How did this game turn out so fun?

how did this game turn out so fun?

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>Zestiria
>fun

>he doesn't like best friends' world-saving adventure

It's an enjoyable entry. I wouldn't necessarily call it fun though, but I'm not gonna rain on your parade, OP.

I liked that Sorey was a ruin nerd.

I'm replaying it now, with the luxury of everything mapped.

sorey is such a great protagonist. he's just a giant doofus who wants to help everyone he meets and explore the world with his buddies. he's basically just "oh well i guess no one else can do it, sure yeah i'll be the shepherd" after saving alisha

also he and mikleo are a lot less gay than people tried to make them out to be at first

Fujoshis. What can you do about them? He is pretty much a breath of fresh air for me coming straight from Graces.

If you're enjoying then more power to you

just curious
have you played any other tales?

I heard the ending's retarded. Making me not want to finish it exponentially every time I Try and play it.

Probably better than XIllia's ending. The last 1/4 of the game could be resolved immediately if everybody actually talked for 5 minutes without shouting "ENOUGH" every other word

I'm playing it right now. Characters seem alrifht, but man that combat. The camera sucks hot monkey dick and so far it feels really simplistic. Of course I just the first dungeon after becoming the Shepherd so that past complaint might be hasty

I lost all motivation to finish this. I guess I will now start up the game and progress the plot. Fuck all the sitecontent.

>Great characters
>Great music
>Pretty good story basis
>A few really stellar moments

It could have been amazing if they finished it but even what it is turned out fairly comfy. The ending hurt, that fucking credits music.

Chipped in for a copy and recently started playing it with friends since we all really want to play Berseria and felt this was necessary (though we all really didn't want to play Zestiria). It could be because we're playing together that it's not as painful as I was expecting but so far it's as alright as it can be I guess.

phantasia, symphonia, and abyss

I liked the ending.

I really liked the whole sequence with the final boss and stuff. One of my favorite parts in the game is the scene with Sorey walking to the throne.

I couldn't finish Zestiria. The combat was so boring and restrictive with armatization.

A friend suggested I cheat to unlock all artes. I just might.

I blame the team, how can a bunch of people act so comfy towards each other even after knowing there's a huge demon manipulating everybody to die in a war!

As long as you don't initiate battles up against walls you'll avoid most camera issues. In my 65 hour playthrough I only had 4 instances of it fucking up and only twice was it something that affected my ability to play.

i want to ___ heldelf!

know more about his origins and the origins of the lord of calamity!

introduce Kari

>"I want to know more about his origins and the origins of the lord of calamity! heldelf!"

Heldalf isn't the lord of calamity, he is just the vessel for it.

Berseria is pretty damn good. Just beat the game and doing side quests now.

how the fuck do i play? i have the demo
i get the face buttons
L2 for M.A and R2 for ???

If you know japanese, can you tell me what the fuck was up with Melchior and the flowers?

How dark?
I've heard it goes places.

Does pre-Seraph Laliah show up?

Who dies? I want to know who I shouldn't even try to like.

Not him but during Leta's stream I swear I heard some random NPC talk about a person named Lailah.

It was in the harbour with the windmils if someone with the game wants to check out

The bad guys die and Velvet is sealed with her brother,

why is the combat so shit?

camera sucks
combat boils down to "exploit his weakness"
which above leads to spam X

My top list of Tales in order:

>abyss
>eternia
>phantasia
>zestiria
>innocence
>xillia
>hearts R
>graces F

Pretty much every antagonist dies and Aifreed dies too. The characters that go with you on the ship all live(Dile, Moana, and Medusa) There is a whole bunch of suffering and mother issues too, it's like all of their mothers are dead)

>Aifreed
I guess this is where his legend ends.

it will go worse, but you can learn to circumvent it on most encounters

>no Vesperia on the list at all

Oh I get it, you never played it.

>ctrl+ F fun/comfy
>4/3 matches
This game sucks ass, doesn't it?

Vesperia >>> Symphonia > Abyss

Everything else was not fun. You faggots tricked me into playing shit like Zestria. I have yet to play Phantasia however.

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As an rpg it's pretty average, the plot is pretty average, the bosses are easy to abuse with Mikleo, but the party feels like an actual good of friends adventuring and having fun.

>fun
how, i liked everything but the gameplay and in a fucking videogame thats a problem.
dropped it when i reached that cancerous fucking water temple

>You faggots tricked me into playing shit like Zestria
How, everyone shits on it for one reason or another. Did you get taken in by Steam reviews or something because they are either shitposting or just dont know any better.

>Graces F.
>Best gameplay at last.
>Abyss
>Dumb characters first

So is Zestria really a shit game?

Honestly I've never played any Tales game before but I'm enjoying the Zestria portions of the anime. The thought of exploring ruins with your homobro and waifu sounds fun to me. I like the characters a lot but don't really care for how the plot is presented. From only watching some youtube videos on it, I'm not really feeling the gameplay.

The combat system is generally considered to the weakest part of Zestiria, relative to other Tales games. If story/characters are what carry a game for you and you like what you've seen from the anime, though, you should give it a shot.

A Steam code for the PC version is on sale for eight fucking dollars on the Bandai Namco store right now, so it's not like the cost of entry is particularly huge at the moment either.

I have played every single main Tales games since Legendia and I still havent played Vesperia, not my fault Scamco decided to release the game on a dudebro console that no rpg fan would ever own, I hear xbox gaming is coming to windows 10 so maybe we will be able to play the digital version on pc, who knows.

Who is the worst Tales protagonist and why is it ASSbel?

The plot of Graces went full retard really fucking quick.

Alright I'll give it a shot at that price, thanks.

Combat is fine but could take awhile to get used to (or even a few levels, 20 hours until it becomes fun). The only good part is that I can do some STYLISH combos but it takes a while to farm up the gear for it. Overall everything else sucks ass and tedious.

She's got Lloyd on the mind.

Lloyd on head retarded.

I'm leaving.

No contest, the dude has the personality of a cardboard box, the entire cast of that game sucks ass (besides Malik of course), bur that combat, god why dont they just use Graces combat for all theor games? Its by far the best gameplay out of any other game in the series.

not him, but yeah it did
skits were funny despite that, especially in the future arc

I'm confused. How so? Vesperia was my first game. I then played the re-mastered Symphonia, played Graces, Xillia, Xillia 2, and this game was the least fun I've had with tales games in a long time. Lots of gripes about those fusions.

Are you the same guy on those Star Ocean threads trying to convince me that game was good too?

Gear is something I still do not understand in the game.
Should I level EVERY gear? Should I just focus on what their basic stats are and don't really mind about skills until later?

Dont worry user I appreciated the jokes.

>the entire cast of that game sucks ass
I disagree

I feel you there. I picked up a refurbished 360 exclusively for Vesperia and it RROD'd on me just when I started my second playthrough.

Last console I ever bought.

ENGLISH or JAPANESE
which is better for which games

all ps2 games japanese, all ps3 in english

I think it depends on what your priorities are when judging a Tales game. If priority one is combat, then yeah, Zestiria is kind of crap. If you're willing to let that slide if the story/characters are good enough to carry it, then it's pretty solid.

The story is fine if you look at it with zero scrutiny and if you get lucky with the RNG for skills combat can be fun

Personally though I found it a mess

its only fun if you payed under $10 for it.
namco has a sale going on right now for $7 but wont be restocked till monday

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It's really not, no matter the angle you're trying to enjoy it from. But hey, each to their own.

I'm 8 hours in. Do the dungeons ever become less linear? So far there's been no puzzles at all.

No moving boxes, no pressing switches, no lighting stuff in order, no anything. It's not really a "bad" thing, but it feels weird to not do tons of stupid shit in every dungeon in a Tales game.

yeah the elemental dungeons have puzzles.

You'll really hate to wish for that once you reach the Water Temple

Not really, the most you'll ever have to do is use your seraph party member's powers to progress.

I get that they'd still wanna render the head (while hiding the hair) inside the Norumin helmets for obvious reasons, but what's up with the ears?

The final dungeon is essentially one giant annoying puzzle, don't worry.

Why was Zestiria so hated, anyway? Was it just Alishafags being salty?

Aiai's standing right behind her in that suit.

Yes, it's not bad

Friendly reminder Eleanor has a plump rump

I am still kind of salty about the Alisha situation, and I'm even more mad that Rose is immediately able to armatize, but that's not the problem with the game. The problem itself is a compound of small ones.

The shop system
The skills
Having to pay to fast travel
No changing the field character
Forced to play with certain two characters
Armitization itself taking away a player

There's probably other stuff I missed.

>No changing the field character
This hurts me deeply. I just wanted to travel around the world with Edna, but I can't.

Why?
WHY?

I think there's lighting stuff in order like 4 times, and "wrap yourself in a water bubble to avoid evil eyes on the wall staring at you" maybe twice. They just replaced the tedious puzzles with more caves with dead ends

Spoilery vid

youtube.com/watch?v=8QxnxvZq6-M

At 37:00, why the fuck does the wall monster explode? It can't be the ship firing on it since its right under them. Did Velvet scream so hard it blew it up?

>Graces has the best combat meme
Stack stun, ride the base attack train then spam artes. What a great system.

i just like the CC system in that game

I need a point of reference as to what "good" is.
Did you like Zesteria?