I want to be excited for Final Fantasy XV, but for some reason my hype has just died. Game doesn't look that fun, graphics look gimped, performance doesn't look that great. I want to be hyped after 8 fucking years of waiting for this game, but all my core gut instincts are just telling me this game is going to flop. Here's to hoping I'm wrong.
I'm more excited for Persona 5. Seems like better artstyle, music and character design than FFXV, the story hasn't been completely handed to us on a platter already, the demons look great, the comic/cartoon nature of the game seems to work really well, the whole dynamic of being a midnight thief just seems cool.
Honestly as much as I grew up with and love both series, FF has always seemed "very Japanese", whereas Persona/SMT has seemed much more influenced by Western music, myth, fashion, art design etc. Also much more modern settings.
Somehow I feel like Persona 5 will probably be the more well received/acclaimed of the two, but I will buy and play both.
This is honestly the gayest looking game I've ever seen in my life. I don't mean that in an insulting way, I mean I have seen trailers of and played games that are literally just gay dating simulators but good god.
The FF games I remember growing up with as a kid had girls and bros. Why is this game all bros? Why is there such a gay Stand By Me cover playing while they all do homoerotic things you'd never seen grown men in scantily clad leather clothing doing together? Is this the Japanese State's Eugenics program at work or something? Why do they all sit down cross legged with their chopsticks eating at a fire together like ladies having tea?
Hudson James
>FF has always seemed "very Japanese", whereas Persona/SMT has seemed much more influenced by Western music, myth, fashion, art design etc. Also much more modern settings. what.
Matthew Brown
>Literally the Duke Nukem Forever of JRPGs.
This. Somehow all my instincts are just expecting a huge backlash to this thing. I'm talking reviews giving it 5s and 6s across the board, some 7 and 8s praising art design, music, graphics etc, and then a whole ton of reviews talking about how fucking shitty and boring the game is to play and how generic the storyline is.
Cameron Gonzalez
They're actively trying to make the gayest game of all time.
Jason Kelly
The worse part is that none of them are hot|
Though old Noctis is ok
Colton Moore
>FF has always seemed "very Japanese", whereas Persona/SMT has seemed much more influenced by Western music, myth, fashion, art design etc. Also much more modern settings.
Alexander Jenkins
The movie being literally objectively bad is the final flag. There's no hope for a 30 hour game if they can't make a decent 2 hour movie.
Jackson Baker
Neither. I've never been interested in FF15/Versus, it's everything I don't want in a FF game. Persona 5 looks just like Persona 3 and 4, below average games I might play one day when I'm bored and it is $10.
Aiden Thomas
It looks like those Sup Forums sleepover webms.
Austin Wilson
After the footage of FFXV on PEE ESS FOURU from Japan and the fact it will have a NEO version makes me very excited but Persona 5 takes the cake.
Kayden Long
>FF has always seemed "very Japanese", whereas Persona/SMT has seemed much more influenced by Western music, myth, fashion, art design etc. Also much more modern settings.
Uh, no, you got that one backwards
Brayden Lopez
>NEO version
I thought every PS4 game will work on the neo?
Nicholas Johnson
>After the footage of FFXV on PEE ESS FOURU Dude it got downgraded badly. >and the fact it will have a NEO version No.
Bentley Gutierrez
>P5 looks like a below average game >I might play one day I'm bored I know you're baiting, but please, next time make it believable.
Benjamin Edwards
im excited for both because i actually like video games.
Levi Howard
Well think about it, there's literally hundreds of Judeochristian mythological figures and demons in the SMT games. The music always sounds like it's more Western influenced, you don't remember a hiphop song being the final boss theme of Persona 3?
The games in SMT and Persona almost all take place in the real world, in modern times, or in the case of something like Strange Journey, in the near future. Or in SMTIVs case, an alternate world paralleling our own.
The FF games have a lot of medieval settings, or settings so fantastical it's hard to compare to our own. I always liked the steampunk aesthetics of FF6 and 7, could never really get into something like the first 2 ffs or ffv. Also just the music in the FF games sounds much more Japanese for whatever reason.
You can't deny there are aesthetic choices made in SMT/Persona games that you would literally never see in an FF game for the specific fact that the FF games are more heavily Japanese influenced. The entire FFXIII series was FF basically devolving into a waifu series (catering to weebs/Japanese shutins).
>literally smelling another man's crotch after he's shaken it up for you.
i don't want my little cousins playing this game.
Christian Price
>FF has always seemed "very Japanese", whereas Persona/SMT has seemed much more influenced by Western music, myth, fashion, art design etc. Also much more modern settings. What?
Cooper Ross
Every game after October 2x has to have one so it means most likely that NEO will be out in November. >Dude stop being excited for this game I can't afford No >No Lol, because you don't have the information regarding PSNEO that any normal person can acquire you think "no" is going to make people think you know better? lmao
Gavin Kelly
Persona 5 and the inevitable FFXV PC and mainline SMT.
Grayson Thompson
It's western influenced but it's Japanese as fuck, that's a major part of their modern culture.
FF has been aimed at the west foreeever with their westaboo names and ar.
Person is set in a Japanese high school ... I don't think anything more needs to be said about the game being Japanese as FUCK.
William Wright
Persona 5 will have a poor man's press turn system, terrible dungeon crawling even if they're not random anymore and a shitty obnoxious cast that we'll have to endure for a whole decade. Don't know about FF XV.
Anthony Reed
Actually I was thinking the same thing P5 doesnt look that interesting same goes for the rest of the series
Lincoln Bennett
L Spiro said SE wasn't going to optimize for Neo. They are for Scorpio because that's DX12 and they're doing it anyway for PC.
I'm just saying it got downgraded, not to lose your hype. Chill.
James Fisher
Why ? I mean I love these games, I can't understand why you would find them uninteresting.
Jordan Green
But it won't have terrible dungeon crawling, why do you think it will. They reintroduced all sorts of puzzles and gimmicks
Austin Cox
Why do you call it poor man's press turn? It's barely any different from SMT
Julian Ramirez
he hasn't played them clearly.
Jason Cruz
>/smtmasterrace/ being this butthurt Dungeons in 5 look fun, and font tell me you found fun Dungeons in the mainline.
Charles Roberts
I wasn't even slightly interested in XV from day one, because FF games have been terrible for years, and they weren't much better before that.
When I saw the demo at E3 this year, I laughed for a good 5 minutes at how absolutely awful it looks in every aspect. I can't even picture myself watching the cutscenes on Youtube, I care that little about the story and characters.
P5 looks alright, I'll pick it up on PS3 next month.
James Rogers
Strange journey without grus had god tier dungeons But dungeons in 5 do look fun. What, do you think dungeons in 3/4 were anything more than absolute shit ?
Juan Ortiz
Wasn't feeling it but do prefer SMT
Brandon Morales
>next month
Jayden Bell
Didn't play Strange Journey, but SMT 3/4 were not what I call fun. I actually preferred Tartarus over the TV world. I wouldn't call them fun but there was a little something in Tartarus that I liked a lot. Also since dungeons only were a part of the game it was ok for them to not be perfect.
John Hernandez
So far all I've seen is MC and his gang running through pretty hallways. The fact that they're not random unlike 3/4's garbage gives me a bit of hope though. >He didn't like the dungeons in SJ, I, II or Nocturne Even II which had garbage like Geburah was fun.
Daniel Sanders
> Yeah 4 doesnt even have dungeons, and the only good dungeon in 3 were the Amala Kalpas, which were awesome as fuck. Everything else was boring
Hudson Wilson
>I can't understand why you would find a borderline visual novel with shit combat and dungeon design where you spend 75% of your time reading poorly written teen drama uninteresting You might have brain damage
Nicholas Reed
Only people with brain damage can't find merit in visual novels and games that borrow from them.
Jason White
You forgot your fedora.
James Morgan
>if you don't like than you didn't play them
Landon Thompson
he said he hasn't played them retard.
Aiden Reed
I know, he was implying that since he didn't like the games than never played them
Julian Jackson
FF XV no contest.
The truly patrician JRPG.
Kevin Butler
Not really excited for either. FFXV looks less and less fun as time goes on, and I wasn't really a fan of the formula of P3 and P4 with the calendar and time management aspects to the point that even though P5 looks like a massive improvement in dungeon crawling over those two I'm still pretty sure I wouldn't enjoy the full package at all.
More excited for Tales of Berseria and Dragon Quest XI for the big four.
Thomas Jenkins
Both, but if I had to pick one it would be FFXV. It AAA status and the spectacle of it being a Final Fantasy game- the capacity to be great or fall flat on it's face is something I want to experience day 1.
P5 will be good but it just seems like more of the same which isn't a bad thing but I'm tired of some things it does.
Jaxon Hill
I'm excited for both, but looking forward to FFXV more. Persona 5 looks like it could be better than Persona 3 and 4 though, but I'm worried the dungeons are going to be boring as fuck yet again.
Julian Richardson
>persona >gameplay
People only like it for the menu design
Dominic Russell
No I like it cause I wanna collect all the demons And fight some bosses And listen to some sweet sweet music Every single track we've had access to was god tier
Benjamin Morris
>video game music
Benjamin Johnson
Fuck off with your attempts of pitting both fanbases against eachother
Ryan Williams
FFXV
Persona games have always been shite. I see no reason to expect 5 will be different.
Xavier Williams
Hey if you're gonna be a retard fine then
William Parker
I have a lot more faith in Atlus' Persona team in them producing a good game than in Squeenix's Final fantasy team. When was the last time Square made a good final fantasy game on the first attempt?
Logan Turner
Every fan reaction to FFXV from playing it has been negative. Every fan reaction to P5 from playing it has been positive. Just looking at the games it's obvious P5 will be better
Carson Powell
squeenix doesn't hold a candle to atlus these days. Persona 5 is guna blow ffxv tfo in terms of lasting legacy in the gaming community
Dominic Russell
.......
Juan Smith
Damn... Persona-cucks are delusional as FUCK.
Nathan Sanchez
I miss Squaresoft. I miss Enix. Mashing them together was a mistake.
Dominic Sullivan
Sure thing bud See you next bancruptcy
Isaac Roberts
XV should have been out five years ago. Persona 5 should have been out by now, but at least Atlus didn't tease the whole game for fucking ten years.
Anthony Myers
I didn't bother reading this thread so I'm assuming they are working off recent history. They are right that Persona has generated appeal off their last 2 games BUT very slowly in the West, they were already hits in Japan for a long time. Final Fantasy is a mixed reception, and expectations can never be built up for it since they fuck up a lot.
This next FF game, should be able to impress, but not the people in the West, while Persona has a bit more universal appeal due to stylish character exposition.
Carson Smith
Nier
Jose Nelson
It's remotely possible but unlikely that Persona 5 ends up being an actually good game. So that one.
Daniel Campbell
2 month delay of FFVX has killed my hype. It's a bit of a red-flag because they made such a thing of the september release date. Makes me think Square aren't exactly confident in the games quality.
Lucas Brown
You say this while posting a bullshot.
No. The game is garbage.
Nolan Brown
I was somewhat doubtful but still had hope for FFXV until the platinum demo hit. If they're comfortable with releasing it it must at least meet some kind of quality standard they have, and that standard must be incredibly far beneath mine. The physics interaction shit feels like a no-effort unity asset swap game, and the combat was unresponsive and boring. I legitimately don't think I've ever played a game that felt worse to play than the platinum demo.
Persona 5 is looking good, can't wait for my copy to get here. Yuuki Aoi playing a midget hacker? Sign me up.
Liam Thomas
The one coming out this year.
Lucas Flores
We don't have a single fucking clue of what the story of FF XV will be.
Brayden Lee
>I legitimately don't think I've ever played a game that felt worse to play than the platinum demo. It blows my mind when people defend the combat. I literally do not believe that they aren't retards of the highest caliber or shills.
Josiah Perez
Both because I'm not retarded.
Grayson Foster
I'm more excited for Tales of Berseria than either of those two. But of those two? Persona 5.
I'm getting all three, though.
Owen Carter
Speak for yourself. You obviously have an absence of taste when it comes to video games. I found PD to have superior design compared to most AAA mainstream games released this year like Doom and Uncharted 4. Played it for a lot longer as well.
Samuel Wright
It's Lion King
Julian Brown
You played a shitty demo for 14 hours.
You are beyond autistic. You can't argue this.
Jack Flores
You're comparing trash from one garbage can with the fucking sewer. You had more fun licking discarded diapers than you did swimming in raw sewage? Good for you, buddy.
Jace Ramirez
That's an older pic. Playtime is more than 17 hours now. I'm sorry that you cannot appreciate masterfully crafted games like I can.
Anthony Reyes
How? I mean I haven't played Doom or Uncharted 4, but even just moving and jumping feels disgusting in PD. Like, I understand that people have different opinions and shit, but the controls just seem impossible to like.
And yes, I was speaking for myself.
Gavin Murphy
You're speaking for a vast majority of people. The demo and subsequently the game sucks ass.
Liam Rogers
>Persona-cuck fanboy detected
Aiden Jones
>cuck fanboy Who said anything about Persona? Why are you talking like you're autistic?
Elijah Allen
Berseria exceeded my expectations. P5 looks like a step up from all the footage they have released, should be good unless they completely drop the ball with the script/combat or something, which seems unlikely. FFXV in my eyes was doomed from the sheer scope of the project. Particularly combat-wise it seems to suffer from the same problem Tales had in recent years (dumbing down the combat mechanics in an attempt to attract the more casual crowd than wouldn't be interested in a ARPG with some semblance of deep otherwise) I am glad Aoi Yuuki voices the navigator so we can hear her through the majority of the game.
Benjamin Kelly
>Berseria exceeded my expectations.
What about Berseria makes it different than any other Tales of game ever ?
Joshua Moore
It's weird. I'm actually looking forward to FFXV more because I want to know if that game actually manages to be good or we have another train wreck on our hands whereas I already know that Persona 5 is probably gonna be pretty good
It isn't. If anything it is a return to form after recent entries were underwhelming in regards to content by Tales standards.
Samuel Williams
i don't have any faith in square at this point, not after ten years of horrifying FF13 and its sequels p5? who knows, not a big fan of persona but it looks way better than some open world garbage
Gabriel Richardson
>You can't drive the car.
Cancelled my pre-order when I heard that. Up until that point I figured "well even if the game sucks at least I can chill out and drive around the world" LOL NOPE
Jayden Evans
Obviously P5 because XV is looking to be a right mess and a huge flop that hopefully finally kills SE.
Nathaniel Nguyen
YES.
Dominic Sullivan
Persona 5
I have zero interest in Westernized Fantasy XV and this is coming from someone who has bought all mainline FF games (some even couple of times) and bunch of spin offs.
Benjamin Cooper
At this point I would even play Neptunia game before FF XV and I hate Compile Hearts.