>15 million players >fastest selling PC game in Chinese history >Activision-Blizzard has earned their biggest financial second quarter ever, likely to end up their biggest earning year ever. >This is the same company that makes Call of Duty, Destiny, Skylanders World of Warcraft, Diablo, StarCraft, Hearthstone: OverWatch was the game that broke all their records >over $300 million just in loot box sales >overtook League in Korea as the most popular game >Major tournaments starting, ESPN already gearing up to broadcast the first major tournament.
Is there any game made in the 2010s than can compete with Overwatch?
some shitty indie game exclusively curated for the ps4 perhaps
David Mitchell
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Cooper Morales
nobody cares about your shitty attempt at humor, stop shilling this garbage on every overwatch related thread.
Caleb Ward
minecraft
Sebastian Hughes
Mei has thighs to die for! To die for!
Luke Bennett
Too bad it's fucking shit and it's being balanced by baboons.
Adam Peterson
honestly one of the only serious contenders for game of the decade besides Overwatch.
Austin Bell
yeah everyone loves overwatch so much, its why the game fall off the face of twitch after the first 2 weeks.
>inb4 overwatch fags pretend twitch isn't the esports whore center of the universe
Evan Clark
What about GTA5?
James Clark
This >Genji isn't exactly OP, but rather his counters are fucking terrible. >nerf Genji and don't buff his counters I'm mad.
Benjamin Butler
All my friends stopped playing. They played religiously the first month only to drop it completely the following month.
Logan Diaz
I actually went to Twitch and the front page is literally an Overwatch tournament.
ESPN is already getting ready to start broadcasting tournaments. League has declined in popularity all over Asia, the tourneys will start declining in numbers as more people buy the game. Also it's ranked #3-#4 on Twitch consistently next to games that have been out for years.
Joshua Butler
>open up twitch >its #4 >the main page has some tournament for it Well then Besides, twitch views ain't shit, faggot
David Morales
It didn't really translate well to viewing. Never played it but honestly it looks pretty average and I've watched a few different people play and a couple YouTubers. I just don't get the hype I guess
Caleb Ramirez
Also a bunch of YouTubers only uploaded one episode
Cameron Ward
>you are now aware that Shaq owns his own Overwatch team
>game by devs that pander to SJW casuals who wont even be playing the game in a year >game of the decade enjoy your gg filter, competitive games need the most fundamental competitive aspects removed to improve, I guess, blizzard can do no wrong
Ryder Morris
they buffed mei larger projectile hitboxes is a genji buff his ult was OP he's still fucking good as shit change to walljump was unnecessary tho
Evan Miller
Too bad this shit show is a horrible exports to spectate. Wild TTK, horribly drawn out fights that audience have no idea will benefit the objective or not. Lack of map for the audience so they are just jumping between different POV with zero idea what that current POV goal is. It is really a shitshow. Fun to play but horrible to watch.
Xavier Morales
Every single person I know who doesn't like the game always hasn't played it. Everybody I know who bought the game still plays it on a regular basis.
Just play it and you'll enjoy it and not understand why you didn't just buy the game at release.
Justin Roberts
>Is there any game made in the 2010s than can compete with Overwatch? Mass Effect 2 and 3. They both have better gameplay and better stories. Also Battlefield 3 and 4.
The only reason overwatch has done so well is because of retarded Blizzard fanboys.
Nathan Rivera
>mfw it's still extremely mediocre gameplay-wise
John Perry
the game has nothing to do with sjws
literally every character is a stereotype
they've balanced the game like 4 times already and the competitive scene is only getting bigger and bigger. latest tournament had a $300k prize pool.
>ass effect >battlefield man your opinion is shit. the game has sold overwhelming well primarily with people who never ever play blizzard games.
Jason Watson
>game of the decade is just based on sales anyway it's still probably beaten by Minecraft
Carson Price
>mass effect 3 Only has a better story because overwatch doesn't have one. If you dare say mass effect 3 has a good story, you should fuck off back to plebbit
Nolan Jackson
Needs an observer view or something, so you can watch the long drawn out battles with camera cut hotkeys to players/locations.
Jaxon White
The competitive scene is artificially propped up by blizzard. I play this game religiously but esports-wise this game really isn't meant for good entertainment. Even hearthstone is easier and clearer to spectate
Eli Jackson
>You will neverr play OW for Shaq and blast space jam when dunking in tourneys
Liam Torres
Getting the addicts from TF2 back isnt really Game of the Decade worthy. Especially since Blizz knows how to sell their drugs.
Charles Parker
Good idea for an in-game viewer. But this won't translate into a stream. Especially games with multiple high impact skills while you are only limited to a single point of view.
Adrian Fisher
Hearthstone is objectively superior.
From wikipedia:
"By September 2014, there were more than 20 million registered Hearthstone accounts."
It came out in March of that year, so unless Overwatch gets 5 million more players by December, Hearthstone beats it in growth.
From wikipedia:
"According to Superdata market research, as of June 2015 Hearthstone takes in about $20 million in revenue per month."
It has over 70 million players right now. That's more active players worldwide than WoW, Dota 2, and CS:GO combined, second only to League of Legends, which is the most active game in the world. It has the world's largest tournament prize pool, and there are more sponsors invested in it than any other game.
Brody Fisher
So far none of the tournaments have been sponsored by Blizzard and it still hovers #3-#4 on Twitch. The observer view for tournaments is a lot better than the FPS view of a streamer. I expect this ELEAGUE tourney to get over 100k viewers.
Asher Hernandez
MINEY
Adam Long
That's why it needs an observer mode for these tournaments. Where there is free moving Camera etc.
of course streams on twitch etc is just the one person playing and reacting, shittalking etc.
Alexander Roberts
Hearthstone ran into some issues recently. Namely Pokemon go which affects the casuals that play on their phone and their latest expansion has been a fucking shitshow due to their treatment of priest which has frustrated the more competitive players.
Blake Sanchez
Bait: The post
Jeremiah Jones
>You now remember that Overwatch is only 3 months old.
>5 million more by December
Wouldn't put it past the game at all. It's been out 3 months and has 15 million players, wouldn't be surprised to see it gain only 5 million more in 4 more months. If anything it will probably gain more.
it already has an observer mode and tournaments already use it.
Blake Harris
>the game has sold overwhelming well primarily with people who never ever play blizzard games. [citation needed]
Lincoln Cooper
Go will die soon, but yeah Hearthstone got hit pretty hard in the mobile market, which is it's primary demographic.
But you could also argue that would've happened to Overwatch as well, were it somehow a mobile game.
Austin Ramirez
Gta i guess
Robert Ramirez
Been trying to watch it lately and really the only reason I can understand what I'd going on on because i play the game. Still lost at what is going on half the time. Especially when the observer jumps to a genji doing fuck all while a teamfight is breaking out.
Nolan Ortiz
I thought this, I wasn't excited, I didnt get the hype, fuck.. I thought I'd never bother even buying this shit. Then the open beta launched and I tried it. I got my fucking monies worth and then some in that week alone. I preordered it after a few hours. It was easily the most enjoyment I've gotten out of a multiplayer game since BF3 and the first time I've ever been legitimately sad that I couldn't play a game, when the beta ended. Several hundred hours in and I'm not bored but I play a lot of other games at the same time. I'll admit sometimes the playerbase makes me want to kill myself but you get with every multiplayer game. If theres a way for you to try it for free, at a friends house or even rent it for cheap or whatever, you owe it to yourself to do it. Dont listen to contrarian shitters on Sup Forums. The game isn't a revolutionary master piece or whatever but its easily the best multiplayer shooter in years, easily GOTY and easily one of the best games I've ever played in my sad little life. TL;DR Overwatch good. Me like.
Carter Cook
The game appeals to the most casual audience, of course it would become popular, just look how popular CoD games were and they were as casual as it gets if anything blizzard are masters of marketing they can sell anything.
Dylan Edwards
Go will die if they don't implement more features. If they do, they will crush hearthstone which already has a high barrier for entry. The ball is in Niantic court for sure. It is up to them if Go lives or dies.
Tyler Bell
fuck you
Jackson Campbell
Overwatch also needs abit more variety or depth in their game for esports. At the moment it is simply teamfight or skirmish for a single objective over and over again. Nothing wrong with it when playing the game but when watching it, it gets tedious at times because there is little variety or depth when it comes to objectives and clear ways to approach it.
Dominic Morales
it's just simple logic
first of all the game has sold over 2 million copies on consoles. this is an audience that strictly never plays blizzard games.
secondly you have the fact that this has already been declared the fastest growing blizzard game of all time, read the article
>Activision also noted that Overwatch broke Blizzard’s previous record in China as the fastest-selling PC game in that market’s history. It was held previously by Diablo III.
>Overall, Blizzard had the biggest quarterly online player count in the company’s history, with 33 million monthly active users across all its games, up 13 percent over last year. Activision says this reflects the strength of the Overwatch launch, as well as the continuing performance of Hearthstone and World of Warcraft.
The game cause the most new account registrations of any Blizzard game and was officially announced as the biggest launch in the company's history. They didn't just win over their old fans, they won over new ones.
Benjamin Russell
The 20 some heroes isnt appealing and the gameplay videos arent astounding but it seems like theyre doing something right. Definitely looks like you need to try it before you really know what you're getting.
Leo Miller
>have over 500hours logged in quick play and competitive >out of most of my battlenet friends I've played the game the least
some of these high school kids literally have over 1000 hours. they spend their entire summer quickplaying in groups.
the biggest problem the game has to face is that it isn't casual. casuals will play the game, get raped by the other team and stop playing. it's the esparts tryhards that will keep the blood flowing. that's why some many Sup Forumsirgins hate the game: Sup Forums is notoriously casual.
James Williams
I enjoy overwatch, but esporting this game is retarded.
The meta is waiting till you have your 6 ults online and vomit them on the point. Absurd to watch.
Robert Wright
you can't say the heroes aren't appealing when PornHub literally had to announce they had a 900% increase in traffic from people searching for Overwatch porn.
overwatch has the best character design of any game i've played in years
usually i hate video game characters, or at least find many annoying.
i've come to genuinely love all 22 characters. i can't say that about any game I've played since I was a kid
the game is hard to understand viewing from fps view, especially if you don't understand the game. you have to actually play it.
if you just play the game you will understand why this is the biggest game of the year.
Ryder Sanders
>he doesn't enjoy watching 12 ults go off at once
Jonathan Ward
Once or twice? Yeah. For the tenth time? No
Aiden Peterson
>lots of active users =/= good game
Jacob Jackson
so what makes a game good? the fact that no one but you and your weeaboo friends play it? i'm curious since you've obviously not played overwatch but still think it's shit
Camden Campbell
Isn't Hearthstone free?
Zachary Collins
I played the beta and the first week on release. Game is alright but i already played too much tf2 in the past so it kind of bored me pretty fast. Also, that other user is right. It is confussing and boring to watch competitive play.
Blake Gonzalez
yes, this is the kind of shit they don't like to tell you.
every single game that's ahead of Overwatch on Twitch is a free to play game that's been out for at least 2 years or more. And I say that meaning Overwatch is #4 only behind Hearthstone, League and Dota 2.
Overwatch is a game you have to pay at least $40 USD to play and it's been out for 3 months, already eating their viewer count and player base and gaining more corporate sponsorships in the professional scene.
oh and there's already more overwatch porn than any of those games
Levi Walker
Not him but depends on what you mean by good.
Is it a good entertaining game? Yes Is it a good esports game? No Is it a good indepth and complex game? No
Blizzard set out to make a casual and fun game. I think they have achieved that. Anyone trying to pass overwatch as anything more than that is plain wrong.
Thomas Ross
So you want to buff McCree?
Gabriel Martin
if Overwatch is casual why aren't you rank 70+ in competitive?
why are there thousands of people watching Overwatch at all times?
why are there tournaments growing? why are there corporate sponsorships growing?
why are there guides all over the internet on playing overwatch heroes better?
why does blizzard have to keep balancing the game once every 3 weeks to meet with fan demands?
i will never understand the "overwatch is casual" argument.
the better team always wins.
Nolan Lopez
Overwatch doesn't have the same playerbase as any of the above games. You really think moba games like dota and lol will bleed players and viewers to overwatch? Are you stupid. It shares the casual fanbase and maybe the fps one. But really it's esports scene will bleed unless they improve the game to make it more spectator friendly.
Jack Gonzalez
I only came here to complain about Symmetra I fucking hate her hooking primary fire bullshit, and everyone that keeps picking her on the attacking team. Why have I seen so much of her lately? It's infuriating.
Easton Garcia
>Zarya with those big fat tits >wearing her tit crown
Isaiah Mitchell
Go fuck yourself. I love and play overwatch all the time but I don't think it is any better skill wise compared to all the games above it like lol dota or csgo. It is people like you that give the overwatch players a bad rep with their insistence to compare it with other games. I repeat. Go fuck yourself
Jordan Williams
it's gotta be trolling at this point, it can't possibly be the same fucking dude trying to push this retarded joke
Brody Martinez
congrats, you just outed yourself as underage for believing twitch is relevant to the gaming industry at all
Cameron Anderson
It's a mediocre FPS that was made with every popular character trope in mind to pander to every possible person when they marketed it. Speaking of marketing it, they really marketed it. Shilled non-stop on every single site I would go to, and the game didn't even look that impressive when you watched actual gameplay, especially the ultimates.
This along with Blizzard being one of the most well-known video game companies land selling the game at $40 instead of full price like other FPS titles led to Overwatch being a major success. The gameplay itself is a good stream game because of how pretty it is graphics-wise as well.
I would say DOOM 4 was a better FPS than Overwatch, but they completely fucked up doing multiplayer.
Jack Hill
>a game that's been out for 3 months that requires you to pay $40 does not have the same playerbase as 3 free to play games that have been out for over 2 years, some over 5 years.
I think you're seriously not understanding how remarkable it is that this game already gets viewer numbers similar to these 3 games. In this time next year Overwatch will likely surpassed at least 2 of these games, if not all 3.
Explain how Overwatch is casual. All of you guys continuously spout this but none of you can prove it's a casual game.
Yes I fully believe people will leave the MOBA scene for Overwatch, it's already started happening and it continues to happen. There is a spectator mode that tournaments use and ESPN is going to use it. The game continues to grow in playerbase every month by multiple millions of players.
Explain how Overwatch is casual. Also no one cares about "giving a bad rep", there's no reason you can't compare games that are team esports to one another. If Overwatch is no better skillwise than any of these games, than you admit that it's just as much an esport as any of those games.
Daniel Kelly
>that's why some many Sup Forumsirgins hate the game: Sup Forums is notoriously casual.
This is true, look at how unpopular any fighting game, any moba, and any multiplayer RTS is on Sup Forums. Those games actually require you to face a human being and match your skill against theirs, and saving and reloading won't help you. Sup Forums as a whole is a singleplayer circlejerk, because you can't get called out on your rank in a singleplayer game, allowing for endless shitposting.
That said Overwatch is extremely forgiving to casuals. The fact that you can ult and if you immediately die, you will get the full ult refunded is disgusting. Plus the hitboxes were huge, and they are reverting the nerf to them so once again any non hitscan will be the size of a small car, while Roadhog's hook is the size of a house.
All of this doesn't make the game any less competitive, your opponents have the same advantages as you, but it's pretty false to say the game isn't casual.
Aiden Johnson
>In this time next year Overwatch will likely surpassed at least 2 of these games, if not all 3.
Hahahahahahaha
William Brooks
Overtime rules are pretty much the most casual shit last time I played. If you used all your time to score, you shouldn't be given 2 minutes of extra time out of nowhere
Charles Howard
>I've watched the game and not played it
every single person who says Overwatch is shit
Yes you're right a single player fps with terrible multiplayer is a better fps than the fastest growing esport on earth
they didn't need to market the game. they let people play the open beta (which was the biggest open beta of all time) and people were so addicted to the game it presold millions of copies as soon as the beta ended.
the game markets itself. the fans market the game for the game.
Sup Forums is incredibly casual. You're completely right it's a single player circlejerk. again: how is it casual if the other team has all the same advantages you have, and the better team always wins? the worst aspect of the game was the coinflip in competitive matches and they're removing it.
>this doesn't make the game less competitive >it's still casual though
i just don't get the mental gymnastics people can do when they say "Overwatch is casual".
Jack Adams
I dont think it will. Overwatch is a fad, just like pokemon GO. If it survives that long, then i will be getting worried for real.
Nathaniel Peterson
what are you talking about? the 2 minutes of time you get for clearing a checkpoint? you realize the other team gets that too, right?
go on twitch right now. the front page is literally an overwatch tournament.
companies are investing hundreds of thousands of dollars into sponsorships and esports clubs for overwatch because it's becoming increasingly obvious this is the next big esport. Korean tv stations and ESPN are going to be broadcasting major tournaments soon. Really the biggest weakness of Overwatch is its price tag (which surprisingly, hasn't appeared to be a problem) and it's age, which is very new and still growing in playerbase by the millions with each passing month.
Aaron Collins
the only mental hangup here is the one you have where casual is the opposite of competitive. They are separate, a low skill floor doesn't exclude a high skill ceiling. Overwatch has an extremely low skill floor to let any casual have fun and feel good. That's why there are such powerful ult abilities, you could hand the game to a child and they will probably get kills with junkrat, it's just spamming LMB and the tire is pretty easy to use. It's very friendly to new, unskilled players, ie casuals. Does this mean junkrat takes no skill or he doesn't reward skill? No, it just means he has a low skill floor.
Thomas Harris
Top wee at Antone who says this game is casual. I am top 500 and this shit is try hard as fuck. I feel like the only people that say is casual are people who want to feel better about themselves being shit at the game. Go fap to your waifu while you stay rank 60, shitters.
Ryan Parker
I didn't imply I don't own the game at all. I got it gifted to me when I wasn't hyped for it at all, found it to be shitty, and then actually went back to TF2 after years of not touching that game because Overwatch was constantly being compared to TF2. Overwatch actually got me to appreciate that game more and now I play it from time to time.
The game is so big because it's a mindless shitfest that panders to every kind of player; waifufags, weebs, hatfags, edgy teens and cowadooty players, westaboos, you name it. Once you stop and play another multiplayer FPS, you'll realize how shit Overwatch is. The only reason I even have the game installed is in case one of my friends wants to drag me to play it with them, and even then I get bored after a couple of matches.
Jeremiah Rodriguez
>i just don't get the mental gymnastics people can do when they say "Overwatch is casual". Bwahahahaha That's because you don't know shit about anything, kid. OW is the most casualized dumbed down piece of shit MP FPS in the history of video-games. Mechanically and depth-wise it's a caricature of a arena FPS. The whole motto of the game is "No shitter is left behind" and everyone that defends this pos and it's dangerously bad pseudo comp mode is a shitter that gets carried through the system and doesn't even realize it. Sup Forums is fucking finished
William Hall
yes i'd really like to see the ranks of anyone who says this game is casual.
i guarantee you most people will not have fun in a lobby with rank 60+ people unless they're of a similar rank. they'll spend almost all of their time dead and the team will blame them for the loss. if a child plays this game they'll likely end up being a quick play monster who annoys people over voice chat.
you're a contrarian playing a dead game because you want this badly to be different from everybody else. Overwatch is the game TF2 wishes it could be and you know it.
if you are bad at the game you will end up in rank 30 or below. most people land in the 40s because most people aren't that good at fps games, people who are slightly better end up in the 50s and 60s.
you've made no arguments. no one gets "carried through by the system", the system ranks you based on how good you are. explain how the game is casual.
Honestly I would love to see one person make a legitimate argument.
Christopher Watson
People avoid multiplayer because the communities are full with underaged babbys who cry all day. Just look at the threads on Sup Forums.
>skill x is op pls nerf waah waah >hero y is op pls nerf waah waah >pls make game easier and change my diapers waah waah >ooh this new skin for 30$ is so shiny i want it now!! mommy gibe credit card
Fucking casul shitters ruining gaming.
Nolan Richardson
>I feel like the only people that say it is not casual are people who want to maintain the fantasy of not sucking ballz at video-games. fix'd that for ya little nigger
Angel Bailey
>TF2 >dead >if you play something that's objectively better than the most popular game, you're a contrarian
Okay, this user's either retarded or putting too much effort into his bait. Don't waste your time replying.
Nathan Johnson
it may be a bit of a grind, but i'll take this one
Anthony Gonzalez
>i guarantee you most people will not have fun in a lobby with rank 60+ people unless they're of a similar rank. they'll spend almost all of their time dead and the team will blame them for the loss. if a child plays this game they'll likely end up being a quick play monster who annoys people over voice chat.
Yes, people who are more skilled will beat people who are less skilled. That is what it means to be competitive, and I have repeatedly said that I think that Overwatch is competitive and it has a high skill ceiling. If I didn't think that, I should have been able to get top 500 this season but I only reached rank 67.
That's different from it being friendly to casuals, and having design decisions that seem to directly make the game more casual. I already listed the large hitboxes, the ult cooldown forgiveness. There's also the infinite ammo, and multiple characters that require no aiming at all. The thing I said about the child was to illustrate how simple the game is, for better or worse. You couldn't just hand the controls to a child in a moba and expect them to do anything at all. League or Dota, despite being shit on (unfairly) by Sup Forums as a casual genre, are both hopelessly complex compared to Overwatch.
Joseph Rivera
TF2 is dead. It's been dead for a while. Counter Strike and Dota has been getting more players on Steam, the only game it has more players than is GTAV, and that's pretty damn sad for a free to play game. Also the game does not even register on twitch's homepage.
Yes, Team Fortress 2 is dead. The game is old: even though it's free, people don't want to play it. The game doesn't even have half the gameplay mechanics and options that Overwatch has. The character designs are practically monotonous compared to the character designs in Overwatch. Overwatch is more popular because Overwatch is an objectively better game than the outdated and dead Team Fortress 2.
Levi Thomas
>the system ranks you based on how good you are. AAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAA
>explain how the game is casual For that I would have to ask for your FPS background first, because it's pointless like teaching a 4 year old physics. The sheer fact that you are baffled by this notion says enough already but i'll humor you son.
Bentley Turner
it's less casual than TF2. This is coming from a former TFC and fortress forever player.
Carson Hughes
Please continue not making any arguments.
Yes the system ranks you based on how good you are. I'm assuming you're shit because you have no arguments.
Explain how the game is casual. This is a conjecture you've made that has zero relevance to any FPS games I have or haven't played. Start making arguments to prove it correct.
I don't disagree that the game was designed to be accessible to newer players, but what I've noticed is you'll see the casual players always end up sticking to quickmatch after trying comp and getting raped. So you have quickmatches where people mostly just fuck around and comp matches where people play seriously and are ranked by skill.
Cooper Torres
>game launched 3 months ago >Blizzard has done like 4 balance changes >McCree and Mercy are basically boomerangs and just get nerfed and buffed and nerfed and buffed
Jace Evans
this is how most competitive games always start out though. There's always a period where the developers now have these masses of people playing the game creating data for them to look at and figure things out with. I expect they'll keep patching the game well into next year before things are relatively smooth across the board.
Kevin Lee
the bait literally gets funnier every single time i see it
Ryder Brooks
I was rank 18 but managed to climb back up to rank 28.
What are my hopes for getting into tournaments?
Caleb Barnes
I can tell. you're just a Sup Forumstard baiting for replies on Sup Forums because you probably got banned from your home board for making retarded posts.
If you aren't, enjoy shilling your turd game with shit balance and SJW playerbase and devs. You can't fix shit taste.
Julian Parker
Because it's true that Team Fortress 2 is dead and no one cares about it? I admit it: it is pretty funny!
Jaxon Morgan
>1v1 ELO win/loss system in a heavily team-based, dangerously casualized FPS with complete non-skill based random matchmaking. >skill based Everyone that is not a complete shitter is laughing at this game and it's "ranked" mode in particular. Literally everyone. Hell you don't even need to play it, just knowing that and simple math is enough. Sup Forums IS casual as fuck and also dumb as fuck because it's 90% kids.
Julian Reyes
how do you get below rank 40? I'm genuinely curious.
Christian Perez
It is an overwatch tournament on the front page because literally every other major game is on a break. You really think overwatch will get the million viewers to beat csgo dota or lol
Nicholas Lopez
I'm confused, is that image supposed to convey Trump in a negative or positive light? Because I get the feeling it was made by a hyper leftwing turd but the argument it conveys makes Trump seem like the logical one.