I'm sick of retards that don't know a thing about history trying to claim shit about WW1.
Yes, there were black soldiers. The English AND German(pic related) armies were integrated, and there were all black American regiments other than the Hellfighters.
Yes, there are many cases of women fighting during the war.
Yes, there were more fronts than just the western one, and no, not all the fighting was trench warfare.
Stop getting all of your history lessons from poorly made JRPG's and pick up a history book, you fucking idiots.
Man, look at that trench! How did they manage to dig it so deep, and why?
Isaac Sanchez
Christ almighty! Why didn't anybody tell these Italians to stop digging that trench?
Owen Rivera
but they were such a miniscule part of the war that the only reason to make a game about them is to pander to a minority demographic for no reason other than to appear progressive and liberal. battlefield is dead.
Evan Robinson
pretty much this.
OP BTFO
Brandon Jackson
And what poor Prussian fool let this obvious sub-human steal his uniform?
>Yes, there were black soldiers Not enough in Europe to be relevant enough to be in a game about WW1 that doesn't even have the FRENCH has a nation.
>Yes, there are many cases of women fighting during the war. >many No.
>Yes, there were more fronts than just the western one True, but the Western one was the important one.
>and no, not all the fighting was trench warfare. Most of the important fighting was.
>and pick up a history book History books of repute would disagree with your ignorant assertions based upon generalising exceptions.
Jacob Jackson
it doesn't matter if there were purple, pink, pr fucking paisley american soldiers, the point is in a world war 1 game you should not be playing as the country who only entered the war and participated in the last six months. you should be playing a serbian and the game should start with the july crisis.
Oliver Cook
Look! More proof that there were no blacks fighting for the Germans! That guy in the back is just covered in a lot of dirt from all that trench fighting!
Sup Forums would never be so wrong about something, would they?
Chase Carter
/thread
Colton Green
>the western front was the ONLY fighting of WW1, because my grandpa said so!
not when the overall fighting force was in the tens of millions.
Brody Powell
>That cherrypicking >He doesn't even realise blacks were in their own bataillons and didn't mix with whites during battles Congratulations fucko
Andrew Morris
Were there rapes of women in towns and villages?
Carter Hughes
>and there were all black American regiments other than the Hellfighters.
And do you know what General Pershing did when the US forces got to mainland europe?
He went to the french and said "you can have all these niggers if you want, we dont need them back"
David Perez
You know the German's were poised to win until America entered the war, right?
Jacob Reed
Your grandpa is old
Charles Cook
>over 350,000 fighting men isn't a contribution
There are single battles where more men died
Caleb Diaz
>one American nigger for 100 whites >LET'S MAKE OUR GAME ABOUT THAT ONE NIGGER If you are a blind and naive fuck that has been completely blind to what's happening to western culture, then only then can you accept this as anything but pandering.
Grayson Miller
MILLIONS of people fought and died in that war, a hundred or so minority soldiers is like a drop in the ocean.
Adrian Foster
>doesn't know what integrated means
The Germans had a fully integrated military until Hitler pulled his shit. The English have had a fully integrated military since before the fucking revolutionary war.
Oliver Mitchell
Hahahaha, hardly. German was near its breaking point before american intervention. And even then the US forces did fuck all.
Americas biggest contribution to ww1 is in arms, foodstuffs, munitions, ect.
Wyatt Jones
This, people aren't seeing the bigger picture here. See: Somme, Verdun etc
Easton Mitchell
sure as hell am happy call of duty doesnt' focus on SAS and super special snowflake special forces and snipers, which are the rarest things that happen in war just to pander to little boys who think snipers are cool and about 360 noskoping.
Sure am happy battlefield hardline focused on cops and bank robbers, which is like one of the rarest crimes, instead of muggings which is so common just to pander to "omg criminals are cool" audience
Sure am happy battlefield battlefront exists which isn't even based on real combat and is just made to pander and cashgrab from starwars fans.
Brody Gutierrez
>mfw Sup Forums gets BTFO on history once again and has to engage in piss-poor damage control
Ryan Watson
So are they gonna play the Germans as the bad guys for this war too?
Nathaniel Nelson
I'm not really sure what your point is - are you saying it's okay because everybody else does it?
Joshua Smith
most likely
Benjamin Davis
There were plenty of minorities fighting for the Nazis too, how come they aren't given the spotlight hmmm?
Charles Rodriguez
special forces are the most overworked members of the military, you don't know shit kid, spew your memes on reddit.
Caleb Morgan
Yes, they are Proto-Nazis after all. My highschool teacher Mr. Cohen says so.
Jonathan Garcia
>this is what Americans actually believe
Andrew Sullivan
More like you're avoiding the arguments proving you wrong while you continue to rely on cherrypicked information to fool yourself that this isn't SJW pandering
Leo Smith
>German near it's breaking point >that's why they were making breakthroughs all along the western front and taking territory they'd previously never touched
America was adamant about staying out of the war until the Entente powers were literally begging for more men.
Easton Wood
>I can't even fucking read: the post
Oliver Price
They weren't shown enough in a pre-rendered trailer yet. Until that happens, neo-Sup Forums can't become triggered by it.
Jason Bennett
Somme and Verdun were fought between European countries. If the game is about the American military, it'll naturally draw upon the ("merely") couple million men the U.S. sent to fight in WWI as opposed to the many more millions of Europeans. And 350k African American troops represents a higher proportion of American soldiers than their proportion of men who fought as a whole, meaning it makes a little more sense to have them star in a game about the American military.
tl;dr: if you want to complain about niggers starring in a WWI game, complain about 'Murica taking center stage too.
Aiden Roberts
So Hitlers Germany Wasnt at breaking during winter 1944 either? They broke through the frontline there
Thomas Thompson
>AND German(pic related) In Africa, not in Europe.
Carson Walker
The real problem from my point of view isn't the inclusion of blacks, because they did their part too, but the exclusion from the main game of the french which bore the brunt of the atrocities at the western front. Then again if I've heard wrong I'm happy to be proved wrong
Alexander Watson
Yes the Alps had a lack of trench based warfare due to the mountainus. Yes Germans and Tommies conscripted blacks into their army. Yes few women ended up in warfare. Yes the Western front is not the only front And yea I'm taking this bait But this game is like placing the Germans inside of Iwo Jima, handing it m16s for standard issue, making all American troops chink, and putting the Bismark at sea to give large amounts of fire support In other words a bunch of bullshit historical revisionism that actual historians fear.
Charles Murphy
why must one include the french in every game?
Levi Stewart
they were part of the war. youve already lost the argument. all you have is conspiracy shit now - hence piss-poor damage control
Angel Wilson
WE
Juan Torres
Your piss-poor arguments aren't arguments at all. They're they petulant wailing of a closeted bigot who's too stupid to research very simple things. That's why they've been largely ignored.
Alexander Smith
Nazis user. I'm talking about WW2 here.
Gavin Perez
>going by deathcount france and russia
Jackson White
>millions of european soldiers died >focus on the nigger Americans who are just the supporting characters >make Germany the baddie again in FUCKING WW1
Great job, white guilt is a disease. Good thing I'm not white, fuck nigger pandering.
Andrew Ortiz
>Yes, there were black soldiers. Yep, mostly in French army that is not represented. English had very mixed colonial force mostly made out of Indians. Germans had black soldiers... in Africa (not represented in BF1) but they are wearing European uniforms.
>Yes, there are many cases of women fighting during the war. Pfff. Yea, as ammo carriers and city garrisons.
>Yes, there were more fronts than just the western one, and no, not all the fighting was trench warfare.
Yes, like East/Chinese front that is completely unrepresented to favor DIVERSITY.
Carter Foster
Don't bother mate. Every /his/torian just gets called a SJW, religious-fag, or a fedora tipper when it comes to niggers, religion, and philosophy. Some people have other hobbies and some subjects such as these goes against the collective consciousness of the people on a specific board or in this case the thread itself.
Connor Reed
ayo hol up so you's be sayin we wuz warriorz n sheit?
Carson Hernandez
we sent 5 million men, not a couple. nobody talks about these negro units, no one cares about them here. their families have probably disintegrated over time as is common with african families whose fathers abandon them. this is pandering to the highest degree.
Xavier Howard
And they would've won if they'd been smart enough to pack winter gear, instead of assuming he fighting was going to be over by fall.
Gavin Moore
>a bunch of bullshit historical revisionism that actual historians fear. just like most games aren't It's about as realistic as battlefield 1942 or 2. Battlefield has never been muh military simulator nor have they claimed to have any realism.
They might as well go full retard and have fun. And no, most historians go "yeah I'd imagine implementing ww1 into a game might be difficult, everythings out of place anyway so it is about fine". Like ian from forgotten weapons and indy from great war and many others. Historians don't fear it. Practically not a single game gets historical accuracy right. Fucking men of war idiots praise for it's unparalleled realism is filled with bullshit.
Isaac Anderson
Damn, he looks like Viper.
But yeah. Fuck stormfags.
Samuel Bennett
We haven't even seen enough of the game to say whether the French are in it or not.
Henry Ross
>That >contributing anything
Nice try, Germany and France would like a word.
Bentley Rodriguez
They've confirmed they're not. Neither is Russia. DLC.
Logan Lewis
>American niggers being 0.01% of all fighting force during WW1 isn't an argument >beduin muslim warriors not even being a thing in WW1 isn't an argument
You're a massive fag that completely ignores everything proving you wrong. This game is SJW pandering trash. Don't deny it.
Also, France is fucking DLC. FRANCE IS DLC IN A WW1 game. And EA shill cocksuckers like you will defend it. Fuck you and fuck off.
There's a large difference between inaccuracy and deliberate breakaways for the sake of political agenda Revisions begin in the media and slowly crawl their way into academia
Camden Adams
>Neither is Russia For real?
Jonathan Miller
The EA shills are real. They even managed to get that thread with the ME3 dev being racist thread deleted. The infestation is complete.
Nathan Wilson
>>American niggers being 0.01% of all fighting force during WW1 isn't an argument Hellfighters were a distinguished unit with a stellar combat record. Might as well not have any games with elite troopers in it because they weren't amongst the millions that died. But no, SAS and Delta is fine since they're whtie wow. >>beduin muslim warriors not even being a thing in WW1 isn't an argument Good thing they didn't make a famous movie about them then.
Josiah Jenkins
how about the Battlefield universe is a seperate timeline were everybody loves to kill close and personal, which is why there was no trench warfare in ww1 and soldiers will still use knives to stab and steal dogtags in 2142
historical my ass they just better make this game fun and I'm good, I wouldn't care if all characters were little monkeys shooting with banana guns as long as the gameplay is good
Noah Thomas
>They put black solder in the game >They dont even put France when it's the only country giving them a chance to fight
Jason Phillips
What the fuck? Is that your argument? Hellfighters was literally just one unit that and no, there were no fucking muslim beduin woman warriors leading men into battle. That is pure SJW history fanfic. Get off that EA cock.
Bentley Bell
Uhhh, you do knoe Bedouin is just a catch-all term from the many different nomadic tribes that have existed in those areas for thousands of years, right?
They most certainly did exist and were fighting in various conflicts long before WW1 kicked off.
Fucking moron.
Alexander Lewis
The Poo in the Loos Sikhs are more distinguished that your American Nigger because they actually made a contribution unlike the Americans
Adrian Watson
so what. Nobody used majority of the weapons, gear, tactics either. What about you complain about everything but no you gonna be le ebin gabergboober edgelord
Jordan Ortiz
In this case they were the ones that did te most. Per example italy (wich is added) only did the same shitty battle 19 times and not mutch else.
Caleb Miller
I'm interested in these WW1 JRPGs.
Hudson Kelly
So i can never make a game showing the Serbians during WW1 without having to include the big players?
Robert Walker
>I don't know what integration means even though it's been explained in the very fucking thread I'll shitpost in but won't read!
John Adams
>le sikhs are le bro tier meme
Jordan Ortiz
At just under 5 million men, 350k black troops constitutes about 10%, which is certainly not a majority but hardly an infinitesimal 1% bit of nothing. Special forces constitute less than 10% of most militaries but nobody complains about games featuring the Navy Seals or whatever. What's wrong with a black protagonist besides HURRR NIGGERS?
Julian Price
Even with magic bullshit, VC1 and VC3 are more of a WW1 game than this shit. They at least have trench maps.
Samuel Bailey
WE WUZ KAIZER AND SHIT
Jeremiah Martin
>but hardly an infinitesimal 1% bit of nothing. Yeah it's much lesser then 1%
Ayden Walker
Or... OR! They made the game using these more eclectic bits of history becuase we've already seen all the trenches and crackers. Honestly, I think it really is pandering, but I also think it's unfair to discount that they might just be trying to show us some shit from the WW that we havent already seen.
Leo Clark
>Your piss-poor arguments aren't arguments at all Right back at you, because calling people bigots instead of disproving them is the poorest of all the pissy responses you could make. >research very simple things Explain very simple things, or are you not capable of simplifying the vast knowledge you fancy yourself to possess?
Ethan Jackson
Well serbia without the big players would be fighting against rocks and bulgarians. The point is that if you want to make a game covering most of the fronts of a complicated war such as wwi you cant miss the big players it would be like making a wwii game centered on the war without the germans.
Camden Anderson
NEVER MIND THE NEGROS!
The tanks are travelling several times their real speed in the trailers meaning the devs give zero shits about any realistic features. I'm telling you now this is gonna be shit because so far the entire selling point is of it "looking cool" rather than gameplay.
Prepare you self for a game of made up shit with a side of political correctness oh and dont forget to buy the DLC with the actual nations that did the fighting in.
Thomas Stewart
>I'm sick of retards that don't know a thing about history Man are you ever in the wrong place.
Adrian Baker
If WW1 FPS kept up after CoD went modern and got all its popularity, you might have an argument.
I really doubt the kids who get these games have played anything going that far back. It'll likely be the first exposure to the history they care to listen to.
So it's wrong AND it's making people stupider.
Adam Baker
350k divided by a little under 5 million is about 7.3%. Again, not a majority, but larger than the % of navy seals or delta forces or whatever, and larger than the "less than 1%" you claim.
Leo Garcia
>The point is that if you want to make a game covering most of the fronts of a complicated war such as wwi you cant miss the big players it would be like making a wwii game centered on the war without the germans. So like US vs Japan?
Kayden Myers
>38 million casualties >Majority are french and russian >They don't get a pretense in the SP campaign >Not even a faction in MP >US was barely even in WW1 >But yeah nah lets have you play as a black guy >0.1 percent minority of a country that accounted for 0.001 of WW1 casualties >This totally isn't meant to make us more money >It's just because we're being """""""realistic"""""""""
Grayson Allen
>African Americans were drafted on the same basis as whites and made up 13% of the draftees. By the end of the war, over 350,000 African-Americans had served in AEF units on the Western Front. However, they were assigned to segregated units commanded by white officers. One fifth of the black soldiers sent to France saw combat, compared to two-thirds of the whites. They were 3% of AEF combat forces and under 2% of battlefield fatalities.
Nice historical revisionism. That article totally isn't biased or serving an agenda.
Brandon Hall
A simple breakdown of Sup Forums:
>When Pandering is good, and never considered pandering, but instead quality creative decisions: Waifushit, Robots, Pedobait, Donald Trump, Ganking and Multipliers
>When pandering is objectively bad and a sign that the industry is dying: Anything else
Let this be a guide for you.
Asher Robinson
Yes it would be like doing a game trying to cover the entire war and only puting usa vs japan
Jacob Adams
It's 7.3%, not 0.1%. Stop being a faggot.
Ethan Carter
special forces may be small but they do the most important jobs. they are elite specialists who can change the tide of battle. can't say that about less than 10% of an already relatively unimportant group.
Jack Reed
>What is the spring offensive >what is the fact that russia was out of the war in 1917
They literally could have won if they played their cards right, but they didn't
Landon Russell
Nobody wants that though, and the massive complaints about it prove that. Even if the image of trench warfare hell is historically wrong, people want what they think this is about if battlefield sells itself on pandering to peoples expectations. Hyping people with vague promises and then going "UH, AAAKSHUALLY...!" is idiotic.