Time to see which one Sup Forums prefers

Time to see which one Sup Forums prefers

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also where should we put mankind divided?

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Steampunk is shit and just a shallow aesthetic. Arcanum was a fluke and you know it.

Cyberpunk is great, but it died in the 80s.

This thread again? Sup Forums is consistently 60-80% in favor of Cyber, while leddit swings the other direction.

steampunk can be great but most people are fucking morons about it and turn it into LOL WACKY INVENTIONS GEARS BRITISH PEOPLE

Do we need to have this thread every day?

I like Victorian, but Steampunk is too brown for my tastes, Cyberpunk has some neon in it so it has some color.

Cyberpunk is a proper genre.

Steampunk is just a gimmicky aesthetic choice that doesn't even have anything to do with punk.

>Deus Ex on the same level as the 2$ game that is Shadowrun SNES
it's a good game if you get past it's flaws but it's no fucking Deus Ex. Especialy when talking Cyberpunk > Gameplay here.

What's the reason Sup Forums so heavily favors cyberpunk anyway? (Aside from what said, that is, since that's a given.) I've always found the entire aesthetic of cyberpunk a little too depressing for my tastes, almost dystopian at times.

>Cyberpunk is great, but it died in the 80s.

'no'

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what compels a person to make the same thread over and over again?

Cyberpunk: Artificial intelligence, surveillance, transhumanism, social segregation, megacorporation

Steampunk: ??? gears n shit

>What's the reason Sup Forums so heavily favors cyberpunk anyway?

it's an actual legitimate genre

>'no'

"Cyberpunk was a mistake"
-William Gibson

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this is not even worthy of debate. The aesthetics alone in Cyberpunk wins by a legion

My biggest problem with Cyberpunk is when people try and stick to the 80s aesthetic, then it starts to become as shallow as Steampunk. The themes of Cyberpunk are what matter, not the look.

I personally love the concept of a dystopian future. I like steampunk too though.

>What's the reason Sup Forums so heavily favors cyberpunk anyway?
Consolefags didn't play Arcanum.

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What about analpunk?

Steampunk is a cool aesthetic but always raises questions and stresses suspension of disbelief if the technology or the social commentary/ideological questions it poses becomes sufficiently more advanced than modern day, limiting it's potential as a genre for growth.

Cyberpunk has objectively more potential as it has no limit on what can be done, from virtual reality to technology so advanced it can resemble functional magic and all the social commentary one could want without breaking immersion. It has only been done well a few times though in terms of vidya.

Dieselpunk is a far better aesthetic than Steampunk, but as a genre is pretty much stuck in a World War I/II setting, and the enemy/major antagonist of any Dieselpunk setting will predictably always be some form of foriegn communist government/the Reds/them damn Nazis, so never will see as much attention as it deserves.

I dislike steampunk because 90% of it is people slapping random brass pipes, gears and dials on victorian shit.

It looks retarded because they don't given the sense that any of it serves a function.

Cyberpunk is cool but its so rare to see it fleshed out beyond neon city streets. I want to see what houses/apartments/rural areas/etc look like in this world

20keks
Too true

>it's

The look's cool too though, the environments I mean not the pink mohawks and trenchcoats

>I like steampunk too though

>cyberpunk
Loved genre that's been constantly revised and referenced in multiple mediums ever since the 70-80s.
Cyberpunk's features, like its heavily stylized portrayal of advanced versions of modern technology, ethical failures of the modern society, mega-corporations and various other things make it not only interesting but also higly relatable. That further makes it into somewhat of a skewed, overblown look into how our future as a species will look like. As a whole, cyberpunk is almost always paired with an impeccable, noir atmosphere.

>steampunk
Gay bearded men on ships that run on coal and steam. Beloved by young nu-males with beards and fedoras. Completely void of any atmosphere. Recalls the period of heavy industrialization where everyone smelled bad, had crooked teeth, lived in terrible conditions and got worked to death in equally dirty factories. Referenced by nerds and Arcanum. Paired with retarded designs that have absolutely no connection to reality, unless you're a larper with down's.

Next time make the choice hard, OP???

I always preferred Dieselpunk for war settings and Decopunks for the cities. Nothing like streamlined stuff from the 50's to get a man going.

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I like cyberpunk because it usully comes hand in hand with massive corperations with too much power making everyones lives miserable but survivable.

Kinda like where we're headed.

The very state we exist in is cyberpunk, though many do not know or acknowledge it
Verily, thine life's history is laid bare before those that may profit from it. Thy family is known to those who wish to know. He who would profit from your continued existence either is already or will be.

though there's still no good cyberlegs available real life cyberpunk is fucking shit brb sudoku

Cyberpunk has more potential as a genre.

Cyberpunk always poses interesting philosophical questions and gives and interesting look on what the future can end up being; not just technologically but socially, politically and otherwise.

Steampunk is Victorian-era England with gears and pipes 'n shit.

Where we are you mean

Armored Core should be on this list tbqhwy

Pretty much this. Steampunk is an interesting aesthetic but plot wise can't really tread much new territory. Cyberpunk is limitless as the future.

Getting there, I think we're almost to the point of no return.

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Agreed.

cyberpunk is gay
Cyberfash when?

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Cyberpunk > Dieselpunk

Steampunk is shit.

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actually cyberpunk is limited in its technology just as much as steampunk and is starting to become outdated

to much advanced or speculative tech and you enter the realm of traditional science fiction, cyberpunk is at its heart the future as envisioned by the 80's, just as steampunk is the future as envisioned by the 1880's

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I prefer cyberpunk but I liked it better when it was speculative rather than becoming increasingly topical. I have a Cyberpunk 2.0.2.0. sourcebook sitting on my desk - it's hopelessly anachronistic in many ways.

I can't think of any good Steampunk games other than Arcanum.

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Dishonored
>inbf whalepunk

(good) steampunk isn't about steam only, gods sake the Nautilus ran on electricity

here come the dieselpunk tards (steamfags in denial)

The nostalgia goggles for Shadowrun SNES are unbelievable.

Arcanum is pretty much the only good steampunk game, unless you want to force certain Japanese fantasy games into the genre.

arcanum honestly is one of the best steampunk works around though
it actually manages to embrace the -punk part and enhance its world and story through it

Shadowrun seems pretty dated (haven't played it though, so I don't have an opinion) but its music is on fucking point. youtube.com/watch?v=HRvPpOAyh4I

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God bless Meguro

steampunk is for massive neckbeards, no wonder it has less votes than neither

Cyberpunk is not limited by retrofuturism at all, only Steampunk and Dieselpunk are - with Dieselpunk being to a much lesser extent.

Anything from artificial intelligence to transhumanism to giant mechs can be Cyberpunk if done correctly.

I used to love steampunk but no one ever does anything interesting with it. There are plenty of cool cyberpunk games. I guess the setting is easier because it's closer to reality?

Nigga what, if that were true then it would be more like fucking Teslapunk.

Steampunk is like early 1800's. Scifi in the 1880's were all electricity styled shit.

I agree, Steampunk is a misleading name, people assume it's just gotta be about trains and airships and shit but really it's just stuff done in a victorian/industrial style

cyberpunk is very much retrofuturism, its just close enough to not be apparent as much as the other genres

there's attempts to adapt the genre into post-cyberpunk which actually incorporates modern day elements such as the omnipresent nature of portable technology but that's just a band-aid

Doesn't sound very cyberpunk to me. You just wanted to post this because it's cool, didn't you? I'm glad you did.

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Nigga, are you retarded.

Cyberpunk isn't limited to the 80's. For fucks sake, the appearance it takes alters every decade or so. Look at Shadowrun, it used to be all floppy disks and cables, now it's all wireless connections and the internet.

for me the one thing steampunk simply cannot have is a functional transistor

guess what: steampunk can easily feature electricity, in fact its a core component of the genre

ive yet to read/watch a good story with steam punk aesthetics. nuff said

Dieselpunk is a completely different genre with a completely different aesthetic (50's Americana as opposed to Victorian England), taking place in a completely different setting (usually much more emphasis on war) with completely different character archetypes and overall attitude.

I prefer ethanol punk and solid-fuel punk

alright, keep believing it, but in 10 to 15 years its gonna be people running around in 80's clothes with monochrome displays glued to their pants

Why is gun man so smug?
Is it because he has a gun?

It's because of the easy access to his possessed girlfriend.

I prefer depressing aesthetics.

I love dystopian settings.

the halo/aliens/star wars/starship troopers future of very "military" and junky looking star ships with a ton of greebling. where soldiers look more like vietnam soldiers with pulse rifles (ok star wars soldiers are not in the same style as it's ships, they are much more sleek)

just regular ol' military science fiction
nothing -punk about them

it's always very beat down though, it lacks the "punk" aspect of high life vs low life, but it's very non idealized too. and it's not just "military science fiction" because star trek also can easily be described as that but it's presentation and aesthetics are totally different.

not everything needs to be a -punk
and star trek is not military science fiction, its at its heart exploration based

a military science fiction show would be stargate

Mankind Divided is better than Human Revolution but worst than the original

If anything put in great and drop HR to good

yeah but stargate's aesthetics are in no way the same as the things I listed so I'm just gonna call them junkpunk to piss you off

Both have their merits

dieselpunk >>>>>>>>>>>>> floppy fedora discs >>>>>>>>>> boots and goggles

I liked Arcanum, but it wasn't pure Steampunk, as it had Magitec, but basically you are forgiven, as there are not many works around that have steampunk in them.

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Problem is, there aren't even bad games.
Arcanum is the only Steampunk game I know.

>it's still only steampunk vs cyberpunk

daily reminder that dieselpunk is the best

>the Nautilus ran on electricity
Don't group Verne with the fedora wearers of fiction.

Thief 1 and 2.

Though the setting had little to do with why they were good.

Verne is what steampunk should be, and rarely is

then again, we could always start grouping the worthwhile works under terms like victorian retrofuturism and let steampunk die a quiet but sadly not dignified death

>no games
>no books
>no movies
>just deviantard pics
Is always based Cyberpunk Vs Buzzwordpunk.

We've been through this before.

Steampunk, as it is now, has zero depth and is held back by the reddit idiots who want to be "teh maximum gentleman" special snowflakes with their superficial differences in where the cogs are on their hats and how many goggles they have. It has possibility but you would have to completely ignore the current fans of the setting in order to use it. Meanwhile cyberpunk has a full set of themes to explore and develop based off of possibility instead of past letting it do a lot more.

Dieselpunk and Atompunk are the only two other "punk" settings I would consider to be legitimate outside of Steam and cyber and they are criminally under developed.

Verne is science fiction, period.

1 wasn't steampunk, only 2 was really.

I mentioned this last thread, but there is too much magic in Thief to be steampunk. The second game has some touches of it, with the Mechanists and their inexorable march towards exterminating nature, but when you mix in magic crystal arrow tips, secret societies with special "go-anywhere" doors, treefolk, and trickster gods, it just doesn't work.

Steampunk is okay. I guess the problem is that apart from a bunch of cosplays and Arcanum, there just isn't much that could grab me. It seems to be mostly about the aesthetic that refuses to explore outside the "Victorian" england

Cyberpunk on the other hand gave us shitton of stuff, from Deus Ex, Shadowrun to Ghost in the Shell, Blade Runner or Snatcher etc.

Also, best waifus and anarchist punk rock shamans.

This guy gets it

Old man Gibson is just mad because he didn't copyright the term and now he can't make shekels out of it.

Still, I guess I should thank him for literally creating the genre. Neuromancer was cool.

Steampunk because the 19th century is my favorite period of history, it's just a shame that it's never done right.