Who do you think made the Halo?

who do you think made the Halo?

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I sort of missed out on the halo games as a kid and I've always wondered a few things about the ring planet thing

Are there multiple ones? How long are the days/years on those things? Is gravity different there?

Does the game hold up enough that I'll be able to play through it? I think I tried it once and it felt very strange, like I would just go to some empty plains and clear it out with no clear mission or goal, and It repeated for a while until I got bored of it. That's all I remember doing as a kid

Larry Niven.

Captain Cortana.

muslims

There are seven rings, each with a decreasing diameter so they can fit within one another sort of like chopped onions, though the "gravity" on them remains a constant as each ring uses centrifugal force to keep everything on the surface.

Also
>not being in high school when Halo came out

Do they make a giant railgun.

I was like 14 or 15 when it came out, I just never had the game.

slaves did. black slaves.

They're a weapon. They're really powerful, especially against living things.

Some Bungie devs.

Sort of, when all are activated they destroy all life as a way to get rid of the flood as a last solution because the forerunners were too pissed with humans cleansing they're planets they didn't see it was flood infected planets.

This is not true at all. There are 7 rings, each identical in size though their geography is different.

So does each halo take place on a different halo.
Is halo 4 literally about the fourth halo and so on.

each ring is in fact a point on Cortana's ass we're exploring

There are 7 Halos. I don't recall how long their days are but they're outfitted to harbor all sorts of alien life, including humans and earth creatures, so their environments, gravity, etc. can be tailored accordingly.

CE's gameplay is a BIT dated, but the story, atmosphere, etc. is enough to keep you entertained for at least one playthrough. You might have played the second mission, which sets you down on a big area and lets you choose where to go. I recall that's one of the only levels of its kind in the games.

Precursors

Confirmed for never playing the first Halo.

some dumbasses who have way too much time on their hands

No, we've only visited, uh, 3-4 Halos in the 5 main games. You indirectly visit one in the 4th and none at all in the 5th.

It's called "Halo" mostly because the events of the series stems heavily from the legacy of their usage 100,000 years ago.

Bungie.

I did

Is there a quick way to indulge in Halo lore? I'm interested, but not several hours of research interested.

The Forerunners built them, this can easily be looked up.

throughout all the games you only ever set foot on two halos

They're actually coming out with a book for that.

halopedia.org/Halo_Mythos:_A_Guide_to_the_Story_of_Halo

I'd also recommend reading the books. Most of them make for a pretty good read, more or less. But skip Karen Traviss's books. They suck smegma.

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but can they fit around a planet like an extremely fashionable Saturn ring.

enemies are usually alive so that's good

That's not true. There's the Halo from the first game, Delta Halo from the second game, and a reconstructed version of the first Halo in the third game.

So technically I guess there's only two if you count the one from Halo 1 and the one from the end of Halo 3 as the same one. But it's definitely 3 different Halos.

The only problem here is that at one point the halo lore was pretty good. Up to halo 3 everything was alright.

Since then Bungie, the actual developers ended the series, but it was then placed under the helm of 343 industries. A "fan" company

The lore then proceeded to shit itself and everything around it. Including every bed within 100kms of anything those fucks produce.

Niggers, its always niggers

With all of 343's fuckery I wouldn't be surprised if they retconned important stuff like that. Nowadays if you REALLY want to know everything about Halo you need to play every game, read all the retarded books, watch a bunch of TV episodes, etc...

Right

Wrong

>Up to halo 3 everything was alright.

Halo 3 was a wreck, m8. I don't care for 343 but Bungie stopped giving a fuck about the lore way back then.

contractors

Yeah, 3 was the point that they started to drop the ball. It was still salvageable then but definitely worse than what they had done in 1/2.

Nah, Greg Bear's Forerunner trilogy was actually pretty good. I've heard nice things about Hunters in the Dark, and I've also heard good things about Last Light too. I've read New Blood, and Broken Circle, and I know both of those were good. Halo 4's story was "meh" on its own, but pretty solid with the Didact's backstory.

Halo 5 on the other hand... now that story was complete garbage.

>Greg Bear's Forerunner trilogy was actually pretty good.

Sup Forums where people read video game novels and tell you they're "pretty good" without realizing they're adolescent fiction written to a 13 year old level

How do we make the Flood fun to fight?

By extension, how do we make a good Flood level?

I'd say that's right regarding most of Halo's novels, but the Forerunner trilogy can get a bit dense in some places when compared to the rest of the series. You and I might have different thoughts on what constitutes "pretty good" though.

Make them smarter. They're supposed to be this unstoppable killing machine but they just feel like spiders

Quarantine Zone

It's a pity about the Halo 5 story, because I did like some of the lore stuff they did. All the comprehensive backstories for the REQ weapons and armor variants, the Mission Intel logs, Sanghelios as a whole.

I feel like if they'd gotten literally ANYONE else to do the actual main story, it could have been a solid campaign. As it was, they got the illustrious writer of the ACCLAIMED Spartan Ops and Escalation to do it. I honestly feel like they had him do it because absolutely nobody else wanted to, for some reason.

Can we put the 343 lore away for the guy actually interested in Halo?

Before 343 took over the Forerunners were ancient humans who wiped themselves out and all other life as a last resort in their war with the flood. But they seeded the galaxy with the DNA of all races so that life would flourish again after they'd died.

Fastforward hundreds of thousands of years and humans are space faring again and rediscovering all this tech that they don't know their ancestors made. The tech recognises them as "Reclaimers" however and that's a driving part of the Bungie series. All to the backdrop of the Covenant war, the Covenant being a collection of races who worship the Forerunners as Gods and to cover up the discovery of humanity being Forerunners the leaders of the Covenant wage a war of extermination against them so they can keep control of their heavily religious conglomeration. The Covenant outstrip humanity technologically and numerically and Humans tend to lose engagements and are being driven to extinction.

Then 343 retcon that so the Forerunners can be Micheal Bay transformer robo-cyborgs who HATE humans you geuis! Cheef hav to stop them or they'll blow up the world! Good thing humans now the strongest in da uniiverse! Underdogs are more interesting? NAAA, look how big human ship is, it's l337 as fuck!

Fuck 343.

OP here
Never played Halo.

Perhaps give them a dragon-like leader that has a personal history with the master chef.

Make them more like The Thing, volatile in form and constantly mutating in the middle of battle.

I feel like the tank forms that turn into the creepy shooting spiders were a neat idea, but neither form was that exciting to fight.

>not being in highschool when Halo came out
>being on this board 15 years later

>Before 343 took over the Forerunners were ancient humans

nope sorry you're already wrong

>Before 343 took over the Forerunners were ancient humans

This was only during Halo 1, and 2. Halo 3's terminals ended up[ implying (or just simply leaving it open in some cases,) that they're not the same species.

I made the halos

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>Before 343 took over the Forerunners were ancient humans

Gonna have to stop you there, m8, Bungie made Forerunners a distinct and separate race right after CE.

I get that you've been reading the shitty opinions of a bunch of assmad Bungie fanboys and think parroting their opinions without actually knowing what they were talking about is smart, but let's not mislead anybody.

The terminals suggested that the Librarian seesed Earth with forerunner DNA and watched humanity start to develop.

Also Guilty Spark said, literally said, to Chief:
"You ARE Forerunner." In Halo 3 no less.

Thanks to 343's scientology-inspired fanfiction? Fucked if I know. Oh, turns out that forerunners were just humans with voldemort noses trying to follow in the footsteps of the precursors, a race we just contrived because we realized that the air of mystery which we just shitcanned was all that made the forerunners interesting!

Spark was also literally insane

I remember the promotional material and terminals in Halo 3 implying that the Forerunners found something really unique about the Earth, which is why they build the Arc there. There were diagrams noting it as being strange in some way, like the planet itself had some kind of unique property that fascinated them.

And then they never elaborated upon it.

>Guilty Spark

Right, the light bulb that was going insane. What a source.

Halo 3. Guilty Spark said it. Pull your head out of there, sonny.

a giant wife alien

the flood were more fun to fight than the covenant, at least on CE for me

Yeah, OK. He just said it for no reason. Made it up.
Cool. He soooo crazy he confirmed what he'd been alluding to for years. What a twist. 11/10 Bungle.

Don't be dense guys, come on.

what if halos are literally the halos of angels, left behind after they died.

my nigga, and the correct answer would be pak protectors

Guilty Spark is a crazy motherfucker, bro. And Halo 3 was a shit story regardless.

Look it up, they explicitly state the *original* plan back in CE was to make Forerunners humanity, but they changed it immediately after.

Quarantine Zone was GOAT

> We shall cut into the heart of this infestation, retrieve the Icon, and burn any Flood that stand in our way!

Oh god this
>Fire a rocket launcher into a group of them
>Smoke clears
>They mutated bony plates to give themselves a pseudo-armor lock

It does sort of raise a pertinent question as to how humans are the only ones able to grab/use the index and shit if they weren't actually forerunner descendants.

>Yeah, OK. He just said it for no reason. Made it up.

People tend to do weird shit when they're insane. More at 11.

>angels are physical
>angels die

Precursors - the actual "leaders" of the ancient world
Forerunners - came after the Precursors

Precursors deemed humans to be the next "leaders". Forerunners got salty.

Exactly, thank you.

You must be baiting me, I refuse to believe you're this obtuse.

New lore get out

tbqh SpOps was pretty enjoyable. I liked the mission variety.

5's story was so spastic too. The stuff with Blue Team was honestly really great, but the OCiris Donut Squad was complete and utter trash. Not even Buck was competent, except at jobbing to Luke Cage.

>"You ARE Forerunner."
Because Chief's (humanity's genome) was touched and molded by the Forerunners.


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Speaking of terminals:
Name one (1) AI more based than Offensive Bias.
Professional advice: You aren't capable.

For those genuinely interested...

>the halo rings were created by the forerunners
>forerunners made them as a self destruct button last ditch effort because they were fighting a ancient parasite called the flood.
>the flood are nigh unstoppable, because if even a small particle survives, it can easily infect another cell or host and begin spreading.
>only way to fully eradicate it is to destroy it's "food source" aka every living thing in the galaxy.

Some other stuff

>civilizations in the halo series reach different tiers
>technological advancements bring your civilization to the next tier.
>one of the highest tiers is creation of life, which the forerunners were able to reach.
>forerunners created humans
>even older race call the precursors created the forerunners
>forerunners destroyed basically all of the precursors, except maybe one.
>humans attempted at one point to destroy forerunners, but failed.
>forerunners basically "reset" humans as punishment

I'm pretty sure this is all pre 343 stuff, which is when they fucked with the lore and made it into a fan fiction esque series.

>being in high school when Halo came out
When are you gunna die from from your prostate infection already, old man?

He also thinks Chief was the actual guy who activated the Halos in the first place. So yeah, take his word with a grain of salt.

The Librarian seeded humanity with a latent genetic rewrite which allowed them to utilize Forerunner tech.

>inb4 Halo 4 "the Librarian did it"

Halo 4 did a poor job explaining what the geas actually does.

M8, Bungie literally said "We changed it, they're not humans, they're a separate race". We get you're trying to find things to whine about but come on, you're ignoring the people you're trying to champion here.

Source on Bungie statement and I'll capitulate.
Fair is fair, but based on what I know 343 fucked the lore.

>ancient extragalactical parasite called the flood.
fixed familiabbq

This.

I always read that line as "for all intents and purposes you are forunner", especially given the context of inheritor of all they left behind.

Oh right, humans wuz kangz and sheeit, fighting the flood before the forerunner knew they existed and they actually taught the forerunners how to bathe until they bombed humanity back to the stone age. #staywoke #knowyourhistory

I'm still confused about something in the first Halo. Guilty Spark said he recognized Master Chief, and they never expanded on that. He made sound like MC was a god or was around previously.

Pak were faggots.

Okay, so the flood is the x parasite and the halo is the metroid.

God

>You must be baiting me,
Nah. The terminals literally had the librarian referring to them as different, special individuals. Guilty Spark refers to them as children, and inheritors. Those lines are fine, and literally the only thing that goes against any of this is one line from an insane light bulb.

So tell me, do you prefer your source to be legitimate recordings on a sight that no Flood had yet to make contact with, or do you prefer your source to be the insane light bulb having a mental breakdown?

But children inherit (usually), you could easily take it as relation.

Spark was nuts by the time Chief rolled around. He'd had no contact with anyone for about 100,000 years and was starting to go rampant.

It's why he thought Chief was the one who fired the Halos, and why he equated him with a Forerunner.

>but based on what I know 343 fucked the lore.

At best the only materials that the community agrees is bad are the following:

Halo: Escalation

Halo 5

That's it. Most people agree that the rest of their installments into the series have been okay, or the materials have been divisive (see Kilo Five trilogy, or Halo 4).

>MC fights the Flood
>doesn't get put in quarantine for a washdown after every mission
immersion ruined, dropped

The link there as children is pretty tenuous.

The discussion is moot anyway, as halo 3 is canon, and says forunner are separate

Halo 4 and 2012 is when I start to get hazy on the lore, that's when it starts to get messy.
Coincidentally, when 343 was in charge.

Some asshole that put politics before the survival of his species.

>I can't keep up
>it's 343's fault

Halo 4 was, again, pretty divisive. The community largely likes the other materials from that time frame though, most notably the Forerunner trilogy. Personally I find the first two books a bit dry, but Silentium just might be the best novel from either Bungie's or 343i's list of contributions.

I always loved fighting the flood in CE since instead of sticking behind cover they ran at you like a motherfucker

Children could have been adopted.
>Chief travels on the Dreadnaught from fuck knows where to Earth in 30 seconds of cutscene time between two games even though it took months.
>no months long cutscene
>Immersion ruined
This is what you sound like.

>civilizations in the halo series reach different tiers
Kardashev scale is common in sci-fi, man.

Kinda yeah.

The flood infects the host, gathers all its info, turns the host into a zombie, and eventually forms a "gravemind" that pools together all the information they've collected and is essentially the data dump of the hive mind.

The halo rings are kinda like metroids, in the sense that they were created to combat the flood, but the rings only do their job when activated (I think only humans can activate it because they have forerunner DNA in them, or the forerunners hoped humans would do the right thing, or something, I'm not too sure). Once activated, they literally just wipe everything in the galaxy out.

In halo 1, you destroy one, in halo 2, you discover there are 6 others, and in halo 3, you find a "halo building station" called the ark on the far edge of the galaxy that was in the process of rebuilding the one you broke, and if you can shut the ark down, you can shut the other halos down too.

All the while, an alien army called the covenant is trying to gain access to the rings because their religious radicals make them believe they're on a religious mission.