>How dare you betray Hoshido
>I'm going to revenge my sister and kill you
>in 25 turns
what the fuck were they thinking?
How dare you betray Hoshido
He was thinking like Silas-kun
>"On my honor as a knight!"
M-MUH HONOR
Are you suggesting that they should have sacrificed gameplay for the sake of the already horrible story?
>25 turns
>lunatic mode only gives you 20 turns
OP's fault for choosing casual pissbaby mode and complaining about it on the interwebs
git gud
The entire time, I just imagined MC and Ryoma sitting in the room as the fight raged on outside, as they just carry a rather casual conversation while Ryoma keeps looking to his wrist and laughing to himself.
"So, brother, what brings you back home? What was so important that you had to KILL MY LOVED ONES AND MY PEOPLE."
"Uhhhh... someone mentioned before that you have a magic chair in the castle that can fix evil people."
"And... and you were going to sit the king on it and you hoped maybe he'd stop being such a dick?"
"That was the idea..."
"And you BELIEVED that story? A goddamn fairy tale about a magic chair is why my brother and sisters had to DIE AT YOUR HAND?"
"Well, I mean--"
"So many people died. Ha ha ha... oh my god, a fucking magic chair... my dear sisters, both killed mercilessly, so you could sit your obviously evil not-father on a MAGIC FUCKING CHAIR you thought we had... and maybe hope he'd give up all his cruel, murderous intentions, and be all kittens and rainbows and the war would be over... ha ha ha... Oh man... well, twenty more turns until I kill ya."
>can attack with nigh-impunity at range
>map also reduces the damage he takes until you activate the Dragonvein
>personal skill also increases the damage he does, and reduces the damage he takes which he might do unless the avatar is above level 18
>will still counter-attack on player phase
25 or 20 might've been a bit excessively generous, but given how powerful Ryoma's offensive capabilities are, not to mention how a bad crit and/or astra proc could end the player character in a short few phases, not having him rush the player down out of the starting gate is probably for the best.
>didn't kill Ryoma within 3 turns by yourself
>being this bad
>not softreseting until optimal RNG allows you to kill Ryoma for a 1 turn speedrun
Isn't he supposed to be very Bushido or some shit?
I'm almost here on a lunatic ironman run, do I have time to send my entire army one way then turn around and clear the other side? Or do I really need to split up?
Why didn't you just kill Lobsterman straight up?
If you're quick you have time
OUGI
Imagine if they had given him Vantage for the boss fight. It'd be like all those bosses with "fuck you" vengeance, on steroids.
>splitting up in Fates
how even?
nobody can tank anything and than there's the insane amount of debuff bullshit in the game on top of that.
The magic chair did exist though, and it's existence was never doubted
>nobody can tank anything
Xander/Effie are pretty damn decent tanks
I still need to read Buso Renkin
Inevitable End laughs at your tanks.
Faggot, Xander cannot tank it when 90% of his HP is drained along with -10 defense
Fuck off Azura. You talk about water all the time yet you have the driest pussy this side of the Desert of Death.
Use Ike
>Inevitable End
Which chapters does that appear in?
YOU ARE THE OCEAN'S GRAY WAVES
It was said that Nobody can't tank anything which isn't the case.
>He still has issues with the debuffs.
Think for a hot second nigga before you act.
>how dare you betray Hoshido and your blood siblings!
>except not really, I knew all the time we weren't related because mom told me in a letter lololz we sure pranked you xD
It's not about being related!
It's about choosing glourious perfect Nippon over genocidal evil murder Europ- I mean Nohr!
>Ike will never hold you in his big, strong arms
Actually Ryoma knew the whole time.
Soren, I thought he did that? Or is the relationship on the rocks?
>Actually Ryoma knew the whole time.
That's even worse
He kept fucking guilt tripping you
Yeah that tends to be one of the flaws people bring up when discussing his character. Note this only comes up in Birthright if you decide to fuck him. I mean who wouldn't?
Nohr siblings >>> Hoshido siblings pretty much all around
>Hoshidans pretty much take you for granted siding with them, don't even acknowledge your decision afterwards unlike on Conquest
>Nohrians always commending you for your loyalty to your family and cherishing each other
>Ryoma is the most generic boring leader, Xander at least shows signs of brotherly love and caring and his support with Corrin fleshes him out a bit, Ryoma's is just another "oops I was going to tell you something at C rank but I'm saving it for A now haha" support
>Camilla actually tries to get over her oneechan mental illness and has depth for it in her supports, Hinoka is just "I trained hard to became a pegasus knight to get you back from Nohr"
>Takumi is pretty similar to Leo with the tsun and is easily the best Hoshido sibling, but does nothing with it on Birthright while Leo is established as the guy that does the dirty work that needs to be done while still having a heart
>Sakura is generic shy imouto worried about being a burden and Elise is generic hyper imouto worried about being a burden, but Elise at least tries to do something about it while Sakura just cries
>Hoshidans in general feel like they have no chemistry with each other and just care about taking down Nohr while the Nohrians are all about their family ties
Disregarding that;
He knew the entire time, and still thought of Corrin as part of the family and every Hoshidan family member has some memories of Corrin.
Then he welcomes Corrin back and then suddenly everything goes to shit and Corrin's mother/the queen is brutally murdered in an attack which kicks off the invasion of Hoshido.
No shit, he'd be fucking pissed that Corrin in that event would decide to side with Nohr.
...
fuck off, Takumi
The nohr family has like no chemistry together either, what are you talking about? Xander interacts more with Ryoma than he does with any of his siblings. Even if you're going base off of supports, all the siblings seemed close with each other
Is it weird that lobster being a rather manipulative asshole made me like him more?
It's been said before, but the Nohrians just seem closer to Corrin. They know him as a person, while the Hoshidans only know him as the lost sibling.
If you don't go off supports you have to go off the story, and because Birthright's is just Awakening 2 it's pretty much just Corrin, Ryoma, and Azura just talking about how to take down Nohr with a side character chipping in. On Conquest Corrin has to sit and mope about his retarded idealism all the time and confront Garon and his advisors, and those moments feature the Nohr siblings more often. They just flat out get screen time the Hoshidans don't.
>Hoshidan family member has some memories of Corrin.
See this kind of throws me off. Considering that we know Ikona is all of the Hoshido siblings mother, wouldn't that mean that Sakura was real young/freshly born when Corrin was taken? I could have sworn that she says that she barely remembers the whole thing. And then why did Hinoka need the letter? She doesn't seem that much younger than Ryoma, she should have known that they weren't related.
The whole Ikona-Sumeragi-Mikoto timeline doesn't seem that well thought out.
And if you go off story the Nohr siblings interact more with their counterpart, the only time all the siblings do something together is like in the last two chapters of conquest?
Ryoma and Xander even finish each other's sentences in revelation which is more interaction Xander or Ryoma did with their siblings.
Him being that underhanded means that he probably fucks hard.
Ryoma at least came off as pretty even-handed given the context. Xander was just an asshole all the goddamn time.
They give you that time so that you can have the rest of your army get the treasure on the map. The right side has 10k gold in it. Otherwise the mission ends once Corrin defeats Ryoma.
>The whole Ikona-Sumeragi-Mikoto timeline doesn't seem that well thought out.
It was an excuse to let you fuck the royals, nothing more.
Why is the last third of Conquest so fucking bullshit? It was genuinely unfun to play. Starting around the stupid ninja cave it got progressively less enjoyable.
they have other times when they interact, in that they have dialogue together or at the same times.
And it's not like the Hoshido siblings are any better. In fact they are worse. The Nohr siblings interact repeatedly in Birthright, while the Hoshido siblings never interact in Conquest outside of that one chapter where they are captured. Maybe.
Were you going for the bonus item? I didn't think the ninja cave was so bad. Mr. Fuga's Wild Ride is when the game starts to be less fun. I was so over it at the end that I set it to Easy for the last chapter because I couldn't be fucking bothered to keep attempting the chapter to learn it because you aren't allowed to save.
Because IS's idea of a good challenge was to shove as many enemies into as small a space as possible.
Considering how we got all of that good story building shit for Tellius in that artbook dump as evidenced in Nigger's PoR playthrough thread, they could have at least straighten that shit out so that 1. Sumeragi doesn't look he cheated on his wife or 2. the siblings have unexplained memory loss
the moment there where 20 archers with counter on the map I couldn't be bothered with lunatic mode anymore.
The story is so insultingly bad that its simply not worth putting up with stuff like that.
There's only like a max of 3 times where the Nohr siblings interacted in birthright, the rest of the time they are just doing their own thing.
There's at least 3 times in Conquest where they're all together defending you in front of Garon. Yeah, it's not very deep, it's Fire Emblem and all, but it's something you just never even see on Birthright. Corrin is always having to whine to Xander or Leo about his beliefs which is something, on Birthright Corrin consults with Ryoma every now and then and it's not much either, it's always just affirming they stand behind him and they immediately move on.
Ramped up difficulty, pham
One thing i'll say though is fuck that stairway level with neverending faceless, such a cheap level and I despise it.
And that's still more than the Hoshido siblings interact.
And my point was that the siblings interact more with their counterparts than they do with their actual siblings. By your logic, Xander is closer with Ryoma than any of this siblings then.
I couldn't give a single shit what Ryoma's pissed about when he flat out lies to Corrin until she's about to suck his dick.
Chalk half of it up to the fact that Corrin in Birthright is much more confident and doesn't really have the same ambivalence about his decision, and the other half of it being that Ryoma is MIA for half the game.
Takumi is literally the only sane character in Awakening, I actually find him hilarious for that reason
Everyone is like 'oh man Takumi always mad lmao so unreasonable' but really Takumi is more like the only reasonably intelligent character who seems to be vaguely aware of how retarded everything and everyone around him is
Seriously he is the only one who was intelligent enough to say 'Hmm, this guy has been living with our enemy for the majority of his life, maybe we shouldn't trust him unconditionally at first?' and even worse, when he's right he rightly gets MAD AS FUCK because god knows I would be too
Takumi is literally the only intelligent character in a cast of aggressively stupid retards
It feels like IS stopped caring about balancing the maps. Conquest was actually really fun up until Chapter 20 or so then it felt like they were just throwing as much bullshit at you as they could.
I wasn't arguing that the amount they interact is indicative of how close they are, but simply that the amount of times the Nohrians interact is greater than the times the Hoshidans interact.
Ah yes, the counter snipers
>snipers are meant to be top tier at attacking from a distance
>meant to be shut down if fighting with no space
>lol lets give em counter to punish even engaging them
Worst part was even if you stood in front of them and blasted magic, counter would still go off even though magiccounter is its own thing
Micaiah best girl
You're forgetting about revelation, the hoshido family got scenes regarding their dead mother and father so it's pretty much equal
>Takumi is the only sane character in Awakening
Post-Awakeningfags, everyone.
When is Lyn coming back?!
Ike got that prime cat pussy
That's not really with each other though. No denying that they got more favoritism in Revelation.
fuck off its not Sup Forumskend yet
...
>muhLyn
Lyn is overrated as shit.
is it just me or is chapter 5 just some retarded difficulty spike meant to turn people off from the higher difficulties even if it becomes more reasonable immediately after
Whoops
I actually don't like fates and awakening and kind of lump them into the same thing in my head, which is why I did that
Pretty sure you're false flagging as one of those faggots who pretends awakening tier waifu cancer existed before awakening anyway
It's just (You).
Lyn is literally as "okay" as Lucina, her fans just haven't gotten as notoriously shit as Lucina
People like you are eager to change that it seems.
that's still interaction, even without that there's ryoma talking to hinoka in chapter 16, takumi talking to sakura in chapter 11, and chapter 27 in revelation
you first
But in the story, Lobster literally goes:
>"Oh you invaded Hoshido and killed everyone in order to sit Garon on the throne, exposing him as a slime?"
>"Why didn't you say sooner? That's a good plan Corn! Also I am dead now"
No, as soon as you arrive he just goes right to "I fucking despise him already" and then once Azura walks into the picture he goes "fuck you too cunt, you don't deserve anything". He starts right off as a hothead on introduction and he dies like one, simple as.
Anyways, some things that would have fixed Conquest's plot a little bit was having Azura joining Nohr with you with her black custome and having Queen Mikoto as the final boss.
I mean, some dumb excuse like 'Azura wanting to know what Nohr is like and how her family would meet her" would have been more than enough.
And you fight Mikoto in Revelations anyways, right? Why couldn't she be evil as well?
And then there's the scenes of Camilla talking to Elise and Xander talking to Leo as well. Granted I don't remember it all but also Camilla gets dialogue with Xander in chapter 13 I think? Which is weird since Takumi and Sakura don't get any with Ryoma in the same chapter.
Most everyone seems pretty perplexed as to why Corrin didn't mention anything sooner. Leo and Camilla both call them out on keeping it a secret too. Granted Xander is still kind of a dick about it even then, so there's that.
But I told first nigga.
>Implying that Ike didn't hit and quit Elincia before Geoffrey could swoce in.
>fuck you, I don't want you here!
>okay, guess I'll go back to Nohr
>TRAITOR
what is the best Fire Emblem game?
I need to play one that doesn't give me a headache from being pants on hat retarded like Fates.
It's time to stop.
>Comparing Lyn to Lucina
Oh boy.
You have triggered me so bad.
>No, as soon as you arrive he just goes right to "I fucking despise him already" and then once Azura walks into the picture he goes "fuck you too cunt, you don't deserve anything".
Except in Birthright, first time you meet him: he's possesed by evil ghosts and saved at the last second by Azura. He is abit hesitant to get close, but opens up quick and is bro as fuck, more so than other siblings.
In Nohr he is killed by evil ghosts and only time you meet real Takumi is when Corn dies fighting Garon and Takumi is rather nice and loving to Corn.
But nah, let's go back to memeing like retards about how much we hate Takumi.
>implying one woman is enough for ike
Xander is also the first one to defend Corrin when Garon is shown having gone full goop.
4, 7, 8 and 9, with 4 being the best. 12 is also ok if you pirate it. I haven't played 5. You should probably avoid 10.
True.
I know there's dialogue of the nohr siblings, but you made it to be that the hoshido siblings don't interact with each other which is false.
Lyn
>Strong in gameplay
>Weakest of other two lead males
>Uses a boring sword
>Waifu bait
>Has worst story part
Lucina
>Strong in gameplay
>Weakest of other two lead males
>Uses a boring sword
>Waifu bait
>Has worst story part
Don't mistake shitty fanbases with characters, Lyn and Lucina are literally both okay decent characters, its the fans like you that make a huge shit out of everything.
Blazing Blade.
It's literally FE's Final Fantasy 7.
You will feel like you are in a true adventure.
After that, play Sacred Stones.
It's easy, but enjoyable as fuck.
why is she so perfect?
Your waifu is literally worse than Tharja
I can see Lynfags and Lucinafags crossing over. already beat me to it. Main difference is that Lyn actually looks like a girl.
You're buying best girl's figure, right user?
Too bad it has the worst lord in the series
Fuck off spic
I'll wait and see how the finished product looks.