Xbox SCORPIO

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FOUR times more powerful than the PS4 (actually 4.5)
6 teraflops of power
4K at 60fps for every game
The best lineup of IPs
HoloLens integration out of the box
Oculus Rift support out of the box

The definitive gaming platform.

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>The best lineup of IPs
*also on PC

also

>"best"

not with that amount of focus testing

So it is a pre made Pc.
Like I thought.

>expecting 4k at 60fps, let alone 10fps

you're going to be very disappointed

>supporting the VR meme
Already pressing F

>he's honestly falling for the 4k meme

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You're going to buy this console, right Sup Forums?

>4K at 60fps for every game
I'll eat my dick if this is true.

If Todd said it was happening then it will happen, he wouldn't lie to us.

Is this a thread to show how deluded consolefags are?

No one here can possibly think a console can run 4k@60fps on VR mode right?

>6 teraflops of power
>4K at 60fps for every game
>6tflops
>4k at 60fps
KEK

11TFLOP on my Titan X Pascal just BARELY pushes 60FPS at max settings at 4k

>I don't care about 4K. I just want more polygons.

Photogrametry is the way of the future for asset creation. I'd rather have something that can handle that better then higher resolution.

I don't care. I'm buying a GTX 1180 next year.

dx12

>4k

they can't even handle more then 30 fps and they're already talking 4k

>He doesn't play in an Nvidia VCA

Top plebs. All of you.

DX12 isn't going to make a 6 TFLOP console GPU outperform a Titan XP m8.

>dx12
That is in DirectX 12 games m8

You people are insane if you think 6TFLOPS can drive 4k gaming at any decent quality. You will be making an INSANE amount of concessions. 1440p you can push with max settings at 6TFLOPS.

why doesnt M$ just buy AMD?

why do console fags delude themselves like this?

>4K at 60fps for every game

unless it costs 900$+ i don't see that happening

no, upscaling is not 4k

Assuming those are 6 actual teraflops worth of calculations then it's perfectly reasonable.
But I want a spec sheet, because even my top tier 2 generation old gpu is only 3.9 teraflops, so we're talking a fucking 1070gtx worth of power.

the products are not competitive

intel could strike back in a hard way

4K at 60fps for every game
>shadows off
>AA off
>textures low
>render scale low
perfect

nice advertisement you got there, OP

MODS

It's still a console, nobody said it'll be maxed out.

>TELL ME LIES. TELL ME SWEET, LITTLE LIES

...

It's the only one they can feel good about their purchase.

... wtf

Who gives a fuck? I want games.

Fuck the XB1 has almost nothing. Ms has handled the third Xbox console with shitty management.

>6 teraflops of power
WHAT?! Teraflops are joules now?

>ps4 is 1.83 Tflops
>4.5 x 1.83 = 8.23

I think you are lying you FUCKING SHILL

Good, keep up the good work microsoft, aside from this shit I haven't seen very much evidence that consoles aren't killing gaming, so it's always good when one of the big 3 gets their shit together and releases something with some decent horsepower.

>6 teraflops

You keep using that word.

>xbox og has mountains of risky compelling new ip with core focused gameplay

>ever since gears 1 its been halo gears forza and half assed new ip all day every day

6Tflops would be about a 1070, if this chart is true, running at medium, 4k 60 fps seems reasonable.

Derp, meant to say the only way.

dubs and trips

There are zero exclusives for this. Why would you buy this when it's already been confirmed that everything will also be on pc?

The ps4 is no better either.

>6Tflops would be about a 1070, if this chart is true, running at medium, 4k 60 fps seems reasonable.
Medium is N64 to PS2 era looking textures, lighting and shadows. What good is 4k if everything looks like shit.

>The ps4 is no better either.
the neo will be the definitive way to play ps4 true exclusives

>Sean
>Todd
>Konami

How could you even try to BELIEVE what they tell you

Are you delusional

amd tflops are much worse than nvidia ones

True exclusive, you mean.

It's amazing that it's been so long and PS4 still has only one fucking game.

user VCRs are for watching movies.

If emulators should have taught you anything it's that resolution is the most important thing in graphics.
Most wii games look better than wiiu games through dolphin.
Besides things like the difference between medium grass and max grass are fucking nothing, and frankly AO still looks stupid 90% of the time, nobody makes good use of tessellation, and I can name maybe 3 games with real volumetric lighting or shadows.

>games out of my specific tastes dont count

okay autismo

So Microsoft has finally caught on? Just lie, and release something shitty, and it'll sell good anyway. Nice. Good to see the industry is still making good decisions.

>6 Teraflops
>4k 60fps
6 teraflops isn't enough for 4k 60fps m8

Most tvs are 4k 30hz, nothing will run past 30 fps.

>6 teraflops

everytime

I play games at 3440x1440. I can tell you that a reduction in texture quality, density of vegetation, lighting rendering, AA, and shadows makes more of a difference in quality than resolution. I'd sooner play windows with higher settings at a lower resolution than suffer much lower graphics settings in regard to textures.

Linear scaling, which is what dolphin does, is entirely different than rendering a game at multiple resolutions. If you want to talk about that then yes Scorpio could pull off 4k 60FPS easily by RENDERING the game at 2k and then using advanced upscaling techniques on the CPU to crank out a 4k picture. This would result in significantly superior quality than rendering the game at 4k, which would force the developer to turn off essential filters, texture qualities, density of objects on screen, shadows, etc.

>There are zero exclusives for this.
>There are people who actually believe this.
Oh, at first everything will be supported on both consoles. But within a year or two, devs will start going, "well, I want to be able to sell my games on their amazing graphics". Those 4k/60fps games will become 1080p/60fps games. Then 900p/20fps games. "Experience the game as it's meant to be played on Xbox Scorpio!".

Your shitty little Xbone runs the same games with shitty, compressed textures and horrifying pop-in at 720p/15fps. Oh, sure, they can run the games, but you'd be hard-pressed to call them "playable".

And that's the best-case scenario. They never promised, to my knowledge, that Xbone would be able to run Scorpio games at all. Only that the Scorpio would be able to run Xbone games. The only company to make a promise like that was Sony with the NEO.

>16 years ago 1 teraflop of computing power costed more than a million dollars and was used by scientists
>today people are salty because the new $400 console will ONLY have 6 teraflops and won't be able to render their waifus at 4K@60fps

>Linear scaling, which is what dolphin does
lol no it's not, you just lost all credibility. You think an emulator can't render at higher resolutions? How fucking stupid are you?

Why wouldn't you just buy a PC if all the Xbone games are gonna be there?

Retard alert.

Xbox:

>3 consoles
>0 games

If I'm a retard what are you? Atleast I can tell the difference between upscaled 480 and native 1080, seriously how fucking stupid are you? I'm pretty sure even a consolefag would recognize the difference.

It's going to render at 1080p then upscale to 4K. So them saying "you can play games 4K@60fps!!!" is incredibly dishonest but not technically a lie.

>Why wouldn't you just buy a PC if all the Xbone games are gonna be there?

$$$$$

Convenience?
Frankly I've been waiting for kaby lake before I build my next pc but if this is powerful enough at a reasonable enough cost what's the point?

£400 for the new super powerful Xbox that's about as powerful as a low-grade PC with less games.

Sony on suicide watch

Show me a PC that can play 4K resolution and maintain 60 frames per second, for less than 400 britbong funbux. And when the majority of gamers inevitable move over to Scorpio, devs will follow the install base and that's where the games will be.

At 6TFlops it would have to have a 1070gtx equivalent processor, that's 499 eu alone.
If this actually cost 400 gbp it would be worth buying it bulk just to strip for parts and cloud compute.

Why doesn't Sony or Microsoft just put out a system update with more ram and tflops? I did it on my PC...

>The best lineup of IPs*


*also available on Windows 10

>on my Titan X
>my Titan X

sure kid

BUY AMD STOCK NOW

You show us a console that can do that.

Is it more powerful than the R9 390?

The Microsoft(tm) Xbox(tm) Scorpio(tm)

probably about as good as a fury

>too retarded to understand what console optimization is

Yes 20% better.

Something that died the second console devs switch over to x86-64 architecture, and pc devs switched over to dx12.

PS4 is 1.84TFLOPs, meaning it's 3-4x better than PS4, not 4.5X

Scorpio is more like 4x-4.5x better than Xbone, which can't even handle 1080p at 30fps, no way it's gonna be 4K at 60fps

Too late.

you're right

I regret not buying a year ago. but it's still a good buy, It will go to $10 no doubt

The PS4 is about 8 times more powerful than the PS3... and look at the minimal barely noticeable difference in graphics.

If these new consoles are only 4 times more powerful at best then we won't even see much of a difference at all.

question;
will it make existing games better?
i.e. playing Xbone version of FFXV or Witcher III - will it look/run better? Will it be up to the devs to release a scorpio patch? Or will devs release a scorpio edition?

So consolecucks have to buy a new console instead of upgrading a video card?

>and look at the minimal barely noticeable difference in graphics.
Is that a joke?
Ps3 games looked like soggy dogshit, sure most ps4 games are pretty ugly by modern standards but atleast they look presentable.
They didn't even bother putting real shadows in most ps3 games.

I think the idea is it'll be the same game, same settings, rendered at 4k.

yeah, you'd have to be a blind retard to not see the difference between PS4/Xbone games and PS3 games, most current-gen games actually have reasonably okay AA qualities and run at 2x the resolution of PS3/360 games

>The best lineup of IPs
>Oculus Rift support

To be fair, you don't want to play their games on Windows.

>Windows 10 only
>DX12 only
>No Steam
>Optimized like shit
>Bullshit, laggy MS GAMES or GAMES FOR WINDOWS or XBOX ONE FOR WINDOWS service

We all remember GTA4 on PC LOL

There's of course a different in graphics between PS3 & PS4, but is it really that BIG in your eyes? Keep in mind, look at the difference of SNES to N64, or N64 to Gamecube. I've yet to see a jump like that in graphics since 5th to 6th gen.

7th to 8th was miniscule in comparison.

>upscaling is not 4k
It is to Microsoft shills.

>The best lineup of IPs
All of which will be available on PC. There's no point. At least Playstation will still have the token moeshit exclusives.

Most of the aa is 2d shader bullshit, the real benefit is the amount of memory, everything in the ps3 days had to be simplistic with ugly low res textures.
>but is it really that BIG in your eyes?
The difference between a modern pc's graphics and a current gaming console's graphics are "big" in my eyes, and they're borderline imperceptible compared to the difference between a ps3 and ps4.
The real benefit isn't graphics, it's processing power and memory, name one game with a world as big and packed with crap as witcher 3.

>6Tflops would be about a 1070
No, not really.
For instance, the RX 480 is nearly 6 TFLOPs, and it gets stomped by the 1070.

Man, you must be easy to fool by corporations, all they have to add is a few extra sparkles and you'll easily fork out thousands in hardware components.

>Most of the aa is 2d shader bullshit
The modern SMAA implementations and TSSAA used in games like Uncharted 4 and DOOM are so far beyond what was used in most last-gen games.

Even if any of this was remotely true they'll be making the games for the lowest common denominator between the 3 xboners which is the classic xbone. You'll be lucky if they even bother to remove the 30fps cap and do nothing else for Scorpio.

cant wait to get one to play quantum break

>best lineup of IPs
All of which I can play on my PC in actual 4K.

1070 is actually 6.5, but there's also an increase in the efficiency of the render pipeline, even if it doesn't increase raw calculating power there are other things it can do more efficiently every generation. If this is a current generation GPU it will make outperform a 480 by almost as much as a 1070.
One major issue with the ps4 and xbone was they used mid-tier generation-old gpus, so they were already eclipsed by standard pc hardware before launch.
Judging how fast they're pumping these consoles out it's a likely possibility.