Shadow The Hedgehog

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SA2 - Fine
Ow the Edge - Stupid
06 - Decent enough for an anti-hero.
Boom - Retarded, but at least the show realizes that
Comics - Good

Why would he insist he's the ultimate life form when he clearly has to wear hoverboots just to keep up with Sonic?

It's like shit nigger I can drive but that doesn't mean I naturally have the powers of a car.

He is suppoused to be the ultimate lifeform because he is very powerfull or some shit like that.
Ultimate Lizard Lifeform thingie needed actual machines to keep up and be inmortal, while Shadow does that by himself because alien DNA or whatever. Only he can power them or something, where do you think he would store all the fuel anyways?
Get out of here nigger, those boots are cool as fuck.

Shadow is slower because of his boots though. If he ran like Sonic he'd be faster. He's just too cool for it.

>That first time playing as Shadow
>That skating around just to skate around

He's alright. He gets some extra points for being added to the series later on and still actually being a character that's worth a fuck.

he's badass

This.

THIS
is it bad that I actually liked Silver and thought they could do some good things with him if 06 hadn't been such a massive fuck-up?

Best Tails Gets Trolled character

WHERE'S

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We had this thread yesterday. All things considered we could have gotten much, much worse.

Shadow is fucking great.

He's the Wario to Sonic's Mario. As such, I think his design is perfect. From his upturned quils to his rocket shoes, he embodies what the "reverse-Sonic" should look like.

It's a shame he gets the backlash he does, yet understandable. I think Shadow is used correctly only some of the time, and he has great potential.

>Shadows' mockups look completely different to the other mockups

I think Sega is fucking with us, and keeping the real Shadow concepts wrapped up, for whenever the time comes to introduce a new character. See; Silver.

Those are fake, even if from Sega.

He was pretty neat in SA2. Had a solid character arc and a fitting death.

Everything after that was a bit shit.

>Muh-ria

I'LLMAKEYOUEATTHOSE

>Not Tom and Slyvester

Shadow's incompetence is hilarious though, I'll give you that.

furry kylo ren tbqh

Silver could have been a worthwhile character if 06 wasn't as big of a disaster as it was. Sucks for him.

at least we have the comics to tell his story

The edgiest motherfucker

>Silver Age ends on a cliffhanger
>1st post-SWC Universe arc is about the Chaotix
>Sega may or may not pull the license after the recent lawsuit

it's no use

Kind of funny that '06 had one of the better interpretations of his character.

IM GETTING REAL TIRED OF PEOPLE SAYING THAT

When he is just completely fucking hamming it up I absolutely love him. I would kill for a completely over the top, satirical, edgy Shadow game by platinum or something.

This for the most part except 06 Shadow is the fucking best.

They clearly don't know what to do with this character now.

Sonic fans are the worst and Anything sega does to make them sad is okay in my books.

>tfw 06 could've been fucking amazing

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If it were a completely different game with a completely different plot, characters, and gameplay mechanics, and not made by Sega, maybe.

>THIS WILL END IT

They should make a sequel to Shadow the Hedgehog, only do it like Wario Land. I.e. he has his own cast of characters, his own enemies and his own adventures. Rouge and Omega are fine but no one else.

Every once in a while he can show up in a Sonic game as an as whole boss, but don't overuse him.

Speed isn't his only forte, he can flip a bus using only 1 hand, with ease.

>now
They haven't known what to do with him since SA2.

THAT

see
He's immortal, you can knock off a few mph but live forever and still call yourself the ultimate life form.

Pretty much this. In SA2 he doesn't go full edgelord and is actually a good character.

StH could have been very good but someone didn't care enough.

In '06 he's surprisingly one of the better characters.

Not at all. The potential was there, but alas it was rushed.

Given the tone they were trying to establish in SA2-before Unleashed era I can't help but be frustrated when I think what the Sonic universe could have been.

Is this real?

no

yes

maybe

can you repeat the question?

Its implied multiple times that he is as fast as Sonic, both being same speed in games they both are main characters but 06 altough they made him slower there for the different playstyle, and in the comics they imply it multiple times too. He is also more energy beams and shit like that, literatly a serious Vegeta.

I think in the instruction manual or something it outright says that Shadow's speed is about 5MPH slower than sonic's. It's just his air shoes give him a slight boost so they're even again.

bullet dodged

SUPERIOR HEDGEHOG COMING THROUGH

Prove to me that Silver isn't the best hedgehog with a god tier theme:
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Protip: IT'S NO USE

>I WILL ALWAYS BEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>GAY
What did he meant with this?

Meh, he's alright.

I never seen this artwork, was it recently made?

His personality doesn't really fit a stylized anthropomorphic hedgehog, he just looks too silly to be taken seriously or is that the intention?.

He's mearly pretending to be gay so he doesn't feel so anxious around this hottie

IIRC Shadow was originally planned to be Sonic's long lost evil twin or brother or something Which would make sense as to why people kept fucking mixing them up
And Silver was actually ripped off from some official fan character contest or something.

Not...now

Gold is better. She's cuter and she has better taste in women.

>potential
Yeah I don't see it. At all. Let's break it down:

>level design and gameplay
Godawful and too open for the little amount of content within. You can spend upwards of 15 minutes trying to figure out where the game expects you to go or what to do. Should've stuck to the more linear style of SA and SA2. Mach Speed is awful and often uncontrollable, Shadow's vehicles are trash and have bad physics, Tails and Blaze handle terribly while flying. Silver is just no fun to play as either. The AI is laughable and the game has no rhyme or reason, it just throws shit at you constantly in an attempt to distract you from other glaring flaws. "Stand at the door and kill enemies until it opens" is not a fun mechanic. The final battle and cutscenes are fanfiction tier. Soleanna looks like shit and I don't even think I need to comment on the NPCs.

>plot
Irredeemably garbage. Silver's whole character and motivations are just stupid and childish, and often contradictory. Blaze might as well be a figment of his imagination. Human-hedgehog romance is maximum cringe and too forced. Elise probably gets kidnapped upwards of 20 times altogether. Time travel in Sonic was a huge mistake. Mephiles was just an attempt to make Shadow even edgier. Just stupid, stupid, stupid.

The only redeeming aspects are the music and some of the visuals, both of which would have been better off in some third-rate JRPG. This felt like Sega's really sad attempt to compete with Kingdom Hearts. No amount of dev time would have fixed this shit unless they scrapped it all and started over.

shoo shoo evan

>Time travel in Sonic was a huge mistake.

Um, user...?

what's your point

He meant story wise.

martyr.

I fucking adore Sonic CD but lets not pretend that the time travel was anything more than a worthless tacked-on gimmick.

YOUR NOT THE BOSS OF ME NOW

His own game is probably worse than 06.

You can say alot of things about shadow's game, but its a complete game. You can't say the same thing about 06.

I'd also say that 06 is also buggier and with worse writing (against all odds).

Shit techno music. Try this instead.

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>You can spend upwards of 15 minutes trying to figure out where the game expects you to go or what to do.

Fixed by a useful map.

>Mach Speed is awful and often uncontrollable, Shadow's vehicles are trash and have bad physics, Tails handle terribly while flying

Fixed by testing. Dev time can totally fix broken controls and mechanics.

>Silver is just no fun to play as either.

Silver's concept is fun. A similar concept was used in Mario Sunshine and it worked.

>The AI is laughable and the game has no rhyme or reason, it just throws shit at you constantly in an attempt to distract you from other glaring flaws.

Seriously, this can be fixed too by dev time. DO you think AI is good from the get go? Also >AI in Sonic games

>Soleanna looks like shit and I don't even think I need to comment on the NPCs

The whole game looks like shit but I'm very tempted to say that it wasn't supposed to be that way given how awesome the CGI is.

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>plot

tbqh I don't remember it too well, but yeah it would have to have been heavily re-written. I'm mostly concerned on how an actual character arc would have worked for Rouge, Shadow and Omega, maybe even Omega. They were obviously going for some kind of arc after SA2 but it turned out to be shit anyway so it doesn't matter.

Also kill Elise. Funny how she's the only character that has never returned in any of the remaining Sonic canon.

>Also kill Elise. Funny how she's the only character that has never returned in any of the remaining Sonic canon.

She's not canon at all

easily one of the worst characters ever made. Up there with Raiden in terms of uselessness.

He was okay as a plot device in Sa2 but even then had a pretty embarrassing character design and a complete void where his personality should be. He was engineered to be the perfect life form and was engineered to be the "coolest" character as well. That is why he falls on his face.

The only way I could see them redeeming him is if they embrace the comedic possibilities of other characters shitting on him all the time.

What if they make a Sonic game with Eggman as the villan and Shadow as the rival?

Elise exists, that much is canon.

>Raiden
>useless

I liked ow the edge. I was about 10 but its at least a complete game

I thought he was physically stronger than sonic but slower than him speed wise?

Better than Sonic

me too