Do consoles really hold PC graphics back?

Do consoles really hold PC graphics back?

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Half life 2

What you don't see:
>4k
>144hz
>Antialaising
>Unfucked FOV
>Mods
Etc

So yeah

No. Games can only made as big as they are because of consoles being a large market. They wouldn't have made Witcher 3 if not for the console market.

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>They wouldn't have made Witcher 3 if not for the console market.
That's like saying they wouldn't have made Witcher 1 amd 2 if not for the console market.

Oh wait.

youtube.com/watch?v=19Wpp_HQ6Dg

Either 3 was L I T E R A L L Y downgraded and postponed for 6 months because of how garbage current gen consoles turned out to be.

Witcher 1 was gonna get a port. After seeing how much the rerelease of 2 sold on console, there was an incentive to make a third game. I think 2 was also heavily pirated but that might have been the first game.
There was also issues getting the older build running at all with the scope of the game. PC couldn't handle it either.

not really. you could as well say that people who don't have 2000$ pc are holding pc graphics back.

spend millions extra to really make those graphics the most über thing. then no one buys your game because no one can run it and it's probably just bad game because most of the effort went to graphics. great plan.

>PC couldn't handle it
>Actually posting this
Not only did they show footage of it running, PC scales anyway and effects can be turned off.
PC performance was never an issue.
You're fucking retarded.

>After seeing how much the rerelease of 2 sold on console, there was an incentive to make a third game.
lol

Neither were heavily pirated, they both sold great on PC.

>There was also issues getting the older build running at all with the scope of the game. PC couldn't handle it either.
Only a retard would believe this.

Crysis was one of the best selling PC games of all time, same with Doom 3 and Half Life 2, despite all those games having reputations for being GPU melter. Devs underestimate how many people will upgrade hardware for a graphically-demanding PC game, there arguably hasn't been a great GPU-seller in a while.

What does that have to do with anything?
>Picture from 2004
Talking about modern shit

>Not only did they show footage of it running
Yeah, man. Just like Dark Souls 2 and Watch Dogs ran at E3.
>PC scales anyway and effects can be turned off.
That's the issue. The full game probably wouldn't have scaled well unless you put everything on low.
gamespot.com/articles/the-witcher-2-pirated-45-million-times-cd-projekt/1100-6346876/

Read what I initially said. It's because current consoles turned out to be trash so they had to scale everything right back, not because of PC limitations. In fact, you can even turn on e3 mode in PC version of watch dogs.

Tomb Raider was another one of those games and sold 4 million on Steam.

Almost every pirate also bought the game. Look I can make up facts too.

>gamespot.com/articles/the-witcher-2-pirated-45-million-times-cd-projekt/1100-6346876/

>Yeah, man. Just like Dark Souls 2 and Watch Dogs ran at E3.
Are you actually implying those games didn't get downgraded now?

>That's the issue. The full game probably wouldn't have scaled well unless you put everything on low.
Why? You don't even know what was downgraded.

The consoles were only part of the reason. Watch Dogs still had missing effects even with the restored graphics. I think so anyway. Minor effects only though.
>Are you actually implying those games didn't get downgraded now?
Are you disabled? Did you read the post being replied to? Fuck off.

no. im poor not a fagget.

>Are you disabled? Did you read the post being replied to? Fuck off.
I did I'm calling you a retard. All of these games got downgraded for consoles.

>Part of the reason
What, you think they'd just ignore console releases then? Get real.

Dark Souls, yes. Watch Dogs? Not because of consoles since Assassin's Creed Unity was released the same year and looks miles better.
They can't ignore console unless they hate money.

Why are you posting something from the OG Xbox era? Back then consoles actually had competitive price/performance compared to PC. It's only last gen the "holding PC graphics back" opinion became popular because the consoles got superseded quite early, then this gen it's arguable if they ever held a lead at all.

ACU looks like fucking shit on consoles. 20fps, lower than low pc settings, and it runs at low resolution. Watch Dogs was downgraded for consoles, just look at how good the mods for the game look even though they're basic.

>AA
>FOV
>Mods
>are "modern shit"

Kek, must be 18 to post here

No. Games like League of Legends, Dungeon Fighter Online and Wow that can run on toasters are holding PC back, as those games are the most profitable. Or how about that CS Source clone Crossfire. Don't blame consoles. Blame third world countries and teenagers if you really want to put blame on someone or something. But let's be honest here, even if you knew who to blame, you couldn't do shit about it. It's just how the market works.

yeah TR2013 looks pretty good. Rise looks pretty good too but it's just too similar to the console version, yeah PC gets much better ambient occlusion but it's not so much of a difference to matter to most people. Hitman and Deus Ex too, the games just don't have enough differences between the PC and console version to justify a GPU upgrade.

wow xD lol the dahnald meme xDDD
fuck off.

>20fps
The game ran like shit on everything at launch. Same with Watch Dogs but Watch Dogs much less so.
>mods
Irrelevant to watch we're talking about. Mods can make fucking Skyrim look good.

The only thing holding PC graphics back are lazy devs that would rather force people to buy the most expensive hardware instead of optimizing their shit.

Was there something wrong with ACU or was it really that graphically demanding?

This

Shit optimisation.

Console games don't make as much money as most of those.

Except devs don't target laptop specs with AAA games. They do target console specs. No one cares if you have to run Battlefront on low at 1336x768.

>The game ran like shit on everything at launch. Same with Watch Dogs but Watch Dogs much less so.
False and I said "basic" for a reason dumbass.

>Just like Dark Souls 2 and Watch Dogs ran at E3

Funny thing is that with tweaks you can literally get Watchdogs to look 90% the same as the E3 presentation. That literally was just borked for consoles

>false
OK
>basic
Even SweetFX can change everything.

Read the thread.

Nah user, graphics are fine. Gameplay, artwork, ai and story needs to evolve.

Stop this everything must feel like a movie cancer.

>CS Source clone Crossfire
Crossfire doesn't have physics, it's more of a CS 1.3 clone