Do you accept any of the Final Fantasy prequel/sequels as canon...

Do you accept any of the Final Fantasy prequel/sequels as canon? Have any of them done anything positive for the overall story?

FF games writting is sometimes so bad that doesn't really care about itself, why i should care if the sequels/prequels are bad?

they couldĀ“ve just called the games something else than final fantasies since none of the games are connected except through having meme chocobos

dont forget meme moogles kupo!

>FF
>canon

What?

And meme cid

Only autists refuse to accept that official sequels are canon.

The FF13 games also got better for each iteration.

they're all canon. people that have to reject something that changes their pure untouchable vidya are beyond sonic tier autistic.

Does Revenant Wings count as a sequel?
I consider it canon and enjoyed it more than the actual FF12.

But the (Actual) Ivalice Alliance games are pretty much great.


They sorta did this with Vagrant Story. It got retconned into the Ivalice timeline.

I don't think that 13-2 was as good as 13. It was less linear, yes, but I still preferred 13.
It was still a great game though.

And meme Biggs and Wedge but I guess that's more subtle

Most of the games do take place in a shared universe, though it's rarely touched on.

The crystals in FF1, 3, 4 and 5 were all made by the same creature, the Interdimensional Rift connects the various games and allows Gilgamesh to appear as the same character in many of them, and the Cetra people in FFVII came from FFX's planet.

and meme magic names

Neither of them were great, I only meant to say that FF13-2 was less bad than the first.

I'm indifferent to them.

>cetra ppl are from X
explain, I've played all the FF but never heard of this

Imo, 13-2 is better than 13 and would've been even better without Lightning
Noel Yeul and Caius were great characters and Caius did nothing wrong

>Accepting X-2

No

I really enjoyed 13 once I got to gran pulse. The combat system grew on me as well.
LR felt like crisis core combat.

>The FF13 games also got better for each iteration.

LR was awful

In FFX-2 there's a kid called Shinra who theorizes about using the life force of the planet as a power source. According to the devs his successors eventually travelled to FF7's planet. The ancient excavated spaceship Cid pilots in the FF7 sequels apparently belonged to them, and it does look quite like FFX's design style.

>Aftermath of X could have been about accepting the new world where Yevon is a fake god
>Political vacuum that is looking for a leader
>World without summons
So many stories to tell and somehow they wanted to talk about Yuna's first fuck

I don't accept FF13 as canon.

I remember that kid.

FFIV After Years was pretty fun, probably my favorite sequel to a FF game, fun story and gameplay with the scenario selection, the ending was crazy and definitive.

FFVII got really confusing because of all these additions, sequels, prequels, movies, too much stuff that doesn't feels like good additions, Crisis core is probably the one that I like a bit more.

X-2 really fucks with the story, but the gameplay is pretty good so it still is worth to play/explore.

FFXII Revenant Wings was so strange, the vibe changes completely in all aspects, I don't like to think in it as a sequel but as a parallel spin-off.

Never played XIII but I hear all the time that XIII-2 is better than the original, so there's probably some true to it.

yes i know about shinra but holy shit i haven't noticed all those details when i played it

At least it didn't involve time travel and the death of the Goddess so Lightning has to become said goddess and then she somehow ends up in our universe modelling in France.

The 13 sequels REALLY fucked with the story.

True. But I didn't care enough about 13's world to play anything else. X however is a world I wanted to know a bit more. And X-2 just laughed at me for that.

>none of the games are connected except through having meme chocobos

All the FF games take place in the same universe you dolt.

You know what's weird? Square still hasn't released a combo pack with all three FF13s in the same box. It seems like such an obvious thing to do. Are they so ashamed of these games?

X-2 did nothing to hurt the story compared to the X-2.5 novel and that "FFX: Will" audio drama they included on the HD remaster.

Holy fuck did Square Enix rape the shit out FFX. It's like they were spiteful at X and X-2 being Squaresoft's last two FFs and wanted to make sure no one liked them better than XII or XIII anymore.

>The crystals in FF1, 3, 4, and 5 were all made by the same creature
Source?

>X-2.5 novel
BLITZBALL EXPLOSIONS

SEX WITH A DEAD BODY

They haven't released FFVII, Dirge of Cerberus, and Crisis Core in a combo pack either. They haven't released FFX and X-2 in a combo pack either (unless you count the HD Remaster). They haven't released XII and Revenant Wings in a combo pack either. They haven't released Dissidia and Dissidia 012 in a combo pack either.

Square Enix just doesn't do that.

X-2 was more depressing in how wasteful it was. There's a million stories to tell at the end of X but nothing happened in that game. As for the book I was just laughing at everything I heard about it.

Based on Japanese polls FFX is considered the best game ever made. Shocking how little they really milked it like with FF7.

There's none, he just made it up

Not him but the games you listed were made for different systems. FF13 games were all made on the same system so it's easier to just do a box set.

>They haven't released XII and Revenant Wings in a combo pack either.

That would be kind of hard, considering they're for entirely different systems.

>the X-2.5 novel

The shitstorm that erupted from that was magical. The fact that it was actually written by the guy who wrote FFX is unbelievable.

The fact that SE isn't making an X-3 just makes me wonder why in the fuck they made that audio drama that reboots the story.

and meme gil

It takes place very soon after XII so of course.
Revenant Wings was great. I wish it got more love. You actually get to have Bgamnan as part of your party.

They wanted to prove that they can fuck up X, even though they don't have the budget to do a third game.

X/X-2 HD Remaster is a blatant combo pack. XII/Revenant Wings is pretty much impossible unless they just pull a Kingdom Hearts and turn it into a movie or remake the game entirely. Duodecim Dissidia contains the story of the original game. In a sense its a combo pack.
>Square Enix doesn't do that
Kingdom Hearts 1.5 and 2.5

This guy's pic related . The final villain is an ancient being who puts crystals on planets with intelligent life. The crystals promote and record the evolution of the planet, and then he returns to harvest and examine them. If he deems the planet's progress to be poor he destroys the planet. Selective breeding basically.

On the way to stop him from destroying FF4's world you find harvested crystals from the other games from 1-6, and fight bosses from those games recorded in them.

Only the original version though, I heard the awful Steam port removed all the stuff from other games, probably because their five dollar budget wasn't enough to remake those things in shitty PS1-era 3D graphics.

Ps4 Neo remaster after XII and VIIR come out, it's the logical answer.

Why in the fuck would someone make up something like that? You're an idiot.

Name a better JRPG boss than Caius in LR.

You can't.

Ah, well, I recently bought FFIV The Complete Collection on my Vita, never played After Years, so I didn't know that. What bosses do you fight?

It wasn't that good, and the setup of the game made him feel like an afterthought instead of a major force like he was in 13-2.

The final boss sequence in LR was very memorable though.

FF13's sequels barely feel connected to each other at all

Like, the characters are all there, but the plots are so ridiculously divergent from each other they don't feel like they're in the same universe.

>bhuni "just block and hit me, i get staggered for free, no strategy required" velze
memorable

After Years was a good sequel to FFIV (PSP version)
Crisis Core was a good Prequel to FFVII, even with the JPop guy.

I can't think of any other mainline Final Fantasy games having good ones though.

Sorry for spoiling the best part of the game then.

You fight the four fiends from FF1, the bosses from the final dungeon in FF2, Gilgamesh, Atomos, Shinryu and Omega from FFV, and Ultros, Doomgaze and the Phantom Train from FFVI. I may have forgotten some.

The bosses also have relevant dialogue, like Ultros commenting on your party members.

The whole sequence is pretty great, because it's completely unexpected and the rabbit hole just gets deeper as you go.

The PSP port of FFIV is garbage though, as is the midquel game. If you bought the collection I recommend only playing After Years. Play the DS/Steam version of IV, which is the version of the story After Years is based on in the first place - the two games in the PSP collection are incoherent storywise as a result.

Caius was mostly just a punching bag mixed with the occasional unavoidable combo though, it was far simpler.

I don't know why but I always felt FF4 ended exactly as it should. It felt like everyone had their own personal ending with no real room for more. Yeah not everything was explained but in the best way. After Years just felt like a sequel that literally had no reason to exist. Yes you can say that about a lot of sequels but FF4 felt perfect in how it ended.

>play the DS version of IV
Fucking disgusting

No worries. I don't mind spoilers that much. I actually bought Complete Collection with the goal to play After Years after replaying FFIV.

I've actually played the DS version of IV. In fact, that was my first game in the series. It's what got me into FF. It's one of my favorites actually. Favorite is VIII though.

You're a retard. Everyone knows the DS version is by far the best one, while the GBA/PSP version is pretty much a hackjob that they didn't even bother fixing for the PSP port.