Valve killed TF2

When will people stop pretending like it's the TF2 community or it's that people like the "bad" fps Overwatch, and actually accept it's Valve that has killed TF2

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Just so people on this board understand and OP as well


TF2 is nearly 10 years old

the game died at least 5 years ago at that point it was surviving off custom servers as many valve game typically do.

This whole fasincation with TF2 comparing it to overwatch is so weird to me because they are both different games with class based features.

I've been playing this game since day one and never in my autistc group of friends that play this game and I still talk to have ever compared the two games but they do play overwatch.

Why are blizzardfags so insecure? and if it isn't blizzardfags, who is it?

>game with 60k people playing regularly, with 40 k playing in the wee late hours when the idlers and children are asleep
>"killed tf2"

Yeah look at all those new Tf2 media coming out like the comics. Oh wait

>games survive off media

Plus all those regular updates and Valve really getting those important game-breaking bugs like invisible players and other stuff that can be easily fixed. Haha yeah so alive

>game that's constantly updated with no valve and community made content
>with the new competitive mode that's already been patched to hell, fixing most of the launch problems
>along with new weapons for the pyro and heavy

"Dead".

I stopped playing tf2 when I realized it was full of white males

It's both communitys albiet tf2 whines more about it for some reason, probably the beloved youtubers are making less content about it, I don't think so but alot of hate towards overwatch too.

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>new weapons
Yeah after about 2 fucking years

>dev supports their game for 9 years
Wow Valve, way to abandon your everything

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I'm a Valvefag and I'm asshurt over how much the design philosophy for Valve has changed. It's not even TF2, it's Dota 2 and it's entire focus on the competitive scene and everything focused on community made microtransactions.

Microtransactions that look fucking awful, I might add. I just love seeing every Invoker with this stupid shit.

While I don't think Tf2 is dead
>Comp
>"fixed"
That's a lie and you know it, most of the fixes were minor shit compared some of the huge ass problems it currently has
>b-but they'll patch it soon
TF2 Comp was in beta for six months and they made ZERO changes effectively meaning they basically released a shitty unfinished game mode and system. It shouldn't have most of these problem in the first place.

I love Tf2 but fuck Valve, they'll be the death of this game if they continue being this lazy and incompetent.

>community made microtransactions
>Microtransactions that look fucking awful
Are you really that stupid?

After all that crap about art consistency I don't want to believe that it was Valve designing this shit. Again.

are you implying the community made items can't look like complete fucking garbage

>constantly updated
Don't even pretend.

>game needs le ebin machinama meme videos to be considered "not dead"

underage faggot

At least that has the excuse of being Halloween exclusive.

This sadly does not.

Tell me you aren't serious.
>Microtransactions that look fucking awful
>Microtransactions
>look
It's like saying that I ate capitalism today.

What the fuck else are these games getting? What kind of new content can I get without paying for it?
All the new shit for the internationals was compendium exclusive. No wonder it made so much goddamn money.

Are you an idiot, you have to pay for halloween keys + other shit to get those items, with the exception of the rare (non tradeable) shit they give you.

TF2 lived a good life, almost a full decade, sometimes you have to let an old game go. Valve never intended to reinvent the wheel this long.

If you want a game that's being killed by it's company instead of the competition, that's LoL. DotA was never even on their radar despite what inferiority complex shitposting comes out of the vocal few. What killed the game was Riot's bad practices for the last 3 years and pissing off a lot of their playerbase, for example, Dynamic Queue and the bad PR surrounding it. Look at LCS viewership numbers this season, they're down over 50%. The datamining match history sites also say matches played are down like 58% in S6 compared to summer in S5.

What the fuck are you talking about, my point is that "Microtransactions" is not a fucking item it's a process/business model, they don't fucking look like anything, you buy items, hats, keys, not microtransactions. How can you be so retarted?

I don't understand why people are upset that valve made a shit update when the game is still fun and is the same as before.

pugs, mixes, scrims and matches still play the sames

You'd think that people would've learned that valve a shit during these past 9 years

m8 i have 1800 hours on tf2 and im playing it right now

still the newest update was a literal tf2 killer since the new """""casual"""""" matchmaking is complete shit compared to the old pub system and comp mm is a joke seeing that absolutely nothing changed when it got out of beta

You're the retard that thought we we're talking about microtransactions and not the items you get from them.

>Autistic semantics when you can't even spell

>1/3%

It looks good if you make it white

TF2 is shit and yet it's STILL better than Overwatch!

HOW did Blizzard drop the ball so hard?

Overwatch fans on Suicidewatch.

please end your life.

This makes me sad as a Blizzard fan, where did it all go wrong and how do we fix it?

I don't get it?

youtube.com/watch?v=eP45nc2_st8
TF2KEKS BTFO

No TF2 is so bad they claim overwatch is bad because the community wants to think valve cares.

MOONMAN MOONMAN CANT YOU SEE?

It doesn't matter how many people play the game.

Valve servers are filled with incompetent players most of the time, I even manage to lock the other team in their spawn by myself as a demoman, and I play with a fucking 360 controller.

Community servers are dead, except for furry servers.

The whole game in general feels wrong, but that's just me being the TF2 grandpa that I am.

You mean you don't enjoy the two gamemodes?

yeah, good thing this is just halloween exclusive huh?

With all better maps than TF2, yeah I can

I bet you loved to play on 32 man fast respawn dustbowl servers

Plus, no community content. Have fun with the 10 shit maps that all blend together.

Glad I got my 10 hours of fun out of the beta and didn't throw money away on it. For real.

It's nice being able to easily disregard comments like this when you know the poster behind it is retarded.

Realistically, they weren't even born when TF2 released.

How did overwatch get away with having 2 game modes?

I get that casuals only care about waifus but this shit got old within a few hours.

>implying any living human being would want to play dustbowl over and over and over again

There's actually four gamemodes
>hybrid, control point and payload
>King of the hill
>regular payload
>double control point capture
They can have more, but you can't just shit out maps, which applies for most games.

Communities can fuck a series up something bad though.

To this day I still insist that Rare & Nintendo had no idea what they were unleashing with Krystal.

You can shit out maps if you want a 480 texture quality on Counter strike

You know valvedrones are desperate when the only way they can defend their dead game is by lying and making shit up. It's pathetic desu.

Next they'll probably post the ancient hitbox webms or the webm that describes all the steps of rocket jumping in TF2 but then simply says "Rocket jump" for Overwatch.

I enjoyed TF2 and OW a lot, but for me, OW is better then TF2 since TF2 got boring for me, it slowly devulged into a boring, slow game that didn't really didnt do much for me after 15 hours. I've spent 20 in OW and am still enjoying it with its variety in different characters and the different maps. I liked that a lot in TF2 but something about it got boring after a long while. Now OW fills that void but I've been playing it since I got my new pc so I'm getting a bit tired of it so I'm just focusing on other games but even then, OW, to me, Is better and managed to satisfy that need for a multiplayer shooter that TF2 used to fill. Maybe I'll play it again one day but for now, I'm happy with OW. TF2 isn't exactly dead but the glory days it once had have long gone past.

>3rd most played game on Steam
I'm sorry, but a game with such a great history having barely more players than a game like fucking Civilization V is pretty dissapointing to me at least. I have 2k hours in TF2 and I definitely think, while it's not dead, It will never be "reborn" because of how utter garbage valve developers are with every game that isn't Dota.

>every game but Valve games are dead on Steam
really makes you shrink

> add casual matchmaking
> ship it with a leaver penalty

I don't care if they removed it, the fact that it was even there shows how downhill the game has gone.

>fucking Civilization V
>literally THE best known 4x series in the world
>so well known it's the one series that even casual players who don't really prefer strategy latch on to
Also those numbers are pretty damn good.

What's the cp_steel of Overwatch?

Casual matchmaking ruined pubs.

No autobalance, taking 5-10mins for 2 matches that may end too quick due to unbalanced teams, say goodbye to just staying on that map you wanted in the server for a long while, and freedom to vote a map or to extend the map duration.

I just don't have any fun with this new system, they ruined something that wasn't bad in the first place.

of course its going downhill since the current devs removed some attributes from righteous bison claiming its ability to hit same person many times was bug and they make pointless weapon and class changes such as the spy speed buff and nerfing already useless weapons

I just want them to finish the comics. It's been almost a year since the last update. It's been 3 years since it started.

>shrink
topkek

Daily reminder that if you call TF2 bad you're saying QuakeWorld is bad since aside from bunny hopping, they're identical.
QuakeWorld will forever be better than overwatch , and thus so is tf2.

Actually it was killed by both Valve and the community.
They listened to "competitive" community's whining and made it unfun.

No shit.
Miyamoto straight up took over the project by force and Krystal was thrown in to be a "support" character.
Also I don't think furfaggotry was as openly rampant in 2000.

No it isn't you nostalgiafag

god people pick the most surfacy shit to base their analysis on of video games.

>identical to quakeworld

lmao no, tf2 had less than HALF the features of quakeworld team fortress on release, it was basically an unfinished game. many of those features are STILL not in tf2 today.

not even tfc can compare to the original QWTF

it basically goes,
Fortress forever, QWTF, Q3TF, TFC, TF2

>fortress forever above anything
>q3tf (which is called weapons factory, and is nothing like team fortress, which also sucks)
obvious troll is obvious

Explain why fortress forever is bad.

I'm not trolling, fortress forever was the logical evolution of the fortress games and it got pretty much everything right.

No the game has diversity

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How did it kill TF2? Average amount of player hasn't changed much since Overwatch's release.

BUT HEYYY...

It's 10 years old user, Valve certainly didn't help but it's not like it'd last forever anyways. All the servers in my favorites tab have become IPs, and all my friends no longer play the game. Probably some of the most fun I've ever had video games really, I'll miss playing on FoF, Idort's Revenge, and Spengeboob's.

because everything is different from quake MegaTF, which is literally a perfect 10 in terms of balance and doesn't need a SINGLE change

stupid things like hwguy's gun heating up.... lmao FF is trash

I didn't say it's bad, but valve is killing it's slowly