"we have a product for people who can't get online, it's called Xbox 360"

what the fuck was he thinking?

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>man I wonder what's the absolute worst possible answer to this question I could give?

>where were you when Sony reclaimed the throne

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>that moment straight after he says it and realises how hard he just fucked up

I was watching the live stream. It was amazing.

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What went wrong?

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Jump to :34 if it doesn't start there. That's probably what he was thinking.

When Microsoft got eternally BTFO

I still don't understand how this was a problem.

It's exactly how Steam works and everyone fucking loves Steam. Plus everyone in this thread obviously has internet.

>Sony does nothing
>Make's it their marketing objective
>Sells twice as much as competitor

He's right though. There is no reason to keep a dead system alive because people can't afford the new one.

Because moving to Steam was a long and painful transition, and even then Steam lets you play offline forever as long as you save your login info.

He couldn't say "buy a PS4", he couldn't say "we're working on an offline option" because they weren't working on one because they thought they'd get away with it at the time. It was literally the only answer he could reasonably use.

There were a few servicemen that popped up their say 'that depending on the internet 24/7 is a fucking luxury they don't have.

The head of Microsoft message was to stick with the previous console, how can you fuck it up so badly!!

In all honesty, Microsoft sold the PS4 better than what Sony could have done if they tried.
The sad thing is, Sony didn't have to try at all, if they did the same amount of marketing Microsoft did, they just didn't fuck it up every 6 months by announcing some shitty feature that would obviously not be taken well.

>Cloud gaming - Azure Servers change the future of games
Did everyone forget this message they shoved down peoples throats for 2 years already?

He's a fucking snake, he could have dodged the question and saved face, not just for him but for M$ as well.

Seriously Microsoft fucked up massively at that E3. They couldn't have fucked up more if they tried.

>introduce DRM
>introduce paid online
L E L
E
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Sony literally made a worse product and sold twice as much just because what their competitor was doing is worse. This is why gaming can never fucking be good with console manufacturers like this.

How is the 4 worse than the bone?

we are at a time where there are people who don't remember Steam's first 2 years

The PS4 is a worse product than the PS3. Generally you don't make a new product and have it be worse than its predecessor and have it sell more.
>worse games
>paid online
>DRM
>muh CoD dude bro trash

How much are they paying you?

He looks a lot like Martin Shkreli here.

user, let's not forget that Jackie bailed after Sony pulled the taboo of denying investors dividends.

His golden parachute landed far, far away.

Except the PS4 is a better console than the bone.

You can argue about which online services are better but as far as hardware goes, the PS4 smacked the shit out of the bone.

That Half Life 2 update steam error, fucking never ever.

>man who fucked up the PS3, fucks up the Xbox One
Are you that surprised?

Now I feel like there's a bit of a reversal going on. PlayStation Now failed hard, and Xbox One's backwards compatibility list just keeps getting bigger. Plus, most BC games run better than they used to. It's hard to argue a shitty online streaming service where you rent games is even close to being competitive.

He got kicked for that you know.
correction, he "resigned"

kek,

ps4 sucks, can't even play my CDs. But at least I can put bloodborne on so I can hear the kickass soundtrack

The PS4 is a worse product than the PS3 friendo.

Are you a browncoat? because you seem to be trying to start a fight for a war that ended a long time ago

>>worse games
That's a preferenceissue.
>>paid online
True
>>DRM
No more than any system.
>>muh CoD dude bro trash
Who cares?

So, are you going to build an entire case off of the single valid point you have?

Wtf I hate Xbox now

ONE

BILLION

UNITS

But not the Xbox one, which is what we were talking about

Dont move the goalposts.

Nothing, Sony doesn't need to, you created my anger the first 2 years you xbone faggots posted marketing progress threads non stop inorder to shill here for god knows what reason, despite all those major set backs a person with half a brain new it wasn't going to reflect positively in the community.

You all degraded and treated Sup Forums like shit, flaming a massive console war that never stopped.
And now that the beast you have created has won over you this generation, we'll never let you rest easy 'muh comfy thread', 'most toxic community'.

You brought this on yourselves and in a generation of multiplats using 'no games' as ammunition. You can be fucking sure we'll never let it go.

I remember being so frustrated with steam when it launched

they made the wii u when they should've stopped making consoles and focus on the handheld market

In a world where everyone was already on edge due to several companies being "hacked" and losing credit card/personal information, they basically gave zero transparency that they were after a questionable amount of additional information, that had nothing to do with gaming.

Why would Sony waste money shilling on a Nintoddler board when they've already won and Ninty isn't even in the home console market anymore.

Glad this fucker got XBONED. Phil will save us.

What is Microsoft even trying to do these days? Their PR as of late has been horrible and they've been making some really shitty decisions.

You know, I honestly find it surprising that Microsoft has taken Xbox so far. Microsoft has continuously displayed failure and incompetence when attempting to enter any hardware market, and they continued to do so with the Xbox (giant piece of shit), Xbox 360 (loud, 33% failure rate), HD-DVD (does anyone even remember?), and finally Kinect and the Xbox One.

It would be easy to say that they'll drop out soon but I have a feeling they'll continue to make the Xbox brand even if it's bleeding money. They are insane and have too much money for their own good.

I don't even understand early adopters. I held off on WoW until 2007 due to being paranoid about giving credit card access to a corporation known for expensive games.

That's not what I was talking about. You immediately assumed I was talking about the bone. I was talking about the PS3 when I said htat. The xbone is a better product nows anyways.

They're trying to get rid of Xbox (the console, not the brand) by merging it with Windows.

They are planning on going third party with their existing software, BUT before they do, they released an upgraded Xbone and are working on an additional version with much more powerful hardware. The obvious irony is that no game developers have said anything about developing for Scorpio or Neo.

How so?

already blew most of your points out of the water, so how is it better?

You never stated anywhere that you were talking about the PS3 and it is fucking logical to assume from your post that you were talking about its competitor, not its predecessor.

Either be clear in what you say or refrain from moving the goalposts.

Also
>Xbone is a better product now
Kek

>muh CoD dude bro trash
You mean like Bloodborne? Nier 2? Ni No Kuni 2? Person 5?

And the PS3 didn't get a good library of games till after 2010.

>it's a preference
Looking at metacritic scores seem to prove otherwise.

>DRM
There weren't DRM last-gen. The console is literally DRM itself. The fact you need DRM is ridiculous.

>cod dude bro trash
Because the people who play the PS4 are mouthbreathing retards and as such you get garbage games. They are spending more time and energy marketing Call of Duty than making an emulator to make it BC or any other improvements.

Playstation Now offered free games years before Microsoft decided too, and was a free service for a long while in the past. To compensate they had the Vita, PS3, PS4 game free game eco-system that other people who don't own a sony console know shit about.

Backwards compatibility is exactly that, going backwards. The money could of been better invested into studios to make new games, there are plenty of franchises under Microsoft's belt as well.

Everyone left the previous generation to the past consoles, AND the knowledge those games will eventually go digital.

That's fucking right, what's important is the digital library, and Sony offered just as much, even more if you put down access to past games.

Of course no one mentions the merit of it, because it's a fucking feature of the past. Everyone would realistically already played them.

Backwards compatibility is a step back from remakes, think about that for a second.

And this is what killed the Xbone early on.

How so? Because Microsoft built an emulator instead of shitty PSNow. Plenty of things such as fixing the problems with the controller. New features and new OS. Sony is spending all their time hyping up the next Caw of dooty.

Sony helped.

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xbox was so angry hahahaha

BB and a bunch of games that aren't released yet. Were you also excited for knack friend? P5 is on PS3 and there has been heavy speculation that both Nier and Ni No Kuni could be hitting PC.

>>it's a preference
>Looking at metacritic scores seem to prove otherwise.

They preferred to dislike those games.


>>DRM
>There weren't DRM last-gen. The console is literally DRM itself. The fact you need DRM is ridiculous.

How is the console DRM?

>>cod dude bro trash
>Because the people who play the PS4 are mouthbreathing retards and as such you get garbage games. They are spending more time and energy marketing Call of Duty than making an emulator to make it BC or any other improvements.

As stated before, who cares? BC is fine and all, if you're not a retard who sold your ps3. Hell I still have my ps2.

Uhh, know it's not logical to assume.
>preface the statement with stating that Sony introduced paid online and DRM to PS3
>assumes I'm talking about bone when I said they made a worse product

P5 being a PS3 just shows how much Sony is ahead, they didn't even have to bribe Atlus to make it PS4 only to force more Japs to get one.

Sony needs to play ball with the shitty COD 'dorito and mountain dew' culture Microcuck marketers created.

Effectively stealing the 360 only generation onto PS4, casuals eat up that kind of messaging too, doof doof, explosion here and there. The games aren't good but they sell, Sony had an easy way to make money.

No new FPS franchise from Microsoft this 'next gen'. Now THAT is a sloppy pathetic shame. They even had a chance with Titanfall and fucking blew it with EA server type policy, which even EA turned their back on and apologized for.

>Because Microsoft built an emulator instead of shitty PSNow.

Who needs an emulator when you have the original hardware? No one in their right mind sold their ps3.

>Plenty of things such as fixing the problems with the controller.

That's a good point.


>New features and new OS. Sony is spending
all their time hyping up the next Caw of dooty.

What's wrong with the PS4's OS?

Also, who cares about CoD?

>They preferred to dislike those games.
So a lot more people have a preference that those games are shit. By your logic PC is the greatest platform because it has 10,000 games. Sure many of them may be early access indie shit, but clearly that's just a preference right?

>how is the console DRM
You have to own the console in order to run exclusive software unless an emulator is out.

>BC is fine and all
And what happens when your PS3 is dead? Do people want one machine that can play games or multiple ones? If they didn't lock it down for specific hardware it would always be BC.

Yes and no. We all know last generation was they worst since pre nes. Ps4 will eventually have better games in a much shorter time period last gen was 10yrs they longest in history. Hardware wise they ps4 is trash. They ps3 broke petraflop barrier with IBM but x86/64 killed consoles from being special ever again. This is due to shifting trends now that programmers don't need to be talented anymore since pre made cost effective engines became they norm

PS Now =/= PSN+

PS Now is the game streaming service that you rent games from

PSN+ is wat you sub to for "free" games and online multiplayer

You're a dumb fuck thinking from a western perspective. Japanese gamers have slow adoption rate to new technologies, believe it or not. This explains Nintendo in a nut shell falling behind, but they are faithful to brands. Sony has way more PS3's in Japanese households than PS4s still, that's why it makes sense to do a release that would be considered for last-gen by western standards.

Corporate cocksuckery and being emotionally invested in the success of a company. Nice bullshit bro. So even if Sony starts taking 50% more of developer money than they already do you'll praise them because they're making more money even if you have to spend more dollars? What happened to gaming being a hobby instead of assblasted sonnygers raging on about how much sales Sony has? It's really fucking pathetic.

>they didn't even have to bribe Atlus to make it PS4
2chan mentioned a delay back in 2013, and said that Sony wanting a PS4 port was the main reason. Days later, the rumors started appearing on gaming news sites.

Yet the PS4 rendered stable 60 frames when forced to yet the Xbone fucking struggled without massive patches.

In a multiplat generation, lol Microcucking itself again.

>Who needs an emulator when you have the original hardware? No one in their right mind sold their ps3.
Yeah, I for one like to buy a product that is a better gaming experience than the last one. I also prefer having one machine with all my games on it. I own native consoles, but I use emulators just for this reason. I don't even care if it's a worse exprience.

>what's wrong with the PS4 OS
Nothing except there competitor is upgrading it and they aren't.

>who cares about CoD
I do because CoD is ruining gaming. Instead of fixing the many problems with the PS4 system they spend it for exclusive CoD deals.

Autism: the.post

If you don't think this generation is much worse than you're high. Just a newsflash this generation ends next year bucko.

Its very surprising considering if it wasn't for Sega helping Xbox engineer who were so inexperienced at console/controller manufacturing the brand would of never existed

They've won the hard battles, the US and EU.
Japan will go to the PS4 because LOLXBONE and Nintendo has stopped making home consoles. They literally win by default, it's just a matter of how fast and how big it gets once FF15, P5 and other drop.

He was the personification of Microsofts attitude towards their customers.

"Go fuck yourself" sums it up fairly well.

It was so fucking bad.

They had like 2 servers for the whole US and you had to download the client and then every single update ever released for it before actually getting game.

I can remember burning the counter strike files to a CDR and thinking I was a genius.

Wanting to place nice in Sup Forums, you must be a dumbslut that loves getting anally fucked. Early PS4 threads we wanted to enjoy ourselves but we'd keep on getting 'no game crap' filling up our shit.

Hate doesn't die out here you fucking moron, the tables never turned either, there were a vast majority of civil oldfags and people who still discuss games here. But your scum minority really fucked it all in the beginning of this gen, get royally fucked thinking that it's only been about the organisation of Sony.

Buying a console for better performing multiplats simply doesn't matter to most people. It's like choosing between two pieces of shit when there's a desert right in front of you. Even the worst ports on PC on high-end hardware are at the very least on-par with the console version if not for the moddability (which could fix it like DaS), input options, extra graphical settings, displayport, less input lag, etc.
Fanboys only use that as a justification. If you really cared about performance you would buy a PC for multiplats.
Also,
>PS4
>60 fps.

>You know, I'm tired of this gig at Microsoft. What's the fastest way for me to lose my job?

>what the fuck was he thinking?
The same thing that Sony thought when they announced $599 Dollars. Xbox was successful last gen, so they got cocky.

If the terminology is too advanced for you, I can recommend you to ESL facilities, it stands for 'English Second Language' since they don't accept man children in primary schools.

It's not about playing nice it's that you're literally emotionally invested in the financial state of a company. Every NPD there is a thread praising Sony and celebrating your win. It's just fucking cringy and it certainly isn't good shitposting or a good rhetorical argument to get a PS4.

"Everyone has internet" is the biggest meme phrase when trying to defend shit like this. You have to rely on the company's shitty servers too.

>fuck these Soniggers shilling, so toxic
>it was not by my hand Sup Forums became a console war battleground
>w...well...y-you have autism

top kek

Keep going Cpt. Autismo. Your anger sustain me

>By your logic PC is the greatest platform because it has 10,000 games. Sure many of them may be early access indie shit, but clearly that's just a preference right?

Yeah, people's taste differ.

>You have to own the console in order to run exclusive software unless an emulator is out.

Um, user, that's all video game consoles. Not every game is a multiplat.


>What happens when your PS3 is dead?

You get it fixed or get a new one.


>Do people want one machine that can play games or multiple ones?

I know what you mean by this but damn that sentence is not constructed well. Yes, I would rather have the console of the current gen play the games from the console of the previous gens, but emulation is ALWAYS going to be buggy, especially with the THE FUCKING SHIT SHOW THAT THE FUCKING CELL PROCESSOR WAS WHAT THE FUCK WHERE THEY THEY THINKING, MY VIDEO GAME SYSTEM DOES NOT NEED TO HAVE THE FUCKING ARCHITECTURE OF A GODDAMN SUPERCOMPUTER!!! WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT HOW MANY TERRAFLOPS THIS OR HOW MUCH FOLDING POINTS THAT???? I JUST WANT THE MOTHERFUCKER TO PUSH SOME POLYGONS SO THAT MY GAMES DON'T LOOK LIKE GARBAGE.

Which brings me to my next point:

If they didn't lock it down for specific hardware it would always be BC.

IT'S NOT LIKE THEY HAD A GODDAMN CHOICE WITH THE FUCKING CELL PROCESSOR BEING A WASTE OF RESOURCES, RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT, AND LABOR COSTS. DID YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS A FUCKING FACT, DID YOU KNOW THAT THE PS3s WERE SELLING AT A FUCKING LOSS WHEN THEY FIRST CAME OUT? I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE THINKING, FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINETY US DORRARS, RIGHT? HOW COULD THEY BE AT A FUCKING LOSS SELLING IT LIKE THAT? BECAUSE THE BASTARD WAS DESIGNED LIKE A FUCKING ARRAY OF CRAYS BUT ON ONE CHIP. SURE, IT WORKS GREAT FOR FUCKING MATH AND SHIT, HELL IT CAN PROBABLY CALCULATE PI TO THE EIGHT MILLIONTH DIGIT OR SOME SHIT, BUT FOR VIDEO GAME DEVELOPMENT IT'S UTTER GARBAGE.

FUCK THE CELL AND FUCK SONY.

So, yeah, that's why the PS4 doesn't have BC.

This is the exact same argument microshitters used when they ran out of ammunition, and that was PC superiority which is completly true.

But always used with the first sentence attempting to steer away the conversation that it doesn't matter.

PC is a higher performance:cost ratio purchase. Consoles are arguably low to mid tier income purchases. There is a crowd that values this type of entertainment purchase for themselves, and that's been reflected in the selling rates of these two competitors. Sony has twice as much, those are the numbers now.

It was only two days ago I saw another of those fucking 'sales marketing in Xbone's favor' posts that I never wanted to see again.

No Xbone exclusive was a massive console seller besides existing franchises, that's beyond pathetic.

Even Sony was smarter than Microsoft securing an edge with Destiny, a major title people bought a console for with 1 year exclusivity to bonus features.

Granted the game was shit, but that's Sony getting ahead of Microsoft despite the fucktonne of money that company has.

It's hilarious and of course we'd get threads popping up about Xbone being great as shit marketing wise.

You had your chance to talk about games years ago, you can all eat shit and die now, it's refreshing for me.

>Um, user, that's all video game consoles. Not every game is a multiplat.

I know every console is basically DRM if you could make a hardware version of digital rights management.

>>what's wrong with the PS4 OS
>Nothing except there competitor is upgrading it and they aren't.

It's a non issue then.

I'm done, tapped out from my rant Here, so I'm not going to reply, because honestly sony doesn't deserve me trying to defend it. fuck them. I quit.

You are one in thousands in the past couple of years that lack the ability to rebuttal facts given.
>muh autism
Trust me, I've always gotten the better end of the bargain with the weight of evidence behind my back.

>This is the exact same argument microshitters used when they ran out of ammunition, and that was PC superiority which is completly true.
>But always used with the first sentence attempting to steer away the conversation that it doesn't matter.

It really doesn't matter to console players that is. The facts are that TVs are such shit devices the upscaling and frame rate differences make little difference, and most console players use TVs.

> PC is a higher performance:cost ratio purchase. Consoles are arguably low to mid tier income purchases. There is a crowd that values this type of entertainment purchase for themselves, and that's been reflected in the selling rates of these two competitors. Sony has twice as much, those are the numbers now.

And you can get a $200 PC with a better performance cost ratio, but would you want to use that to play games? A gaming hobbyist shouldn't care about cost per performance and objectively speaking it's actually a trash measurement for entertainment.

Again praising Sony's bad consumer decision.
I'm not even saying the xbox one is even good, but objectively speaking it's in a similar situation than the PS4 was when it launch. They may be making shit decision and anti-consumerist decisions, but it's better than their counterpart.

I will say one thing more, I don't own a ps4, and at this rate I never will. I hope that ffxv comes to pc, but honstly how the series has been going i can't really say I care.

>tfw remembering pics of that guys house

Did the same but I actually bought a physical copy of hl2 (it was like 3 disks) from a friend.
It let me install everything from the cd instead of downloading crap.

Honestly though, deployed military aren't Microsoft's main target demographic. There might be a ton of young male gamers in that group, but it pales in comparison to how much teenagers and kids (or their parents) spend on console games. It's not a good long-term strategy, but Microsoft doesn't care too much about their gaming department.

>talking shit about the Xbox hueg
>anime picture
You've been charged two offenses of shit taste

lets go kill these ceos . we know where they live. we just need an angry mob

fuck that faggot
BASED PHIL SAVED US

Gotta give credit where it's due, Phil has tried his best with the Xbone. He's been left with an unenviable task and isn't entirely shitting the bed with it. The whole "everything is also coming to PC" angle has knocked the wind out of his sails but otherwise I can't think of anyone who would do a better job.

You've summed it up nicely, Microsoft just doesn't care, or else they wouldn't repeat these problems that always fuck them over.

The ideas of Xbone were never a bad thing, just poorly as fuck implemented. Forcing Kinect as a necessary attachment since Nintendo succeeded with peripherals, when the target market is completely different.

The product Xbone is an insult to an adult mind, the only major selling point of it was sticking to old franchises, or having friends that purchased it as well.

Microsoft discredited too many things and trivializing it as rumor, but guess what, we are in a networked social media type age where something like a rumor rips a gigantic hole from what was once a tight anus.

It always fumbled after itself during damage control as well, I'm not thinking of the financial success of it all, I'm considering it as a franchise. The Xbone is now after countless patches something that can only be passable, it's now forced the hand again trying to push a next gen race with a .5 upgrade era.

All this shit is tiring and I can only see them fucking it up again because they have 'no games' to sell the console.

The game libraries will also exclusively upgrade to their own game ecosystems, so cross purchasing will be weaker as well. It's still a PS4 v Xbone generation for a while. Moving to PC, then backpedaling.

Such a fucking joke.