to follow the story of that garbage movie.

>>they used the same generic orchestral crap they've been using since ToD instead of remixing the fantastic funky beats of the original
biggest missed opportunity of the whole game. Couldn't even remix Kerwan's theme.

>comparing a port to a remake form the ground up

>who cares if they took away 1/3rd of the content, ruined the art direction, and took cutscenes from the movie and put them in the game nintendo did something else that was bad too.
Both are fucking trash but at the very least they didn't remove content

>What we got was fair for $40.
We agree on that. The price was not too much to be a negative, and not too little to be a bargain.
The only good thing that I can say about the price is that it might set an example for developers to make cheaper, more experimental games. Though if you take a look at trash like Nu Male's Sky that may not be the case.

Why are nintencucks such hateful assholes?

>no David for composer
I'm dead inside.

It was disappointing imo

>it's ok to remove content the game is prettier now
What the fuck happened to Sup Forums?

The gameplay is greatly improved and level designs are altered. It's a remake not a port.

The funny thing is that the content planet wise is more than the shitty movie.

It's a movie tie-in game.

All they did was add strafing. A remake should have as much content or more than the original not less

Nu male sky should have been $40 tops, it would've sold more and received a much better reception. I'd like to think it was Seans arrogance that led to the pricing but considering The Order's failure and the success of Ratchet, Sony should have known better if they had any say in it.

I think Nintendo fans kind of expected Nintendo to evolve to the point where their first party studios would be cranking out platformers like this for all their favorite mascots but Nintendo didnt embrace tech or something.

Nothing was removed, no content was cut, it simply wasnt developed

You listed pretty much all my main complaints. Don't forget they also completely changed the backstory of a villain who isn't supposed to be around until the third game and had him kill the original bad guy who was turned into a joke.

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I disagree. When the remake is significantly cheaper and a lot more polished, you can get away with having a little less content.

>B-both are t-trash!
Fuck off, nintenbabby.

>no arena

How do we go from this...

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You two are forgetting one very impotent thing
>original game was 60 fps
>remake is 30

>no Gemlik or Gorda City
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What happened if they independently remade the game without movie shit? Would there be more content? Would Fixman fuck it up still plot wise?
I dunno, remake stands well on its own, but outside of gameplay, original still did a lot of elements better that I would prefer it.

1 didn't have an arena.

At least it didn't drop into the teens like Nexus

I think the big thing people are forgetting is that this wasn't a remake of the first game, it was a game based off the MOVIE.

Thats where many of these complaints arise from, if they were going to make a straight up remake of the first, they couldve, but instead they took the plot points from the movie and shoe horned in many of the elements from the first game. Ironically, the fact that they decided to tie the game so closely to the movie is really the only source of complaints because it really is a great game, it just isn't a 100% pure remake, which would've made it better.

Okay I paid $10 AUD for 6 games

I hated how Ratchet became this goody two shoes where in the original game he was a sassy sarcastic ass and I loved every minute of him.

That and 30 FPS was awful for the game.

Fixman's original script was supposedly closer to the original than the movie ended up being.

The success of the remake will probably mean that Sony will actually give the next Ratchet an actual budget.

Some of the levels which weren't remade were fantastic and it's a same to see them gone. The remake was too plastic and artificial. NPCs were well animated and memorable in the original, but they're completely uncanny in the remake. Also, no killer Bergeaud soundtrack.

To this?

I just watched this movie, I was a boring mess.

1 also didn't have
>dr nefarious
>the galactic rangers
> the bouncer
>the sheepinator
>weapons from the future series
>generic orchestral music
What's your point?

Also ruined Ratchet and Clank personality.
Clank is so fucking useless he might as well not be there

game has like 80% of the scenes from the movie

you wasted your money

pixar really ruined 3d animated films. Now everyone is trying to copy their style to get more ticket sales