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looks like the same bad combat system and them coming up with excuses in interviews, world is way too big (1.5 x the size of Gothic III)
also no immersion, he kills a big mech like its out of paper with his sword
sleep tight creators, it was fun while it lasted
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>immediate THIS IS JUST A PRE-ALPHA disclaimer
Looks jank as fuck. Slow sluggish combat with no weight behind any attacks. Not to mention it looks like a fucking MMO from 2012.
did anybody actually get hyped or believe that this was gonna be anything but mediocre?
piranha haven't made a good game in over a decade now. i dont know what made gothic 1 and 2 so good, but its definitely no longer there.
i always wonder how they manage to keep operating
looks like a cheap witcher knock off
>Same engine
>Same animations
>Same combat system
>Same Trees
>Even the same dinosaur model
SINCE 2001
I get it, Gothic blew my mind when it came out, Gothic 2 is one of my favorite games ever but the G3 happened and it was more of the same and I got bored, moved on. And they kept making THE SAME GAME - Risen, Risen 2, Risen 3 and now this?!
Who buys those games? Literally who plays the same game for 15 years straight? And it's so lazy!
Those jewrmans can't keep getting away with this! STOP BUYING THEIR FUCKING GAMES!!!
LITERALLY GOTHIC WITH GUNS
piranha are worse than Bethesda at this point
löl fuck this shit, pre alpha or not, one already could tell that the game will be shit dudebro arpgs crap.
Instead of going back to the roots and try to improve upon GI/GII, they keep on pumping out shit tier games.
That's not true at all you fucking moron, it's been the same game since risen, if it was Gothic 1 for 7 games the original fans wouldn't be mad with every new fucking release
shit anim
jetopack op
weapons op
damage too high
combat too floaty
in german (warum?)
Playing a skinhead no ty
gamepadkek
dinosaurs a cool so
It's the same game, just shittier because guess what, it's not 2001 anymore and people have different standards. The changes are basically cosmetic.
I was hoping that Risen 2 & 3 were just mistakes but it more likely seems that important people jumped of the train at one point and thats all they had to work with
its very apparent in how they simply can not make a good combat system anymore
zeig_mir_deine_ware.exe
The animations are janky as fuck. And the jetpack seems overpowered, especially against melee only enemies.
I will still give it a shot when it comes out.
io met Sascha Henrichs, their environment modeler, once. pretty cool and chill guy. the development studio is just inside an ordinary house lol, looks comfy as fuck. a shame that their games are lacking
>feel free to get hyped!
>but don't criticize it for looking like crap, it's pre-alpha so you can't criticize it!
No fuck you, if anything showing off pre-alpha footage is a giant red-flag.
looks like a unity game.
>combat looks like it belongs to KOTOR, just without the turn based element.
>world looks like somebody made an amateur Warhammer mod for Gothic 3
it saddens me to see their fall from grace of the years, i though Risen 3 was horrible, but this game looks just lackluster
>pre alpha
it will most likely be released next year 1st or second quarter
this is pretty much final for the most part, they just filling up the world, do the graphics and get proper animations
>since 2001
Wrong. The Gothic 3 engine was new and every game of them uses that engine since then.
Publishers force that because they need to show something during events. And Nordic THQ is pretty new with most of their games being still in development.
>It's the same game
if it was the same game i would be fucking happy with it
but it doesnt have all the stuff that made gothic 2 so great
>interesting and atmospheric world
>cool setting and characters
>tough as balls and unforgiving combat
>high difficulty
>top quality open world
>great melee system
>large variety of cool spells
and since gothic 3 it's all gone, and i have lost hope that it will ever return
Gothic 1,2,3 and Risen 1 are great. This looks nice to me. Maybe it is not. Keep an open mind.
Also Oldcamp>Newcamp>SwampniggerCamp
But that's fucking wrong. This engine was written for Gothic 3, which was, you know, half of the reason why that game was such a clusterfuck. Since they originally licensed Gamebryo but dropped it and wrote their own engine when they realized how fucking shit Gamebryo was.
Combat system was redesigned for every single fucking PB game. Those fuckers just can't settle on anything.
>same dinosaur model
I am sorry, but what?
This looks exactly like G2 which is a good thing. People complaining are fucking Skyrim shitters. Fuck off losers
Doesn't look that bad, gave me a Risen 2 feel which I loved.
Also crappy CGI trailer.
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Nothing exciting in it, except for one thing: at the end of the trailer we see a Cleric mage.
Which means at least two of the three factions have magic, and it isn't exclusive to the forest hippies. That's nice.
>gothic 3
>great
Good, I hope PB finally go tits up.
They've deserved it since Gothic 3.
Their games are about as professional as their offices then.
The G3 engine always has been and always will be terrible in every way. Nothing has weight. Everything is clipping all the time.
Compare that to W3.
Animations are placeholders. They outsource them this time to another studio
>jetpack
>weapons
>damage
>combat
Not finished yet. The ATK values are also all placeholders. You won't get flamethrowers and overpowered guns at the start of the game with 500 munition each.
>in german
Because its from Gamescom - A german videogame convention
>playing a skinhead
Risen already did that
>gamepad
Those videogame stands pretty much always offer gamepads only.
>piranha bytes
LOL
won't even bother pirating this garbage. the combat looks just like risen 3 ROFL. fuck this company and these stupid yuropoors who support them. all they make is trash. they haven't made a good game in almost two decades
they were worse than betheshit when they released risen 2. then they released risen 3 and became their own degree of special shit
The G3 engine has one big advantage, it can handle fuckhuge worlds without any loading screen whatsoever.
Now there are sadly two downsides to this:
It hardly means shit when your game lags so fucking hard I might as well be staring at a loading screen. They might have worked this out though, hasn't happened since Gothic 3.
The second is that they can't do any particularly big dungeons. Or at least I'm guessing "can't" instead of "won't", because Gothic 3 had fuck all, while the small world games all had plenty.
10 years after release Gothic 3 atleast runs decently without too much lag.
If you got enough RAM, good CPU speed and a SSD the game even runs with next to zero lack. Which is impressive considering the scale of the game.
sadly the truth, the veterans mostly stopped caring
its the younger people that bought into risen 2 & 3
Yeah, now I don't have any lag issues with G3. Now G2 on the other hand is a nightmare in Khorinis, around teleport stones, and around dragons. Some kind of video card compatibility issue I assume.
Although I ran into some weird shit with G3. The game went into slow-mo after about 20 minutes of play every single time. But it only needed a small tweak in the ini to solve forever, so it's hardly noteworthy.
Damn i hope you can upgrade the combat stancw to make it faster/better would make sense that you cant wield a sword for shit at the start but hope its not through out the game otherwise actually doesn't look bad to me
Yeah. Thats why they said that most of Risen 2 and 3 were a mistake and they now bring back stuff like open inventories, food item and potion animations and one huge combined world.
The problem with ELEX isn't that its pandering to Risenfags. It really isn't
The problem might be that it panders to people who liked the idea behind Gothic 3.
>ELEX is 1.5x the size of Gothic 3
>completely open like Gothic 3
>factions work similar to the way they worked in Gothic 3 as well
>multiple endings depending on what you do just like in Gothic 3
>factions work similar to the way they worked in Gothic 3 as well
Factions works the G1/G2/R1 way. You must join one to advance the story, other factions react to your selection, your choice is final, no going back, you advance through ranks within the faction, armor is locked to your faction advancement instead of general reputation.
This is the exact opposite of the G3 faction system.
So basicly nothing to look at, why release this shit in the first place.
It is really stupid from an economical standpoint to showcase a language that is not native for the most spending market, which would be the us and a.
Risen skinhead was skinny this is some buff ass neonazi tier skinhead.
gamepad implies it is another shitty console port. Now look at risen and say the same.
No internet credit for your damage control fucboi
This just makes me sad.....
I really love Gothic 1, and especially G2:NotR... played that game so many times.... I want them to make another great game... i want them to succeed....
Then i see this.... it looks so bad... i want them to make another game so great as G2.... i wish them the best... but this is just sad...
Also, they are foken reusing the engine from G3? Its showing its age when Bethesda is doing it, and thats a huge studio, Piranhas are just a lil office somewhere nowhere....
piranha bytes is a pretty small studio. I wouldn't be surprised if you compared their team working on gothic 2 vs the one working on gothic 3, and noticed that some important position was missing. as little as a senior programmer changing can have a huge outcome on literally everything involved in a project. it might have doomed them because they didn't realize what they lost.
Man I wish it was Gothic over and over again. I could play two more even with the same graphics.
>Implying that USA have ever been their target audience
Why so entitled yank?
>why release this shit in the first place.
Publishers usually demand that from developers.
You cannot just let them develop a game and do nothing till its done.
>It is really stupid from an economical standpoint to showcase a language that is not native for the most spending market, which would be the us and a.
Gothic and Risen are mainly popular in Germany and Eastern-Europe. The USA are only a second tier market here. And again: This shit happens in Germany.
>Risen skinhead was skinny this is some buff ass neonazi tier skinhead.
Risen skinhead was a poor stranded refugee without anything. In ELEX you play as a soldier who left his faction.
>gamepad implies it is another shitty console port. Now look at risen and say the same.
Again: Have you ever seen big stands during E3 or Gamescom that offered keyboards? Even games like Mount&Blade Bannerlord offer gamepad support.
The problem with the combat here is that it looks like a Souls game immitation and that they stopped trying to do it their way.
>No internet credit for your damage control fucboi
Why should i do damage control for anyone? Especially a no-name studio like Piranha that nobody outside of Europe knows. I am only calling you out on your bullshit.
>pre-alpha
>a lot will change
Then why bother showing us anything from SUCH an early stage when you already know that most of it won't be in the game?
The only thing you do with this is embarrass yourself.
They will never make anything better than G2, get the fuck over it
Risen 1 and 3 are the closest thing to that and they're not exactly that good. In fact, Risen 1's second half is complete garbage and Risen 3 is so mediocre from beginning to end it's not memorable
>which would be the us and a
Sorry brah, but PB's consumer base is mostly European.
Just use the DX11 renderer you mongoloid - it was created exactly to solve those issues.
you people are whats killing the game industry. no love for middle class. everything has to be TOP TIER AAA ALL THE TIME
In my case the DX11 actually made things worse. I'm sure it probably fixes the problem for most people, but it seems I have shit luck. Vanilla for me is more stable.
>factions work similar to the way they worked in Gothic 3 as well
they claim you can get 50 hours out of elex lol
better not be the same bullshit of cleaning factions in towns
Same here. DX11 rendered my game unplayable. Couldn't even get into the fucking menu once I was ingame.
they have to be fucking retarded. all people ever wanted was gothic 1/2 with modern hardware! that's all! holy fuck! they tried all this fucking bullshit, from risen, to this, and still failed.
>tfw i will never play gothic 2 for the first time again
I guess still no character customization?
Good RPGs don't sell on America, so they're not a relevant market.
I like B-tier games - I love stuff like Hand of Fate, I even loved Venetica. This isn't about production values - graphics, models etc it doesn't matter but the gameplay needs to look solid.
This looks like shit.
Its the biggest market. It's always the target audience.
>You cannot just let them develop a game and do nothing till its done.
I dont see many devs putting their audience off with absolut shit pre alpha previews. (PB are not fucking indie)
Gothic and Risen are mainly popular in Germany and Eastern-Europe. The USA are only a second tier market here. And again: This shit happens in Germany.
Proof when. I dont hear nor see any big german industry talking about anything PB. It's was an english speaking board I got my nifos from.
>Risen skinhead was a poor stranded refugee without anything. In ELEX you play as a soldier who left his factio
doesnt change the fact that he looks like a neo nazi
>Again: Have you ever seen big stands during E3 or Gamescom that offered keyboards? Even games like Mount&Blade Bannerlord offer gamepad support.
doesnt change the fact that it will be a cancerous port
>The problem with the combat here is that it looks like a Souls game immitation and that they stopped trying to do it their way.
looks like risen, its a bad sign as they dont really progress.
>Why should i do damage control for anyone? Especially a no-name studio like Piranha that nobody outside of Europe knows. I am only calling you out on your bullshit.
proof my bullshit wrong than fucboi. nutil now you only do damage control for whatever retarded reasons your brain forces you to do.
And i surely believe you with all your sources and shit.
Nice army and all but what I have seen looks shit. I love risen and and g1 (g2 fags should gtfo) but this shit looks bad No amount of pathetic responses from some I want to believe guys can prove me wrong. Stop delluding and get hyped over nothing faggots
Should have called it Deutscher
>Risen 1's second half is complete garbage
yeah I have yet to fiish risen 1
Nope. You play the bald Alb guy, and he isn't even a nameless hero anymore. However they haven't revealed his name yet.
Did they spend their entire budget on concept artists? What the fuck
>hand of fate
>B-tier
That's not a b-tier game user. Venetica is, though.
in terms of sheer map size the game is triple A
>anything post G1 and risen 1
>good
>does not know anything about the previed game
>calls it good
you are bunch of marketers
I would say just quit it when you get tired of the chapter where you have to pretty much hunt down for armor pieces. Because it's nothing but hot feces.
The final boss felt no different than trying to eat a nice burrito and chewing on a cockroach hidden inside.
I didn't even know a game like this was being made, and now that I've seen it, I don't care anyway.
I thoroughly enjoyed Gothic 1,2,3 and Risen so I will pirate this. Might be good but truth be told all the competent people left PB after Gothic 3 launched so its mostly just newbros working on these games so no wonder they look average.
>doesnt change the fact that he looks like a neo nazi
Because he is a neo nazi? I mean, that's the entire premise of the game. Neo nazi guy learning to be a not neo nazi.
looks fine for pb
>hand of fate
OK, you're right but in terms of budget Hand Of Fate is not an AAA production, right? Small budget, small studio, the graphics are not the latest and greatest either and yet the game is kinda incredible, right? It's low production value but polished as fuck.
How do you even call something like that?
>ALL GAMES MUST PANDER TO THE LAND OF FREEDOM THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE EARTH U S A
>doesnt change the fact that he looks like a neo nazi
the typical stereotype of neo nazi in germany is no more and i dont get what this even has to do with the game
What are you expecting? Have you ever played a PB game before?
>also no immersion, he kills a big mech like its out of paper with his sword
oh so youre a skyrimfag
Who knows, it might be a cult classic. Lol.
German neonazis are fat and bald and usually live on social welfare.
Witcher meets Stalker meets Mass Effect
You do realize this is not the studio's first game, right?
You are kidding me, right ?
Pander to an international language would be more profitable.
It still going strong in my city. The point is that I dont like playing with a neonazi.
Again, not in my city.
Ppl come on now, The game looks shit and the preview is basicly worthless as everything will be change and, AND it put me even more off because what ive seen looks shit. Lets just not (not) talk about this until a real demo is released.
It's like they never learn.
The janky animations remind me of Alpha Protocol, I don't think they used mo-cap. Sad to see PB go out like this, if this won't sell then it really is over for them.
>It still going strong in my city. The point is that I dont like playing with a neonazi.
How can you wake up every morning and resist the urge of killing yourself for being so retarded?
He is kidding.
You play as a soldier of the Alp faction but after you crashed and lost they contact to them they simply don't consider you part of their faction anymore and attack you like they attack everyone who doesn't belong to them.
And so you join another faction to get a new home.
>You are kidding me, right ?
Only half-joking. The protagonist was raised by a faction that consider themselves superior and want to eradicate the untermensch, and he was well on his way to become a general when he blundered and got kicked out. His old faction wants to kill him for being the failure he is, while he runs around in the forest and starts to "experience emotions for the first time" and "learns what it means to be a human". Also, the power of love should you go for the romance.
Why everything Germans do is so fucking boring?
Look at Finns, they are fucking autistic too but their thrash is always hilarious in a special way.
>Look at Finns, they are fucking autistic too but their thrash is always hilarious in a special way.
Finnish videogames?
Like what?
The only things they ever made were Angry Birds and May Payne/Alan Wake/Quantum with only the latter being good. Kinda. Pretty much everything after the first Max was flawed.
Well there's Unreal World.
Trine, Flatout, Rally Throphy, Shadowgrounds, Legend of Grimrock
looks like a meme game taylot made for plebby redditors
>The point is that I dont like playing with a neonazi
stop posting ok lol
I am retarded for pointing out that neofascist mode is still going strong in my city (germany,xxx) and that I dont like to play as one? Wew I think Ive just got more time on this planet, Its your turn killing yourself I suppose :)
Sounds ok. Nothing to write a home about. Get the red faction vibes from your summerize.
You are killing me breh. Make a game I'll buy it.
I hope the real demo will be more gucci than that what ive seen.
zieg geil comrade am i rite lol nazi nod ded
I got 52 hours out of it
I dont feel like continue my old save
>Proof when. I dont hear nor see any big german industry talking about anything PB. It's was an english speaking board I got my nifos from.
Look here.
Risen 3 is DRM-free in Germany and maybe even eastern Europe so people from those countries who use Steam are a huge minority.
Physical copies come with no Steam key.
Why don't you go to blog your pathetic life on tumblr if a guy with a militar haircut triggers you this badly?
Or better yet, kill yourself.
>shit animations
>worse sound design than runescape
>graphics looks like video game version of clipart
>ITS PRE ALPHA SO EVERYTHING IS GONNA CHANGE OKAY JUST IN CASE ITLOOKS BAD ITS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE GOOD
Then why even fucking show it at all?
Your fucking merkel is neonazi
Uncle Dolphie would envy her ability to completely ignore the reality in attempt to achieve a goal which doesn't exist in out world
>not liking the game means I love skyrim
explain this meme
yeah, it is. however,i was pointing out that from a quality perspective, the game is well made.
you can just call it "indie" i guess. or "low budget".
The only thing that I see is that US and A sales are double as much as german sales.
Steam would probably show the same results.
Need to see the sales of physical copies but I dont think they would surpass the results shown in your image.
Now my lyfe is pathetic because I dont like playing a neo nazi. You (you) getting that tumor of yours removed soon? get checked fagboi