Why did FFIX flop?

Why did FFIX flop?

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Because the old fans it was trying to appeal to weren't part of the audience anymore

FF7 brought a whole new demographic to Square Enix

Furries

It was released too late in the PlayStation's life

PS2 was on the horizon with FFX and it was overshadowed. Plus it was not hyped as much as 7 or 8.

This. Most normal people don't like ugly fucking muppets and furries

IN YOUR DEAREST MEMORIIIIIIIIES

Its still my hands down favorite. I remember getting it at a garage sale forever ago.

this shit wasn't even a thing 16 years ago

Because people are retarded

Kawaii and moe fags are ruining this series. I want them to die.

Main character is not an emo.

Came late in the system's life when the Dreamcast was already out with the superior looking Skies of Arcadia and Grandia II in the wings, and they were already showing previews of FFX by that point.

Unappealing art style that forgot the main reason why things were SD in the original games in the first place. It wasn't due to aesthetic choice, it was due to system limitations.

FF8 left a bad taste in most players mouths.

Fugly box art in the US.

A lot of unappealing character designs to go with the above mentioned bad art style choice. Who was Quina and Amarant supposed to appeal to?

>SE will never make a medieval fantasy FF again

But VI, VII, X and XII also had furries in the main cast.

It wasn't edgy enough for the tryhard manchild fanbase

>flop

Isn't it the highest rated FF game on metacritic?

>there will never be another mainline ff game that plays like 1-10

The ugliest art design in series history. People saw the cover and turned 360 degrees and walked away.

fuck you it has best waifu

>Fran
>Furry

Flop=money
Not reviews

The PlayStation 2 was already out, so it was essentially developed for a dead console.

>Who was Quina and Amarant supposed to appeal to?
Don't ask me why, but I thought Amarant was the coolest character ever when I saw him the first time. I was going through a dark and edgy phase and getting into black metal and thinking Spawn was the greatest thing ever so perhaps that had something to do with it.

I never played it because of the artsyle looks fucking weird and nothing like FF7 or 8. I said that 16 years ago while at a KB toys with my friends and I still say that now. Only good character in that roster is vivi.

This. It came out too late in the PS1's cycle. It isn't even a bad game, but the reason it gets so overlooked is that simply not enough people played it at the time.

It gets the credit it deserves now, now that it's on other platforms like Steam and iOS

It didn't flop. Jesus you all are retarded.

People wanted another dark, gritty, and futuristic setting like 7 and 8. 9 was too colorful and medieval for them.

Those people are fucking retarded of course

Came out too late in the Playstation's life.

Also:
>5.5m copies sold
>flop

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This. VIII was so fucking bad compared to VII, people lost faith on square enix and didn't buy IX.

I liked it.

>mfw Vivi dies at the end

Its one of those weird games that I did not really care for years ago when it came out but playing it again made me appreciate it. I also got it after X, so that made a difference as well in my perception.

I think part of it was I had only played the 3D Final Fantasies at that point, and when I played it as a adult I had played and finished the vast majority of FF titles. I was able to appreciate it being closer to the older Final Fantasies at that point and enjoy the art style for what it was.

Random encounters got REALLY fucking repetitive. But you need to grind them or the final boss becomes impossible. I know because I used an emulator and savestated through areas to avoid random battles.

This faggot right here enabled all the bullshit that came before IX. The last good (best) Final Fantasy. Said by the director himself.

Back in my day grinding meant going out of your way to fight battles, not refraining from save stating in such a way to avoid them all.

Get fucked. anything befre 9 and after 9 is better than 9.

I didn't have this problem with 7 and 8. But I played them at a younger age. Guess I've become less patient now.

What a shit taste.

You probably already know this but you didnt miss anything special really.

Well, that was easy. Not only you are wrong, you are also easy to trigger. I'm not surprised.

I'm willing to bet 16 isn't going to be a future or modern inspired setting, they have every reason to go back to high fantasy. There has always been more of a market for the high fantasy over the crap 'fantasy based on reality' nonsense.

I mean if you have magical means that can subvert reality, what's the point of all these guns and computers?

16 will look like this.

By the way the battles won't be intuitive or strategic.

And urban fashion trends, plus cars (the fuck, man). All of it is just jarring. It's better when the world has all these interesting fantastical cultures, not modern world meme shit.

Did it? I was under the impression that it did reasonably well.
I mean, 7-10 was a golden age for FF.

Whatever they are currently doing...I don't really understand.

>mfw after 10+ replays did I realize the ending dialog was Vivi talking when I always thought it was the Gnome girl

Was it Iifa tree or Lifa tree?
Best part?
who /Zidane Steiner Vivi Ekko/ here

FF will never have lolis again. X, XI, XII, XIII, XIII-2, LR, XIV, XV...nada

At least Eiko was top-tier.

Because most people can't use magic.

But VIII is the best game in the series.

Yeah I know.

XII is more Classic FF than what IX will ever be yet it din't flop.

Magic is based on learning words, not innate ability.

>talking shit about BE

It's literally has the old FF battle system.

Interesting opinion

youtube.com/watch?v=H47ow4_Cmk0

Like magic classes start off weak then become the most powerful of them all by learning new spells. The only innate aspect of it is if someone is intelligent enough to use magic proficiently.

>But I guess we all have to say goodbye someday. Everyone... Thank you. Farewell. My memories will be part of the sky...

Old FFs were never strategic or tactical. Which is good anyway since if they were you'd have to grind forever to win because who wants to learn how to play the way some sperg wants you to play just to survive?

That's not the case in every setting, how magic works depends on how the writer says it works.

MC was shit.
Garnet was an Aeris/Rinoa knock-off and the romance was shit.
The story didn't make sense and the villains were laughable or introduced in the last ten minutes.

It's how it works in most settings.

FF9 had Kuja and he just confused the fuck out of people cause he had such a charm that you couldn't tell how crazy he was til the later parts where his mortality became questioned and he became mad with the fact that he'll die one day

Only thing I dislike is how they scrapped Freya out of the story after disc2 and she has no real resolve to her character, or Red

>Garnet was an Aeris/Rinoa knock-off

How?

BE is shit compared to RK desu senpai

RK is a meme game

7, 8 and 10 sold 10m+ copies though

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>tfw no gf to show FF9 for the first time to

Was it 8? At least you can tell Zidane has a face outside of cutscenes

>FF7 comes out
>This is great
>Incredible hype for FF8
>FF8 comes out
>Fuck this shit
>Don't pay attention to FF9

That's what happen with my group of friends. 9 ended up being my favorite.

>flop

It didn't flop at all. It was hugely successful.

source - ign.com/articles/2000/12/20/final-fantasy-ix-is-number-one

spoiler that shit you bitch

because people whose first FF was 7 were mad that you learned shit through equips

In comparison to 7 8 and 10, yes.

legit choked up

>i'm Vivi's son!

9 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 in terms of cutscene graphics. Everyone looked exactly the same in 8. Even standard gameplay graphics are significantly better in 9 since you can actually see characters faces unlike in 8 where everyone's faces are pixelated blobs. 8 only had good scenery, and only in select areas.

What's the answer?

It's overrated

Because user it was shit

I guess they're all flops in comparison to COD

You want to know why he always posts the concept art instead of screenshots?

Because you can't fucking tell half of them are furries with the normal in-game graphics being as bad as they are

it didn't though

>IXfags trying to blame VIII for their shitty game's failure

How sad and pathetic.

Right up there with Xenogearsfags blaming VIII for stealing its budget. They're just bad games that deserved to be bad. Stop passing your own shortcomings off as someone else's.

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It didn't fucking flop you retards.

Pretty much this. The only reason it sold less than the others is because it came late into the PS1 life cycle. Final Fantasy X was already revealed at the time and people were more looking forward to that since it was going to be on the brand new PS2.

That's all there is to it, so stop victimizing yourselves all the time IXfags.

>Vivi is dead for good
>Tidus gets to come back from being erased from reality
>People always bawl and moan about Aerith dying
>No one sheds a tear for Vivi

It's not fair.