>Danganronpa suddenly ends as anime and not a game >Monokuma said that third mutual killing game is broadcasted worldwide >in the last episode Togami said, that nothing is broadcasted >Mitarai is creating anime and he is somehow connected with Junko as we know after last Despair arc episode
So
>the third game is broadcasted worldwide but in OUR world as a anime created by Mitarai, showing us, how incompetent the Future Foundation people are, how the really good and kind characters are dying and how there is no future for this world
It's stupid. "It's an anime" is stupid. They got away with "it's a simulation" because it was a small scale thing.
Bentley Jackson
I hope it doesn't turn out to be something lame like that.
William Long
Whole Danganronpa is stupid but in a fun way.
Nicholas Brown
Will V3 top Hopeman's wild ride?
Hudson Moore
Well, remember that Chisa is also watching the Despair Arc events in a movie theater and talking to us, the audience. Maybe Despair Arc is the one that is an anime that was shown to the world and inspired The Event?
At this point, I would accept "Despair Arc is an anime in-universe", "Future Arc is an anime in-universe", "both arcs are an anime in-universe" and "neither arcs are an anime in-universe" as a viable explanation.
Brayden Brooks
There is for sure some ruse incoming but we can't be certain which one so it is making things even more interesting.
Eli Johnson
Yeah but when you retroactively invalidate everything with something like that ("it was all a dream!", etc.), it's not fun.
Carter Carter
I doubt there can be another absolute madman, but we can HOPE.
Hunter Long
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Kodaka worked out that for his ruses to be the most effective, he has to obfuscate them by throwing out as many red herrings as possible. He spent the first games establishing that any sort of crazy bullshit could happen, now we see crazy bullshit behind every corner, and that makes the actual crazy bullshit that much harder to spot ahead of time.
Connor Walker
I am kinda happy that this time we got anime because you can talk with people about it during the run, without danger for spoilers.
And we are going to get new game as well so nothing is lost.
Sebastian Edwards
Fun little thing: In the opening of the new Despair Arc episode a bunch of things changed, like SDR2 cast receiving red (despair) eyes, excluding Chiaki of course.
Also colour palette changed for everyone, excluding Chiaki again, but color of Chisa changed too. Maybe she was too somehow infected with despair. Maybe most if not all of Future Foundation are, and looking how they act, it wouldn't be surprising.
Leo Murphy
Chiaki is now smiling as well.
Jaxson Gray
future arc has red blood but the despair arc still has the pink blood. I feel like this is going to be important eventually
Nathaniel Gutierrez
That should be something that goes on the "Despair Arc is an anime but Future Arc isn't" pile, since an in-universe anime would need to go through in-universe rating agencies that maybe don't like red blood.
Cameron King
...actually, hang on, I've got that in reverse. The games would have established that people in Danganronpa-land bleed pink, and as such, an anime that censors things would have to change that color, maybe to something less bright, like a darker shade of red.
Zachary Harris
but the games have pink blood so shouldn't it be the other way around? the in-universe ratings don't like realistic (pink) blood and make them "censor" it to red? unless that means everything has been an in-universe anime or some shit from the very beginning and future arc is the first one that isn't
Jaxson Roberts
Fuck it, I bet a snail is responsible.
Ian Jenkins
>It's yet another autist blows easter egg out of proportion episode
Ryder Morales
Yeah, there's only a few reasons why there's different shades of blood color in the two animes, and the prime one is that one of the two consists of actual events, and one consists of an artistic creation of some kind.
So Future Arc being an in-universe anime makes sense. Kind of.
I mean, consider this: For the events of Future Arc to make sense, you need backstory, and a lot of it. So the in-universe people need that backstory, and it only makes sense that the events that happened in the games, novels and Despair Arc actually happened in that universe. So doesn't that mean that the world has completely gone to shit? Who the fuck is still going to be keeping a ratings agency running? It would make sense if Mitarai was just working off of old habits and censoring the blood because he's always had to, but otherwise, that's pretty confusing.
The differing shades of blood have always been a thing that has been nagging me all this time, and this is the first time I've really started thinking about why it could have been done instead of writing it off as "just another stupid thing in a DR related medium". There's a twist incoming with that, but I couldn't tell you what it could be.
Jason Baker
I assumed it was an easter egg but Junko picking up animator and saying its destiny they meet with as much passion as she had for Izuru makes me do a double take, maybe like how junko has a second ultimate talent of analyzing he has a second talent of future sight that he is un aware of and he is actually drawing things he doesnt know are real
Eli White
You forgot that Kodaka is making this, so anything is possible.
Adrian Morgan
Originally the blood being pink makes sense because the characters cant comprehend the violence so they mentally block it out with a friendly color but in the future arc they are now adults but in the despair arc we are going to be seeing things from Chisa's point of view... an adult, so why pink?
Nathan Carter
Remember Twillight game in the SDR2? There was a actuall photo of killed girl and in-game art of it. And characters reacted, like the in-game art is the real photo, and "real photo" (for us) was the fake one.
It can be the same with the blood, pink is "real" blood, and red is "consored" blood, so it's different, how we perceive it.
Andrew Ross
yeah that was more unsettling to me than anything else in the episode for some reason
Angel Reyes
We can see in Killer Killer that many companies are still operating as usual, so not every part of the world has gone completely to shit.
Mason Long
>in the last episode she will turn to reveal that her face is in blood
Jeremiah Rivera
>Hopeman had a 1/6 chance of survival when playing russian roulette >There was a 1/6 chance of the traitor throwing the fire grenade How can a keikaku be this perfect
Justin Myers
Hm, I'll have to read that at some point. I was largely basing my idea of what the post-Event world was like on AE and Towa City being one of the less fucked up places.
Jacob White
>So doesn't that mean that the world has completely gone to shit? In UDG it's revealed that the Tragedy has actually almost passed and that the despair side was losing, that's why pickle hitler orchestrated the events of the game to try and restart the war. It's implied that at the very least, the world has not gone to shit and was recovering somewhat.
Luis Baker
why is there so much extra shit in the DR universe? it's so hard to keep up with everything. and the animes are showing us that things we thought might not be important/canon (UDG, Zero) actually do matter
Blake Campbell
It is an anime.
Are you going to argue that you have been watching a western animation instead?
Julian Sanchez
I guess I'll have to replay - or watch - AE, because it seems like I'm misremembering things. I really thought there was the implication that Towa City, even with the death robots, was less bad off than the rest of the world.
Landon Torres
>Weedman's novel might become relevant and an important plot point for the ending
Mason Myers
>complaining about extra content
Bentley Nguyen
I don't mind extra content so much, but the problem is so much of it isn't brought over or fantranslated and it's difficult to keep track of it all. if they kept putting these things in the games as bonuses like IF was I wouldn't mind so much
Thomas Martinez
This is something that scares me. I looked at "Ultimate Despair Hagakure" and decided that I absolutely wanted none of that shit, and I'm sure many people thought the same thing.
Fanservice is good, but there's a tough balancing act between fanservice and servicing so much that only a small group of fans will even be able to keep up. Hell, I thought that AE might not have made it into the anime plots because it had a more limited exposure than the two main games.
Kayden Phillips
Just look at the wiki and read up for the stuff that isn't translated. A decent amount is translated though.
Not a really good excuse.
Kayden Smith
was junko having SHSL analytical skills ever mentioned in the games or is that purely from Zero?
Ethan Moore
Pretty sure it was just Zero
Brody Lee
For that matter, was the "having SHSL analytical skills means that I can basically see the future, making everything boring, only the chaos of despair can bring any actual excitement to my life" motive ever brought up before? Seems like that's quite a step away from the "LOLDESPAIR" we all know.
Juan Barnes
That wasn't implied, it was straight up said that Towa City was relatively unaffected by the tragedy because Towa corp funded the Tragedy Guns of the Patriots style.
However, late in the game (I think it was during Monaca explaining her evil plan) it's stated that the side of despair was losing the war because Junko was dead and Towa was no longer funding the war. The general implication I got by the end of it was that the world had recovered just enough (or was not destroyed enough) to not be post-apocalyptic at least.
I mean, I could be missing out something but to me UDG clarified the state of the world better than the previous two games did. DR1 made it seem like a post-apocalypse, DR2 made it seem like a post-apocalyptic dystopia where only the Future Foundation survived, UDG now makes it seem like a modern World War situation which is not quite as bad as I thought it would be.
Juan Gonzalez
It being an anime would be dumb as shit and would only be worse when you realize that they did the same shit with DR2 and the simulation.
Alexander Bailey
I think that was new. though honestly it's marginally better than the old LOLDESPAIR motive, but not by much
Sebastian Davis
I mean, I know that Towa City was unaffected by the Tragedy because of reasons, but I felt like somewhere around there was an implication that "Monokuma death robots roaming the city hunting down adults in what is basically open war" Towa City was still not as shitty a place to live as the areas that actually did get hit by the Tragedy.
But like I said, I'm probably completely misremembering that, since both AE and Future Arc are hitting the "Despair side is losing hard" plotpoint.
Evan Kelly
The lack of monokuma and cases makes future arc be shit, though it got better last episode
Andrew Perez
It's a media franchise user. So far UDG and Zero are the only things needed (the anime is basically UDG2 now, and one character from Zero was seen in the background and some more minor ones showed up in the last one I think).
Dude, fuck you. UDHagakure is fucking short and not really that much happens, you can read all of it in under an hour. All you need to know is that Hagakure was at Towa city during UDG so he may know who Monaca is, and this girl Kanon if she ever shows up has a grudge against FF but she's still a good person at heart.
So far as long as you've played all the games then you're fine for the anime (Zero isn't a firm requirement yet, just cameos from minor characters). The series' main platform is the Vita so if you're a PC secondary then boo hoo, this is what you get for being late to the party. It's like if they made a new Bayonetta anime that continues the story and people are like "OH THIS IS BULLSHIT BAYO 2 WAS ON SUCH A NICHE PLATFORM NOBODY PLAYED IT IT SHOULDN'T BE CANON".
Jose Moore
junko being a SHSL analyst is from zero and it's coming up in despair arc, so it's more than just bread boy's cameo now
Juan Fisher
Well, what I got out of it was that "Monokuma death robots roaming the city hunting down adults in what is basically open war" was what the rest of the world was facing but they aren't any longer because Towa isn't funding the death robots, which is why Monaca sets them loose on the city in revenge. Also the fact that Mr Towa was okay with funding the war implies that there's enough of the world remaining that he can use the profit from it After all, he was doing it to get money from both sides. It implies enough of the world is left that money is still being used as it used to be
The state of the rest of the world has always been pretty vague (by design in the first game), so I don't blame anyone for getting confused. Like, the fuck was with the whole poison gas thing? Even in UDG it's implied to be some global problem but they also state that Towa makes the air purifiers and it doesn't seem to be a problem in Future Arc with Weedman stuck outside with no problems from toxic air.
The analyst thing could've been inferred from how Junko is in the other games, but if the actual plot of Zero comes up then yeah that is a shitty thing. DR0 was never officially localized if I recall, so it wouldn't be fair for english audiences to keep up with the anime (unless they intend to re-tell the events of the story).
Henry Lewis
May sound strange, but one thing I really love about this anime is the intros.
>Music starts playing just before the intro itself starts as a lead-in >Intros gradually change as the series progresses >Music and visuals are just awesome in both
Those intros make my dick rock hard.
Adam Roberts
So I just finished AE How should I watch the animus? Watch each arc in one go or alternating after each episode?
Brayden Hill
This one's kind of obvious but Hajime is also fading out of existence in the intro
Owen Martinez
despair-> future, alternate episodes
Nathan Jackson
wait fuck I got that backwards, future and then despair
Benjamin Sanchez
Despair or Future? Future info gets me hype, despair gets me comfy
Kayden Cook
Future is the one that came first so I guess it makes sense Thanks user Have my rarest Junko
Levi Carter
>UDHagakure is fucking short and not really that much happens, you can read all of it in under an hour.
I don't know that going into it. All I know is that it's a story centering around Hagakure, who I can't stand, and it will require time and effort to read that could just as well be spent playing other games.
As of right now, DR1, DR2, AE and Zero are directly relevant in some way (with Junko's SHSL analyst powers coming up directly, something that was never even remotely mentioned in the games, we've crossed the "only relevant for easter eggs" point), and it only seems like they're going to be bringing up more shit as time goes along. Maybe Killer Killer is suddenly going to become relevant? It's a totally viable option, as the series loves to get hung up on references to past material all the time.
>the poison gas thing
THAT'S what I was thinking of all this time! That the outside world was largely fucked because of it and Towa City was fine because of the purifiers. It just kind of got brought up occasionally, then completely dropped, and nobody really knows what's going on.
I mean, it could work with Future Arc because the facility they're in is on some remote island that's way the fuck in the middle of nowhere, so poison gas not getting there makes sense.
Adam Rodriguez
Fuck you and your daily anime threads.
Gavin Phillips
Look at this crybaby, look at him and laugh.
Andrew Torres
I think the endings are far better I'm gonna miss it when this one is replaced with despair and new song youtube.com/watch?v=lBDiV2kSaN4
Grayson Rogers
Joke's on you, I did it for lelele desbair :^)
Luke Flores
Fug :DDD
Xavier Stewart
Surprisingly UGHagakure made Hagakure a little bit more likable as a character. Still don't like him as much as others but he got some character development
Grayson Reed
>most recent despair op >colors darker >everyone's eyes red >Hajime fading >Chiaki smiling
I'm getting chills
Brayden Cox
Why is Izuru back, what happened to FUTURE
Aaron Wright
not to mention some of the upskirt censorship
Xavier Long
>Future foundation trying to destroy an island with hopeman on it The question now is if a tsunami or typhoon will happen to start
Matthew Thompson
Both, each in the manner you describe. Might have been silly to use "make my dick rock hard" to refer to both, but you get what I was saying.
Logan Bell
bait & switch
honestly I dont see this playing out well, either you invalidate DR2's finale or you expose it as a lame cliffhanger going nowhere
Julian Davis
>The theory that everybody reverted to their despair selfs and merely pretended to be normal to trick FF might be true Glorious
Justin Butler
Izuru is gonna have some "change of heart" bullshit at a pivotal moment (i.e. before he kills someone) and Hajime's personality will start to surface again.
Jacob Young
This series is bad. The artsyle is the worst part of it.
Joshua Foster
My memory is terrible, but wasn't the idea that the person that woke up from the coma was Izuru, who then chose to be more like Hajime instead? That would mean that while he would try to be an actually good person, he probably wouldn't hesitate to go full super-talent if necessary. And a fleet of ships threatening to murder his friends seems like a point where it's necessary.
Josiah Reyes
He's going all out
Charles Myers
the artstyle isnt that good though the games do a great job of hiding that fact by very striking poses, but the anime exposes the major sameface
Oliver Jenkins
does super luck still work when you're braindead or whatever though?
Charles Gonzalez
Sameface no, but same eyes I'll give you that, sometimes. The second game is way better about that.
Parker Murphy
All this fucking time I was telling people that he woke up as Izuru that decided to change his ways a little and everyone were sperging out how >hurr durr ending was stupid because there were not suppose to return to their normal selfs
And they never returned senpaitachi
Oliver Reyes
Hajime, including the DR2 survivors, woke up as SHSL Despairs, however, they kept their memories from the programs. That's why they chose to stay in the island.
Hajime also said he decided to keep on living as Hajime Hinata.
So in a way, you could say Hajime and Izuru are just the same person now.
Levi Gray
DR2 ending pretty much says that the odds of them waking up are low but it is possible If his luck is the real deal he should be totally fine
Easton Mitchell
The analyst thing you could infer from how Junko's personality clearly doesn't match up with her being a fashionista (like if they out of the blue started calling Komaeda Ultimate Hope, even if it was referenced in something it's still obvious enough you could get away with not explaining it), but yeah if they start going into the events of Zero more then that's completely unfair the the english audience since DR0 never got an official release. It's not like the anime is only for Japs either since Funimation is dubbing it.
I mean I guess I agree that the required reading might get too much. If it was just the video games then that's fine, real fans should be playing all the games at least. But for like LNs and Manga and whatever that never got localized, that's completely unfair.
Also I never fully understood the poison gas thing because as you said, they talk about it a lot in all the games but we never really see it have any effect. I feel like that entire aspect of the setting could be removed without changing anything in the story.
Eli Rodriguez
Probably. With all the bullshit his luck is capable of, I highly doubt a coma would stop him.
Angel Price
>we only saw one eye >yfw he's half despair half HOPE
Aiden Baker
No, sameface too. All the females (and fuckboys like naegi or the animator) look pretty much alike. Like I said, the games hide it well, but the anime exposes it big time.
Tyler Gray
The only sameface I see there is Asahina and Chisa.
Jaxson Peterson
I had a big argument with some retard about something along these lines.
It's absolutely true that DR2 left enough to interpretation that it very well could've been Izuru who woke up and decided to be more like the Hajime he remembers. That said, DR2 gave the intentional impression that it was more Hajime that woke up because of the changed appearance, Hajime's name appearing in the text box and him speaking like Hajime and not like Izuru's monotone "this is boring" talk.
I still believe nothing in DR2 contradict what we see in Future arc, but there was definitely a bait & switch (retroactive or not) in that it implied one thing but then reveals something that goes against that implication, even though the facts were left open for either to be true.
Personally, I think it's gonna be a Toko/Genocider style split personality thing.
Bentley Harris
get your eyes checked
Matthew Flores
It could very well be a false implication like Asahina's faked death, next episode could be just as cheesy as Hajime being like "This is boring... being stuck on this island, I can't wait to get out there and help my best friend Naegi save the world from despair! Oops, forgot to take out my red eye contacts!"
I mean it's either that or Chiaki died for nothing all is despair
Jeremiah Howard
Get your brain checked. You're whining about anime conventions in a thread about an anime sequel to an anime-style video game series.
Brody Cruz
I have, it's like 15-30 or something, don't remember.
Wyatt Walker
No.....he has a point, in this one Yu and Yoi look the same save for haircut.
Still though, I said 2's cast is varied and he posts 3's
Isaac Ward
>"This is boring... being stuck on this island, I can't wait to get out there and help my best friend Naegi save the world from despair! Oops, forgot to take out my red eye contacts!"
And HOLY SHIT LOOK AT ALL THOSE BOATS I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE!
Kevin White
What you perceive as a prevalence of sameface doesn't excuse it.
Gabriel Robinson
Huh, I see it.
Jace Murphy
>tfw the anime made the entirety of DR2, ending and all, pointless
So, this is... despair...
Xavier Bailey
Not even the guy you were arguing with, you're just being pedantic because you have a hateboner for the series for some reason. Fuck off.
Aiden Watson
>beta bitch boys have full eyes like the girls >all the real men have glares
Jayden Harris
Even as a big DR fan, the entire series has a terminal case of sameface I admit. Like at this point I bet there's a stencil or something.
Personally though, I've come to see it as part of the artistic style of the series. I really liked how the first game was set in the real world yet presented in such a crazy pop-art way with neon colors and shit. I kinda thought of it as "is it trying to say that everyone is actually the same and like our clothes, ultimate abilities are just a flimsy excuse to try and say we're better or worse than others?"
I mean yes I realize I'm rationalizing the artist being shit but... I like it...
Jordan James
Paranoid much? I love the series and I'm not being pedantic, I'm just not so insecure about the stuff I like that i have to pretend it's flawless.
And again, the style works very well in the games because you can avoid these same expression comparisons by using sprites with striking poses, but in the anime where you're gonna have a bunch of "neutral" frames, it's obvious there's a lot of sameface going on.
Brody Kelly
Nobody's pretending it's flawless, all I see is some pretentious faggot whining about artstyle in an attempt to derail legitimate discussion.