Overwatch VS TF2

m.youtube.com/watch?v=eP45nc2_st8
How can one man be so wrong?

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>Blizzard creates a good game
>decides they want to control every single aspect of it instead of letting the players improve it
I fucking hate blizzard so much. Overwatch could have easily been the new tf2 but they had to ruin it

> THEY'RE ALL WHITE MALES!
> FUCKING WHITE MALES!
The spirit of carl the cuck lives on in every "progressive" nu-male

>"Overwatch has higher mobility and skill ceiling"

>Overwatch has higher mobility and skill ceiling
kill me

no way in fucking hell im watching past the intro

also
>m.youtube.com

fuck outta here phoney faggots

This is from matpat's steam profile

>Literally who? e-celeb has a retarded opinion
In other news: water is wet.

just think about it.
they're saying Overwatch requires more skill than QuakeWorld.

>The cast being majorly white is a valid argument on why the game is bad

>they're all white males

Team Fortress is shit though. If you're denying that you're just being contrarian and you should leave.

They didn't deduct points, but it's still a shitty argument.

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>overwatch has a higher skill ceiling

Because why would you keep playing a shitty game?

>Overwatch has no KDA

why are people playing this again?

>judging a game with 9 classes each with several play styles by playing it for 40 minutes

It's an FPSMOBA and casual as fuck.
That's like crack for most 'gamers'

I have to wonder if Matpat even plays video games

First impressions are everything, user.

the video is retarded
unfunny and retarded
also tf2 is way better

>Overwatch has life regen
Please tell me this is a joke.
PLEASE

>turning a community developed exploit into an in-game feature is bad

>I know so little about overwatch I can't even read the UI but IT'S SHIT

I never said this. But I see health regen on that video.

No it doesn't, besides Mercy and anyone who has regenerating shields like Zarya or Symmetra.

Oh so it's regenerating shields. Still pretty dumb mechanic to a supposedly competitive fps but ok.

You don't because you are looking at the Ult meter and not the health

>Ult meter
There's ulti? What the fuck is this a moba?

youre right, and now we all you know have shit taste

what rock did you crawl out from?

In case you're wondering the hero in that webm (Pharah) doesn't have regenerating health or shields either. A character's health is on the bottom left of the screen while the ultimate meter (at the bottom) builds up constantly but will build up faster if you deal damage or do whatever your character's intended role is.

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Problem with TF2 is that the userbase is largely composed of 10 year olds without critical thinking

is that your counter argument?

>mattpat

So we're pretending the Overwatch crowd is only mature gamers 18+?

>implying it isnt more popular than tf2

>tfw christmas will result in an influx of sub 16 yo little shits showing up on the network
I'm already starting to see the community turn to cancer, as opposed to when everyone was friendly on launch, but it's going to be so, so much worse.

>air control
you mean air strafing?

@349059438
>counter argument
Why should I bother with counter argument when you're shitposting about a game you know nothing about ? Not even worthy of another (You).

>counter argument

There is no argument occurring here, we are debasing you for your ignorance and being out of touch.

Apparently you also do not know what an argument is either.

It's already approaching League levels of cancerous as it is, especially since both the competitive and casual sides have temporarily merged until Season 2 starts.

>Giving views and ad money to the SelloutTheorists

Why?

yes the source engine foundation is idtech so certain things carry over

>tf2
>9 year old game being worked on by a team or 5 people who don't even play the game anymore

vs

>overwatch
>a fps with idiotic design choices like giant hitboxes to appeal to consolefags, and is being balanced by a bunch of morons who don't understand why some characters are good

Shit

Overwatch is very wide but shallow, it's a game where you'll be able to roll with pro players in 1k hours rather than 4-5 like TF2

>Wanting KDA in an objective based game
This is why TF2 is jampacked with spies/pyros/snipers on every team.

All the points for doing fuck all.

Not even defending Overwatch here but TF2 should at least reduce the points for those three and put a lot more points on objectives and assisting with objectives.

YOU'RE

As someone who quit TF2 for OW, this is the most retarded video I've seen in a while.

So what?

It's not like it came out of my wallet.

So is COD, is COD a better fps too?

A

WHITE

TRANS

BREAD

MUSLIM

Agreed, this merge is horrible.
If it's not having to deal with the QPfags, having to play Lucio while we have two Hanzos, two Meis and a Genji, it's having to listen to the compfags discussing their shitty meta and taking the game super seriously and getting mad and shittalking etc.
It's either hot or cold with the Overwatch community. I just want a game with people who want to win and play well but don't give a shit if they lose, damn it all.

>and is being balanced by a bunch of morons who don't understand why some characters are good
You can say that about every single blizzard game

BIG

GUY

and?

Who is this slut

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Most old pro TF2 players have moved to OW. The TF team at Valve have largely moved on and what remains is a bunch of retarded interns breaking things here and there.

It doesn't matter if TF2 has custom anything, since the introduction of forced sv_pure Valve servers means only the official maps are played ever. The community servers are fucking dead or filled with Pinion shit.

It's 9 years old now, and the huge lack of understanding Valve has on how the competitive side of the game sealed its fate. Let it die.

>@349059438
You're not from around here are you?
So you have ultis that you get overtime and then you have to charge again but it's not a moba. It's a regular fps like every other?

user I love you

>Play overwatch for a month
>get tired something is weird the game isnt that good

>Play some Tf2 after a 2 year hiatus

oh i guess team fortress 2 is a bit better

And that is not a valid criticism, since it works great for all their other games

Nah, I'll continue having fun, thank you.

I love you too

Fuck off to GameFAQs or something if you don't know shit about a game, or go to sleep if a game that isn't an ASSFAGGOTS having abilities/ultimates is inconceivable to you and is wracking your brain.

Valve won't let it die, its making a crazy amount of money still.

I'll say that, while Meet your Match was fundamentally broken on release, I do generally like a lot of the balance changes the team made. There are a couple that feel a bit pointless, like the Widowmaker "buff" but everything else was great.

They should just outsource the game to another company at this point, no one at valve wants to work on it anymore.

I honestly dont care what people think abkut the two games. I'm still having fun with tf2.

Valve doesn't care about TF2

Why are you so insecure about this game you like so much? It's almost as if you're not really sure about it and asking questions is triggering you.

TF2 is still shit and no one here can convince me otherwise, i left because the end game was basicly hats and trading. Never again

That's not a fair assessment. They still care, it's just that they're a little incompetent. That described everything about Valve these days.

They love and respect their modding community, but they were kind of idiots who thought paid mods would reward their modders. They wanted to make a streamlined experience for online game purchases, but at no point did they think that refunds would be a good idea until coaxed into it by european consumer laws. And so on.

I think if they hired more people and Gabe stepped away from the Snack bar for a few minutes, the company would be in far better shape. Not money-wise, of course. They print money on hats.

>they still care

If they did they would have listened to their Beta Testers about everything wrong with Meet your Match. But they didn't.

>we all you know

I'm not the same user you think you're replying to, manual-breather.

I'll tell you one thing though: you fit the bill for the sort of retarded shitstain Blizzard designs their games around. I almost can't blame them anymore knowing there's probably others like you.

TF2 is basically cancer.

Why people still play it is beyond me. I actually feel sorry for them.

They listened though. It's just that they don't know how to optimize the critique they got. They're a little slow in the head, so these things take time.

I think MyM has since become a good update. Is it flawless? Hell no. But it's alot better than on release. I actually like casual over quickplay, and competitive is pretty cool. Now Valve just needs to pull a Redigit and properly compress the game files so the program will run better and not take up 50 gigs on my hard drive.

>quirky gamer humor overflowed with extremely outdated image macros
>this shitty """""acting""""" with this poor quality of mics
please kill me

>white males

>open video
>hear matpat
>close video

>most old pro

Who gives a shit about "pro" players? I bet you also watch that Kardashian show.

Overwatchs maps are about quality not quanitity

They moved the goal post, unusual weapons and killstreaks are the newest thing.

So now common consensus is that tf2 is a good game?
Yet again Sup Forums has to scramble back on its own opinions to her contrarian in response to something new.

I have never seen anyone miss the point of a post so hard.

>Implying ow's majority 15 yr old waifu baited teens aren't worse

>tf fags are still mad

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>hot girls
why is valve so against adding hot girls to their games. its the same with league vs dota 2

still waiting for that price drop. delicious $25 overwatch would feel good. i aint payin $40 for that shit tho

Dota 2 has hot girls, but just not to the degree of league. While league is close to 100% anime hot girl crap, at least dota 2 tries to have varied styles and creatures. The season being a result of the wc3 art assets and design decisions.