>loses his hand >loses his eye >face is scarred >shrapnel embedded into his body >memory is wiped >forced to take on big boss' memories >forced to feel the guilt that big boss doesnt feel for the dead MSF soldiers >every time one of his soldiers dies so does a tiny part of him >he will never be remembered by history as all of his achievements will be attributed to big boss, even though he did half the work
Venom is Big Boss, you missed the whole point of the game.
Luis Williams
He was here just to suffer
Samuel Thompson
Don't forget
>ends up getting killed off by a clone who is led by BB
Jordan Fisher
DEFINITIVE EDITION ANNOUNCEMENT WHEEEENNNNNNNNNN
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Andrew Johnson
Probably this week on gamescom. Release date leaked for 11th October.
Ayden Bailey
The man who became venom 'died', all for big bosses ego.
Kayden Cox
I can relate
Dylan Diaz
What would that even include? All the useless costume dlc? Wow, it's fucking nothing.
Alexander Hill
That's what everyone fears, but everyone secretly hopes for new content from the bottom of their hearts.
Camden James
Come on user, let it go. It hurts, it hurts me too. But let it go.
Camden Roberts
>tfw the quarantine scene >tfw he took the burden on himself so only he would feel the pain >all that responsibility was dumped on him by big boss because he wanted no distractions while building outer heaven
Cooper Cooper
People think it will be GZ+PP+DLC, or maybe even include more content I think it'll be PP+some of the DLC and no GZ because fuck you
Lucas Mitchell
He was led by Big Boss, but he wanted Solid Snake to die that is why he kept on sending him into ambushes in the first game and never expected him to actually get to venom.
Connor Green
>yfw you realize that solid and naked are the worst written snakes in the series
Tyler Sullivan
Solid was the best written until 4 was made entirely around Kojima trying to emphasize how hard his life was
Cooper Morales
Getting cucked will do that to a man
Alexander Phillips
>he will never be remembered by history Neither will quite and no one cared about her, because of what she did.
Joshua Smith
At least he had top tier cum dumpster Game about son of Venom when?
Ayden Foster
That's because quiet was fucking shit. One of the worst mgs characters.
Luis Torres
That's Eli
Punished Snake most likely only fucked Kaz
Luis Baker
I hope they will start remaking the original metal gear games with the fox engine. Telling the old stories with a new game engine and some new features would be amazing for the series.
Brandon Russell
>tfw Venom Snake did more for Eli than Eli's own father did
Carter White
Umm what about dna test that proved Eli isn't Venom's clone? Get your shit together
Ethan Garcia
What about the 40 mintues of tapes that existed only in your mind?
Benjamin Green
I never said Eli was Venom's son. I said that Venom did more for Eli than Big Boss did and BB was his actual father
Zachary King
Confused souls back at it again with overinterpretation!
Kayden Hughes
he hated quiet, did you even play the game?
William Walker
I was just saying Venom never had sex with Quiet.
Because he didn't.
Levi Howard
Punished Snake was always a cooler name than Venom Snake.
Levi Evans
So that's why he rescued her three times?
Nolan Davis
No, he didn't. It's obvious.
Kevin Parker
Love can bloom even on a battlefield
Jackson Adams
Ocelot did the rescuing.
Ethan Morgan
I.. I really don't get the storyline of MGS.
Mason Gonzalez
They changed d-dog from being a doberman to the wolf dog thing. They also didn't implement enemy guard dogs.
Matthew Sanchez
Venom and Quiet's daughter grows up to be Sniper Wolf
It's really just about a couple of guys trying to fulfill their own versions of some lady's vision of the world.
Connor Scott
Literally just actual big boss making a base while chief medical snake kills parasites and ties up loose ends for him
Wyatt Martinez
Sniper Wolf is kurdish tho don't mind the plot holes lmao
Caleb Walker
A woman's love, yeah, but Venom didn't want it.
Especially if it's Quiet's
Dylan Sanchez
Too many snakes and too many characters.. I also only played V and Ground Zero.
Kayden Thompson
>>he will never be remembered by history as all of his achievements will be attributed to big boss, even though he did half the work
Best part is the same was said for The Boss and her sacrifice for her country. People never knew what she had done or the burden she had purposefully carried for the good of everyone. Aka seen as a traitor.
Kevin Perry
Oh I'm actually gay nevermind, I thought you said MGS5, here's another (You) :^)
William Brooks
CAN YOU FEEL THE LOOOVE TONIIIGHT
Carson Kelly
All the work that Venom did gets forgotten anyways. No one remembers that time in Afghanistan and he was in the part of Africa that no one remembers too.
Hell, there isn't a single character that interacted with Venom present past MG1 and no one important liked or cared about him.
Everyone he loved and cared for were just knock offs of people around Zero and Big Boss to complete the illusion.
Bentley Campbell
Never happened, Venom chose Sniper wolf over Quiet, because he never cared about her, he didn't want Quiet's love, and left her do die without giving her a dicking because he never wanted to.
Camden Howard
>tfw you want to replay but don't want to sit through that long ass tutorial (twice)
William Peterson
Yeah Venom felt her love and rejected her.
Samuel Perry
Quiet had to go because lame tape thing. No one left her. You can see how sad Venom was when his minions told him that Quiet is gone.
Christopher Ross
Did she even do anything? Or did i miss it?
>She fails an attempt on Venom's life.
>Gets taken by Skullface and injected with virus, turned into bioweapon sniper lady.
>Gets captured by Venom and put on MB.
>Doesn't speak english since it will cause an outbreak.
>Falls in love with Venom, much like Ocelot did.
>Leaves because she knows she cant be with him, or stay on MB.
What else?
Bentley Allen
Venom Snake > Naked Snake. Naked Snake is a pussy and a coward. Venom Snake is a true hero.
Bentley Martinez
she left because boss despised her.
Aaron Harris
I think the fact that you can just kill her and not have her be in the game just about says it all.
Thomas Cruz
Venom (and all of his men) are sterile due to the wolbachia treatment.
Elijah Richardson
Why do you do this youre pretty much barneyfag at this point
Daniel Bell
They had opportunity to fuck before all hell broke loose.
Isaiah Reyes
Venom is literally meant to be a better Big Boss than Big Boss himself. He's the meme of the perfect soldier personified, and the fall of Big Boss is that he creates a messiah in his own image and then leaves him to die for his own agenda.
Like anyone actually killed her. Like half the cutscenes go with her.
Brody Brooks
Why am I still alive. Why do I have to shoulder this sadness.
Liam Sullivan
>Big Boss >Eli's father Big Boss was cloned without consent. It's the whole reason he left Cipher.
Jonathan Bennett
this
She's a puddle of tar in all reality, Quiet is a leper.
Kayden Ortiz
Not really though. Their relationship doesn't get even warm until after the wolbachia crisis. There's no trust at that point.
Luis Price
>everyone got to fuck his waifu Paz except for him
Aaron Jackson
Venom is just a meme stand in for the player and in the end doesn't do anything important except fill in a plot hole from MG2.
He fights in a conflict that only existed to tells us how Zero ended up in a chair.
He serves with a unit that doesn't do anything important.
He defeats a bad guy that never would have achieved anything anyways.
He takes on a Metal Gear that didn't even work.
David Wright
I did. Zero logical reason why Venom would let a Cipher assassin on mother base.
Levi Cooper
I do it to disprove the shitposters, Snake never wanted her, he never liked her.
Jaxson Bell
>He's the meme of the perfect soldier personified Venom's personality is nothing but the incomplete memories of Big Boss. This makes as much sense as Straight Gayman's plan for Peace Walker. >A human cannot be trusted with the responsibility of Nuclear Retaliation. >So we must make an AI that is a 100% recreation of a person's mind!
Xavier Young
>he creates a messiah in his own image He didn't. Zero did. All Naked Snake was use Venom's delusions to his own advantage, while also ensuring Venom's survival and providing him with the resources to live out his dream. The game goes out of its way to absolve NS of any responsibility and people saying that it was meant to mirror how The Boss was disposed is just apologism for Kojima's writing.
Austin Bell
Snake never trusted Quiet anyways.
Ayden Moore
I'm still really disappointed with the outcome of this game. Serves me right getting so hyped I guess.
James Garcia
He didn't have a problem with it. If he had, he wouldn't have stayed. Remember, the entire reason Venom was chosen was because he had attempted to sacrifice himself to save Big Boss.
Lincoln Johnson
>Actually falling for marketing hype (You) poor soul.
Brandon Lewis
Will you buy Metal Gear Solid V: Chapter 3 directed by Hideo Kojima, a product of Kojima studios? I promise its definitive open world experience.
Quiet was a waste anyway, she is a literal nobody.
She is also sexually off putting to Snake.
Kevin Sanders
Trying to get her to talk. Autism. Telling her to go away.
Nicholas Gutierrez
>"I DONT GET THE STORY. Why? I only played PP and GZ"
No shit you nigger. It's like complaining that GoT it's hard to follow because you only watched the latest season.
Jaxon Hill
Skull face's greatest accomplishment is literally making sure two old men didn't make up and get their friendship back.
Venom's greatest accomplishment is inheriting a new base from the guy he's supposed to pretend to be.
Kaz's greatest accomplishment is being cucked three times by the same man.
Luke Roberts
And he wouldn't want it any other way
Ian Hall
Just because she loves him, doesn't mean he has to want to fuck her, because he didn't want to.
He knew she was in love and rejected her.
Brandon Scott
DIAMOND DOGS IS OUTER HEAVEN. You, as BB phantom built Outer Heaven. In the end you even see Diamond Dogs logo changing into Outer Heaven.
Hell, MG1 starts with Snake infiltrating Outer Heaven through the ocean. Diamond Dogs installation is Outer Heaven.
Aiden Cooper
Didn't Venom Snake agree to becoming a body double? In one of the Truth tapes, Ocelot tells Big Boss, "And don't forget, it's what he wanted."
Grayson Thomas
DELET THIS
THESE PHANTOM FEELS
Alexander Phillips
Except for the fact that Outer Heaven is built on an island and not a series of platforms.
Retard.
Venom didn't build Outer Heaven. Big Boss built it while people were paying attention to Diamond Dogs. Then Big Boss gives Outer Heaven to Venom when he goes back to America to start Fox Hound.
Big Boss is building Zanzibar Land while MG1 is happening.
Austin Jenkins
Yes he had a conversation with Big Boss about it while they were falling into the ocean together.
Anthony Wright
Most misunderstood game since MGS2. All the questions and misinformation in the thread alone prove it. I'll be the first to admit the game has flaws, but it's masterfully crafted at the same time.
t. 31 years old and 300+ hours played in TPP user
Jason Smith
Kazuhira, Eli, and the player. jfc. Maaaaaaaaaaybe Ocelot
And all of the thousands of people that he recruited that remained loyal to him as a person when revealed he was not Big Boss.
Joseph Collins
No need for the smartassery. He was awake when Big Boss fell into a coma.
Something that bothers me. BB is literally Hitler for the American government. Maybe even to the world.
They hate BB, they see BB as a threat to international/national security. He is considered to be a terrorist by the US government. You even see him running away with a fake ID in the end of MGSV because the entire world wants him dead.
But for some fucking reason, something happens, the US and the world has a change of heart and the US allows him to work directly with the US secret/military services but also the US gives him a "private", fully funded military organization.
Makes zero sense
Levi Gonzalez
It's another MGS2. Kojima built up a Phantom in the game's marketing, the idea that we would be playing as the real Big Boss in a hamfisted Revenge of the Sith scenario (though the truth was there the whole time) causing a Phantom Pain in the audience when it wasn't the story they were expecting. It wasn't what they wanted, so they reacted with anger and scorn. With enough time, people will see MGSV's narrative for the masterpiece it really is.
The people mad it's not a movie and it's an actual video game are beyond saving and not worth responding to.
Hunter Rodriguez
And how could I forget.
Big Boss.
I want a MG1/2 remake to reconanize them and have Venom make an impression on Solid and have Solid realize he was rused or something
Adrian Martin
Letting her leave. You know it's true, he didn't want it.
Josiah Clark
Cipher, and the Patriots/those that ran them. Ez
Asher Adams
Venom is turned into another Skull Face, the characters are meant to be deliberate reflections of each other. The difference is that Venom accepted his role and Skull Face lashed out against the whole world.