Are there any video games which throw me into interesting moral dilemmas?

Are there any video games which throw me into interesting moral dilemmas?

Spec Ops: The Line

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Do nothing, because then nobody can blame you for any death. If you pull the lever, you kill one person.

Do nothing. More importantly, make sure no one knew you were there. Escape from blame.

UNDERTALE :^)

I can't remember, but:

source on the image?

>you can do nothing to prevent...
pull the level halfway, you can't defy physics.

How does this test Autism?

The obvious answer is Multiple Track Drifting and if anyone asks why you did that, just say you thought it would do a sweet flip over the people.

>I value my good feeling above lives of four people.
>t. Max Stirner

But what if the trolley has people in it?

They don't work that way ya dingus. Once the lever hits the switch point the tracks go all the way over.

You can't have a light bulb half on by holding the switch halfway.

But by doing nothing, you're choosing to kill those 5 people.

No, he'd be choosing to let them die.
That's not the same as killing them.

>what is a dimmer switch

I knew a guy who said he'd let the 5 die, even if they were family/wife/kids, just because they he wouldn't be responsible if that happened.

He also said that football players are more likely to get brain cancer because concussions cause them.

I didn't tie those people to the track, I didn't set the train in motion. Until I pull the switch, I have not caused anyone to die.

They would be impressed by the sweet flip they experienced.

Requesting the multi track drifting edit

No, by not choosing to kill one person and saving 5 humans, you simply didn't opt out of the responsibility to decide.

If you decide to pull the lever, you voluntarily become the middleman that results in a death, ergo you would be charged with manslaughter - despite saving 5 people.

yes

Let the trolley kill the five people.
Kill the sixth one yourself.

NO WITNESSES

His choice of doing nothing would be the cause of their deaths. He could have prevented it.

nah, if you pull the switch it makes you liable for any injuries/loss of life

Do not get involved

Furthermore you are not a judge and don't have the right to decide who lives or dies

I'd take a nap.

Thinking about these things always gives me a headache.

You'd have to kill that one guy to make sure no one knew you were there.

I think Fallout: New Vegas is a good game with moral complexity. Fallout 4 tries to do it too, but in Fallout: New Vegas the sociopolitical effects of your choices are more salient.

As to the moral dilemma, plainly if you're going by utilitarian ethics (which are the only ethics that make sense to me) you should divert the train, but that's easier said than done. Do autistic people usually go by utilitarian ethics?

>law (and crime charges) is the only source of morality

>avoidance of charges is the source of morality at all

I'd say being hit by a train would be the cause of their deaths.
Additionally, 'tying them to the tracks' makes you more responsible than the person who didn't pull the switch.

Only real answer:
>lay down on track next to the 5 people
>let the train kill us all
That way you don't live with the burden of killing those 5 people.

I do a double backflip into the trolley and hit the brakes saving everyone, then proceed to get my dick sucked from the girl in the 5 people group.

The only right choice would be to pull the lever and try to pull the remaining guy away from off tracks.

What about the people on the trolley?

Blade runner. Kill em or join em

So why did he do it?

>implying you'll make it in time, fatass

The law is based upon the morality of our society, if you find it awful, then become politically active and change it. Whatever that is you want to change. Being an observer and abstaining from becomming a cog that leads to loss of life, is a perfectly human and valid choice.

Probably do nothing, then kill the lone guy. I mean, think about it, how did we get in this situation? The most likely answer: we set it up ourselves. If we set it up ourselves then we're just fucked up and want to watch people die.

>implying I won't just teleport there

I'd walk away and pretend I was never there.

Unless I knew the 1 person. Then I'd let the trolly hit the 5 people while I was untying him and feign ignorance about pulling a lever or something stupid.

If teleportation exists you might as well just flip the switch and teleport that one fag out of there, smartass

What moral dilemmas are there in NV?

Greatest good for greatest amount, even if that amount is only 1/4 of the population

That's a bit too complex to summarize in one word, however I will explain if you'll allow me.

What now?

There is such a thing as criminal negligence.

>it doesn't work that way
...yeah it does, it puts the track halfway between because its a peice of physical metal.

if not for the purposes of this mind game you could at least time it so it jams.

as for the lightbulb thing that will cause massive voltage spikes from it constantly going on and off by breaking the circuit, you will probably blow a fuse or the bulb.

>dingus
cumguzzler

Yhea man, you save these 5 people. I'm sure Tyron will like that nice little ass of yours in the shower.

Well, you can saddle a large region with being ruled by a slaver society, an autocrat with a narrow focus on "the future of humanity", an enormous nation that wants to expand for the sake of expansion, or you can try to rule it yourself. Plus there are dozens of other problems in sidequests.

There is no criminal negligence in cases where you would burden yourself with another crime or if you are forced. Law 101.

That really doesn't apply to this situation.

If it did, you're saying the law requires you to kill someone.

They're tied to the fucking TRACKS, you can't save them that way. The only way to win is to lose.

IT'S...

Kill the stranger obviously

FUCK

Then teleport the fucking tracks with it, what do I care.

This isn't a hard choice at all...

A harder choice would be like five people or a really really hot girl.

You only need the bottom half of that girl user.

It's an easy choice. The trolley would even be doing you a favor.

Nobody is going to choose one stranger over five family members, it's illogical.

Swapping them around might prove more interesting, though I think people would still pick the family member if they really found themselves in that situation.

It's human nature.

kill the stranger even if it gets me to prison.

I mean, who but a fucking sociopath would choose to let their family die?

Legally speaking, I think I'm better off not doing anything. Let the trolley kill the five people, and I'll just be an innocent bystander. No judge or jury would fault me for not wanting to directly cause someone to die. Plus you could claim that you were too dumbstruck to do anything but watch.

However, if I pull the lever they've got me for at least 2nd degree murder. Sure it was for the 'greater good' (if you treat it like an arithmetic problem, which isn't necessarily the right way to approach it.), but the family of the one guy is going to put you in jail, and sue for damages.

Depends who of the people I like more, of course.

These are moreso logistical dilemmas rather than moral ones, with the exception of Legion since they're a lot more disagreeable morally thanks to slavery and retarded archaic practices like crucifixion.

>the 'greater good'
That one guy may have been the one to solve world hunger or cure cancer though. You don't know anything about him.

Would you save 5 meth addicts to kill one nobel prize winner?

>thinking the nobel prize means anything

Sengoku Rance.

Flip them. The one person is your brother or father and the five people are strangers, preferably set up as 2 white, 1 asian, 1 spanish and 1 black.

the opposite is more 5 times more likely

Nobel prize winners are more likely to not be meth addicts and actually contribute something to society.

Or you kill one pedophile and save five scientists

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>it was for the 'greater good'
t. Josef Mengele

Pssh, Nothing Personne--*angry train noises*

Flip the switch, run to the guy, and save the guy or die trying.

Yes exactly, you don't know. So you can't judge what the "greater good" is, which was what I was originally replying to.

I need more info, maybe the 5 are niggers an the 1 is a qt?

They're not moral dilemmas in the classic sense like the train thing, but they are tough decisions that would determine the fates of broad swaths of people down the line, which taps the same thing for me. If you're interested in what happens to the people and communities you encounter, all the better.

>Your waifu is real but strapped to the tracks. If you save her, she will fall for you, but keeps the 2D personality you love. There will not be another chance to meet, never again in the history of the universe will a 2D ever become real.

>Your family is your family.

WHAT NOW FAGGOTS?!

LISA does a pretty good job of putting you in shitty situations with no obvious "correct" answer

An early choice has you choose between the life of a random party member or permanently losing one of your arms

Doing Karate can be a bitch when you just have legs and a wrecking ball of a head

If you don't choose switching to the one guy you are a fucking retarded sociopath that doesn't get how the world works.

You are choosing to let them die, you don't just drop responsibility by doing nothing

The only thing that could have had an impact is the phosphorus, and you don't even have a choice there.

Such a hollow experience.

If it's the 5 best members of my family, my family. I'm sorry waifu

Pull the lever.

Depends on how you approach the situation.

For example, legally speaking it would be best not to do anything. The moral thing to do is probably pulling the switch if you have no idea on who these people are.

kill senpai

What? The only choices in sengoku are
1. Game over
2. Continue

>you don't just drop responsibility by doing nothing

Actually you do. That's how law works

>put him to the sword and steal his soul to make him pay for all the suffering he caused
>or let him live to see if he's a changed person

Pull the switch an go die with Mai waifu.

Let's make this more complicated

Suddenly, one million dollars is in the mix.
You now have to be one of the people tied to the track.
If you choose to be one of the five, you will get 200 thousand dollars each if you do not die. If you choose to be the lone person on the other tracks, you get a million dollars if you survive.
You know nothing about the ethics of the person pulling the lever.

Which side do you choose?

>INB4 Muilti-track drifting

>they he wouldn't be responsible if that happened.
He's not wrong.

>He also said that football players are more likely to get brain cancer because concussions cause them.
Concussion -> inflammation -> DNA damage -> cancer

He's not wrong.

Your friend sounds like a pretty intelligent dude.

It has great moral choice such as

>Peek at a tripped diviner's panties
or
>Rape the diviner to provoke a war so you can cuck the leader, and steal his qt shorthaired waifu

You arent. It was the second post

This is the perfect newfag etest. Any true olfag will choose the waifu no matter the cost.

What would you do?

The Blades can go fuck themselves desu, I never understood why one would have any motivation to kill him unless they were evil fuckwads who did all the Daedric quests.

NAME SOME FUCKING GAMES

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