Is this the best version of MK ever created? I think it might be. What went so right?
Is this the best version of MK ever created? I think it might be. What went so right?
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I thought 9 was way better.
yes i dont get the hate for it on here
After how good 9 was, X was a pretty big insult imo.
You can't revert every bad thing that's ever happened to the series with MK9, and then throw it all away again with the next release.
What? In what way was 9 better? You contrarian faggot
Story mode was way more fun.
fuck off idiot
Bring back the friendships, that shit was fun.
Also babylities and then kill the babies
OG Cast
OG gameplay
OG fatalities
OG stages
Really I just like how it played exactly like you'd want and expect it to. No gimmicks, no bullshit, just a great 2d fighting game.
The easter eggs were perfect, the crypt screamer was cool as fuck, the tower was full of fun, and it was a new exciting concept, the story mode was pretty fun. Had OG MK games built in.
Man, just all around they hit the nail on the head with 9, and failed to deliver with X.
you sound like you hate it because of nostalgia
I'd just rather trashy trendy MOBA elements stay with that shitty genre and not get in the way of classic fighting style games.
DLC characters ruined it tbqhwyf.
I thought the roster was a bit bland desu. Also nothing happened in the story mode which was kinda annoying, since made me feel like I wasted my time. I always liked how ridiculous and stupid the MK story was. MK9 was just about perfect in this aspect.
The actual gameplay is better, but its still one of the weaker fighting games available. When it comes to competitive I rather ply just about anything else; Street Fighter, BlazBlue, Killer Instinct, etc. However when you're having a party with other real human beings who just want to punch each other in the face, you gotta go with either MK or smash. MK usually wins out as the popular choice with my group of friends. MKX was no different its been a hugely popular party game in my area.
Another thing that always kept me interested in MK was the shit ton of dumb extra content/secrets, and honestly I kinda feel like MKX dropped the ball in that aspect. There just doesn't feel like there's a lot of extra content or any interesting secrets.
Pretty good game overall though, would definitely play again.
Also don't buy Netherealm games at release. They always make you regret it.
>Is this the best version of MK ever created
that is not mortal kombat trilogy user
9's story and challenge tower was pretty good but the combat was sluggish as fuck. DA and deception was better at combat
the fuck are you talking about
how
X is better than 9as far as gameplay goes. 9 had better artstyle and story mode, but mechanically XL shits all over 9.
X was great, had a decent roster, fatalities were solid, gameplay is better paced due to increased speed, and graphics were generally an improvement.
X was bad due to taking itself too seriously, muted palettes, some modelling issues, a weak story, and the variation system is a bit flawed. 4 slots which could have been used for more MK characters were used for crossovers (only 1 IMO was a waste, Leatherface). New characters weren't showcased well. Challenge Tower replaced with daily challenges. Also, it had the worst of the WB PC ports.
Most of them are OP as fuck and are silly Warner Bros that has nothing to do with MK.
MK9 retconned the entire MK lore. the story is MK1-4 just retconning with raidens visions.
MKX story is deadly alliance, but retconned as shang tsung is in sindels spirit.
MK9 did have some great extras that X should have had like challenge tower and tag match.
I play MKX often with my friend, couch combat, it is a very fluid game.
My only issue with X is the sj=kill gap, you can make 2 mistakes in a round and get killed with 2 average combos that a mediocre player has learnt by following a vid.
The online is mainly just players who main 1 char and spam the same 40%+ combo as soon as they get it, or zone from the other side of the map.
>tfw friends suck at fighting games so can't play Guilty Gear/BlazBlue with them
modelling issues what are they and how is it taking itself too seriously you can say that about mk9 too
>Most of them are OP as fuck
only jason with spag strength and pursuit is OP, but if you learn your char you just gotta remember to kill him good and dont leave him with little health.
other than that the DLC chars are quite balanced.goro can be a fuck to play against because he is a wall with a lot of unblockable options but he is not very strong compared to other chars.
How the fuck are you gonna have Scorpion calm the fuck down? His entire character is blind rage and hatred. That's what Quan Chi used to bring him back. But now he's buddy buddy with muh nigga Sub Zero (who should be pissed as fuck that Scorpion killed his brother, regardless of the fact that Quan Chi played them both)
There were some things that seemed off, particularly with the women. It was evident in earlier builds, but the end result was okay, I think. These posts, supposedly by one of the people who worked on it, kinda hint at it.
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As for the story, in hindsight, I guess you're right. MK9 felt like an M rated version of that old MK cartoon. MKX had that focus on, "us teenagers gotta save the world," shtick. Really, the comic did a better job at storytelling. I kinda miss those threads.
This.
However,MK9 is more fun to play. Cast also shits all over the lackluster cast in MKX.
The comic leading up to the games launch was awesome. NRS really needs to let those guys write the story for the next MK game.
calm down he kills Quan Chi and release shinnok because he got mad and he stopped being mad at Sub Zero in the old games too
i dont see what is the problem with them
the guy that made them said they are canon so that might get him do do it next time
The one moment of rage he gets, he used to fuck everything up. Now we have a great cast of characters to never be seen again
>mkx sucked because the story was bad
>Mk
>story
Kek
he looks in a rage to me
MK has the best story of all fighting games, in fact it is the only one with a decent lore.
I mean could you even say why people are beating each other up in street fighter
Like I said, the one moment of rage he gets he used to fuck everything up and make sure we will never get Kabal, Stryder, Sindel, or anyone else back. All he had to do was wait five damn minutes before he decides to temporarily rage
>best story of all fighting games
>what is KOF
>what is Tekken
>what is Super Fire Pro Special
all i can tell you guy is Edenia is the best realm that that fool Kotal Kahn needs to let it go and let it be free
9 was way better. I don't think MKX is a bad game, but 9 has it beat.
If MK9was balanced one more time and the glitches were removed, it would have been even better.
>Stryder
striker.
they are all still revenants, they are in netherealm, where lui kang and kitana have taken the throne.
>what is Tekken
tekkens story is laughable, it is completely stupid. it went from an iron fist tournament to a family feud to devil genes and bosses who take up the entire screen.
soul calibur has a better story and that went fubar too
It was always about the Mishima family you doink and has not changed.
Didn't realize I said stryder.. Alright, you made me look like a dumbass so you win this one
>It was always about the Mishima family
not exactly. the king of iron fist tournament, though yeah kazuya was the "main guy" in tekken 1 and hiatchi was a demi boss.
they added the devil gene shit in after.
still the story is trash.
I love how these faggots saying 9 was better cant say why.
>it had more old stuff
Great reasoning
Agreed.
MKXL doesn't suffer from glitches like MK9 did but the system is simplified as a whole and in my opinion, it's worse. Most characters have overwhelming offense that's very simple to use. Certain characters have air attacks that are way too good. Most have normals that reach half screen or further and allow you to go straight into your braindead offense. The game lacks good defensive mechanics and has barely any defensive-minded characters or characters with good defensive tools. You have to overwhelm your opponent with offense and that's pretty much it. On defense, you just hope you guess right on a coin flip or armor out at the right time.
There are definitely more viable characters than in MK9 and I would say it's more balanced, but I still think the mechanics are way worse. Lack of glitches is a good thing too compared to MK9. I just liked MK9 way more competitively and waaaaay more fun with it.
What do you think the story should be if the Devil gene was not introduced? Heihachi wanted that power and all the power so that is why he wanted to kill Kazuya, Jin wants to get rid of it because he thinks no one should have it. The tournament is the reason for these people to fight with their giant corporations and to get other people involved. The tournament itself does nothing for the story of the Mishima family.
Before calling a story trash, try understanding what it is in the first place.
yea i like both games
>MK9 retconned the entire MK lore. the story is MK1-4 just retconning with raidens visions.
>MKX story is deadly alliance, but retconned as shang tsung is in sindels spirit.
What the actual fuck are you talking about. MK9 is MKI-III, MKX if anything is MK4 plus all the new stuff. Deadly alliance has nothing to do with it, and Sindel does not play a major part in MKX at all.
>Mortal Kombat 40
Time to lay it to rest.
He fucked up big time by turning on his new allies and possibly dooming the revenants for purely selfish reasons. Assuming the other heroes don't just forgive and forget in MK11, I'm interested in seeing where he goes from here.
>9 had better artstyle
I've never seen such stupidty before. How could anyone even think that?
I just hope Cassie, Jacqui, and Kung Jin end up getting killed in 11.
Literally the worst new characters.
Not that guy but it all looks the same.
That would be nice, but I don't think they'll let Vogel go because he's been part of the team for so long. Hopefully, they'll at least have him and Kittelsen co-write it, assuming Kittelsen isn't busy wtih anything else at the time.
it needednt be anything other than a yearly tournament, they kind of messed it up trying to make it edgy with mystical shit. soul calibur had that already with the soul blade.
i dont really care as I dont play fighting games for story but it just seems a bit OTT for me.
mortal kombat was never really known for being a defensive game. plus you can reversal to get out of situations, you dont need to armour, just gotta reversal quicker than their strings recovery frames. It doen make it a bit tougher with the designated block, injustice reversals are a lot easier.
>MK9 is MKI-III
yeah you are right my bad, i haven't played MK9 for a long time
MKX is 4, still retconned.
this guy gets it, MKX is technically a better game, but MK9 was more fun to play
nope thay are the best
I don't know how they can top this, loved the Ninjas and Raiden. Shame the PC version was such a fuck up.
>jason
>OP
>alien
>balanced
LMFAO
lets also not forget that before nerfs Tanya, predator and tremor have all won majors
>it needednt be anything other than a yearly tournament
then ignore it if you don't like it. Some of us like that it was something other than good vs evil like any game. The main characters are made up of pretty evil guys and that is interesting to see.
>DLC characters are OP
No they aren't lmao. You just aren't good. If they were OP, you would only see them in shit like EVO.
Do you not remember which MK character won evo 2016?
In MK9, there were a lot of zoning characters you could use (although some were pretty OP), or characters with good normals or specials that allowed you to play more defensively. Kabal, Kenshi, Freddy, Sektor, Noob, etc. Jumping was much riskier in MK9, and the run mechanic in MKX just throws a wrench into trying to play defensively. Few variations can truly play defensively in MKX.
Against certain characters, using armor is really all you can do and is the best option to get out of pressure in general. If your character has good frames on their pokes or a fast normal it's possible, but certain characters are at a huge advantage on block or the mixups are too overwhelming to really try anything else except armor.
Alien won EVO
>pre-patch AS Tremor
>pre-patch KJ/Pyro/Naginata Tanya
>pre-patch HQT Predator
>pre-patch Cyrax/Cyber-Sub
>Smoke
>Alien
lol
I dont play tekken anymore, I stopped properly playing after 4.
actually I stopped playing fighting games then as my friends had grown up and I went travelling. I only got back into them properly when I played injustice and liked it.
last time I played tekken (6) they had changed a lot of shit. people can counter my king grab combos now. they also nerfed his grab combos damage.
yeah tanya was OP bu only because of her teleport invincibility. I dont remember preds or tumor being op at all. actually people want tremor to be buffed.
I dont see how alien is not balanced, again people ask him to be buffed, he just has that good damage over time with acidic that can wreck you without you knowing. his other 2 styles are quite weak.
>pre-patch Cyrax
what a cunt player, you spend 25-30 secs in the air with a 46& max combo, where other combos I can get a 39% in like 7 secs.
that shit was annoying and everyone was doing it.
>tanya was only OP because of the teleport
yep that why she ran train on tournaments for nearly an entire year after the teleport nerf
>i dont see how alien isnt balanced
than you dont have any idea what you're talking about. Every top player in MKX thinks alien is aboslutly retarded. Also, only bad kids think tremor needs buffs, go watch M2dave vs any top player and come back to me
>But Takeda is okay cuz whips
He's a bigger faggot than the actual faggot
>zoning in MK9 tag team with Cyrax and Reptile
Oh man, I would literally piss off every single person I ever played.
you stopped playing at the game where it's universal agreed to the be the worst Tekken at a top level to play. Honestly it clearly shows how little you know about any fighting game, let alone Tekken, to know it well.
King has chain grabs that can take 70+ of your health and you complain about there being an option to break it? He is one of the better characters in 7, don't play him like a grappler in a 2D game, he has options.
There were a ton of broken tag team combos. Anything with Scorpion/Noob/Kabal could lead to infinites.
My favorite was Kabal/Cage. End a combo with Kabal's spin, tag in Cage, charge up his b2 unblockable, tag Kabal back in, rinse and repeat until the opponent was dead. Easy infinite.
X is mechanically better, 9 has much more content.
KP2 was a letdown.
Aside from Triborg and The Pit.
this
>Every top player in MKX thinks alien is aboslutly retarded
just because some players are better than others or better at certain chars doesn't mean there is a problem with the chars.
alien isn't exactly a super powerful char he just has shit loads of mix ups and mix up ex that he can do in a string. also that tail is kind of an off put because its a tail that does the moves rather than legs.
I dont play king as a grapler, he is a powerful brawler with counters and grabs.
his rolling death cradle could inst kill you in 4 and the only way you could get out was tech throwing the first grab.
they added loads of new grabs and ways to get out of grabs mid combo.
I'm not saying it is a bad thing just they changed the flow of the char for me.
>safe 50/50s, Launching 50/50s, NRS rekkas, DoT into restands into more DoT,1/2 screen 50/50s, excellent buttons, only 2 "bad" match ups which are maybe 5-5 at worst
>not a problem
this conversation is over
Brah top players don't know shit.
Dear god, these "some players" are the the best at the game and can actually use tier lists to the advantage because they play these games at the highest level. SonicFox has been the guy to be wnning MKX or any NRS game because he is goot at them. Some guy called Tekken Masters was kicking his ass at final match and SonicFox had to resort to using Alien, the most broken character in the game. We already know he was broken and that cemented it.
There are more ways to play King now and counters and throws are pretty beginner stuff and that is how you were using him. You are pretty much complaining about a character having more options.
i want him to get beat so fucking bad him picking that was so fucking stupid
I want Tanya to betray me!
mk4 is the best mk
fight me
so any update on the ed boon tweet about xl coming to pc maybe?
I want Mileena to kill me!
do people really like this false god
i want her to love me
>badass in the comics
>loses to 4 earthrealm kids even with the help of a merc, a symbiotic titan, a fellow arm ripper, and jobber of the year
>Tekken story
Something something Mishima family.
THE KIIENG OF IRON FIRST TOURNAMENT (again)
na he always sucked
>SonicFox has been the guy to be wnning MKX or any NRS game because he is goot at them
>implying that every good player in the world travels to tournaments or cares about recognition or money
>mfw I have a higher rank than sonicfox on PS4
I have seen sonicfox win tournament spamming kitana fans from the other side of the screen or spamming eeron blacks put up up slide/grab which is pretty much unblockable.
that is not skilled play, that is galled a dishonourable spammer.
Yet he is the only one who just takes the free NRS money. It's upto user to take him down!
It is a great game, but what I didn't like about MKX was how dark it was.
Sure, gore was always the series #1 gimmick but to me the goofy humor and colorful cartoonish graphics were just as important. MK9 was so good because it had all of that classic stuff (and every single character any MK fan ever cared about). Then MKX went all dark and serious. It's really fun to play, but it felt like a departure from the MK aesthetic, which really isn't all that grim.
Also one more thing, FUCK guest characters.
False God > Half God > Fallen Elder God > God
You know who I'm talking about and you know this to be true.
he is user
hes a faggot
a nigger
and a furry
you cant get more user than that
this fucking guy he pussyed out the moment he saw a red sky and got betrayed by somebody close to him
nigga his characterization in the game is horrible, everyone is aware of this, the fuck are you trying to prove?
you gotta help me out, who was half god again?
that he is a stupid that need to step down and put somebody else in charge
rain
forgot webm
who could take his spot, though? goro is the only other choice, and even then, that's questionable.
the best one for it
>Kitana goes dark
>Liu Kang goes dark
>Raiden is implied to go "dark"
NRS sure love corrupting good characters.