Alright Sup Forums I need your help I have beaten every boss with the main characters in the binding of Isaac...

Alright Sup Forums I need your help I have beaten every boss with the main characters in the binding of Isaac afterbirth EXCEPT The Lost and The Keeper and I need some tips for The Lost and some help on how to grind coins to put in the greed machine to unlock Keeper and Holy Mantle
I'm not gonna use a guide cause I'm not a faggot so I came here to ask you guys for tips since most of you here have got the 1001% Achievement
Help me please

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>I'm not gonna use a guide cause I'm not a faggot so I came here to ask you guys for tips since most of you here have got the 1001%
>not going to use a guide
>tell me how to do it
>I'm not a faggot

I have bad news for you, son.

I just thought I came here to ask the professionals at this game and some faggot who says the same thing as the next guide does

There is only one real tip, if you aren't looking to exploit the coins.
youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsQAXx_ao0

>how do i Lost

Git gud, there's all to it.

>how to grind coins to put in the greed machine

Do it the regular way, randomize a character and simply donate money at the end.

There are ways to make the process like infinitely easier but you didn't want a guide so

git gud

The Lost is ezmodo now, at least compared to what he used to be. Literally all you need to do is git gud.

>I'm not gonna use a guide cause I'm not a faggot so I came here to ask you guys for tips
Think about where you're fucking up in this statement.

If you get the Holy Mantle for The Lost whenever you get hit you can do a pussy strat & cheese it by exiting the run just to reload it, you'll have to redo the room but you'll also gain your hit back.

Nice

Lemme explain what my statement meant
I'm not gonna use a guide cause it's just gonna be a repeat of any other guides
You guys are probably professionals of this game and know everything so I came to ask you instead

So, what, you want tips on how to git gud instead of how to cheese shit or something?

I want to learn how to cheese or if that ones that work how to git gud because my dodging skills with the lost isn't very good

Why is the Keeper such shit?

>Greed Mode
>Find D20
>Beat floor without picking up coins
>Use D20
>Open the chests the D20 spawns & use a battery it also spawns
>Rinse & repeat
>Become overpowered
Have fun, enjoy cheesing Greed Mode now also.

Going to friends for help is a timeless tradition in video gaymes, don't knock it

Thanks man

I should probably also add you should pick up nickles & dimes only for the most part so you can purchase a shitload from the Shop. Also try hard to get a Battery-related Item, it'll help a shitload.

there's exploits for both, but they're so time-consuming that you may as well just play the game with what you've got rather than spam R for Holy Mantle or whatever.

the only real ways to beat the game with both characters is by either getting really lucky with drops or by being very good at BoI. there's no special magic formula that'll make your next run the GOAT winner.

if it helps, i had more trouble with Maggie and Lilith than i did with Keeper or Lost. some people are better at some things than others. keep at it, you'll get there soon enough.

Keeper unlocks aren't worth it, but the Lost items are. maybe do Lost first to make your time easier.

>Cheese
Reset abuse for a first room treasure room is doable. I'd go for damage or good tear rate items as a starter item, maybe flight if you're playing as the Keeper.
D20 abuse is a thing, and explains it quite clearly.
Flight+Spectral is abusable against ground enemies if you hover over rocks and fire from there. Can also work against slow flying enemies, but this gets riskier later on in the game.

>Tips
Memorize the number of base damage tear shots enemies in the Basement/Cellar/Burning Basement need to take before they die. Memorization of patterns is highly important as well, but less so now that The Lost has been buffed to have spectral tears.
If you can't live without the Holy Mantle, getting a fuckton of damage and trying to blast your way through before you kick it is your next best bet at survival, but it's really risky. This won't work well against Hush though, so have fun with that.
Early game and very late game are going to be the hardest parts of your run, with the former's issue being lack of items, and the latter being the sheer number of bullets and enemies. This is where pattern memorization comes into play.

I'm playing on Xbox :^)

Does that really make a difference? Hold your controller at a 35 degree angle, I guess

Get the glowing hourglass when you do greed runs. You can beat him dump in coins then use the hourglass to fight him again then dump in more coins.

Continue process until you get 999 and bust the machine. It's grind but you can finish it in a day or multiple play sessions.

Speaking of Isaac Afterbirth,
Edmund posted pic related yesterday.
Beneath it is Bum-bo intro of some description and beneath that is another preview of the Time Fcuk sequel.

You already fucked up.
The trick to BoI, Especially the lost is TARGETED UNLOCKS.
Very few unlocks are actually useful to you, and in fact, not unlocking them are directly superior to unlocking them. For example, if you ONLY unlock pertho and jera, whenever one of their runetypes would drop, it'll always be pertho or jera. All of eves items are bad. All of maggies items are bad... Etc. You don't want these things cluttering your runs, you want to unlock the things you want which improve runs, then go back later to do completionist.

"I already unlocked it all user what do I do!"

You reset scum. Theres a small pool of items that'll win you the game by virtue of getting them on the first floor. Gnawed leaf is the most obvious. Gnawed leaf + one orbital will beat the entire game for you.

"I dont want to reset scum thats boring!"

So is binding of issac, either meta game or git gud on challenges made by a bitter man who hates binding of issac.

>Treasure rooms In the womb
Holy shit how op is that? Especially if you have Chaos
>Shops in Womb
>Shops in Seoul
If you have 99 coins and steam sale and restock you can pretty much buy all the shop items

Afterbirth+ will be the best update

Trinkets look great, and I'm pretty interested in the Bumbo game from the looks of it.

I never played the original Time Fcuk and the video he posted looks headache-inducing. Hopefully it's not so bad when you're playing it.

Not that OP, actually. It's a really good Trinket, but there's more powerful ones out there.

>Afterbirth+ will be the best update
But it could be so much better.
>Afterbirth never released and Edmund ended on a good note with everyone by just releasing Modding Tools instead of adding 3.4 billion Co-Op Babies and bad Neutral pills

Everything in that blog post looks and sounds great, I'm impressed. Looks like Breadmund still got it after all

There really is no point in unlocking co op Babies if
A:Theres no online co op
Or
B:You don't own a extra controller to play 2 players

I'd say on Curved Horn and Cancer can compete with these. They're easily S-tier, run-changing trinkets.

Afterbirth was worth it for the synergies and some fun items.

everything in edmunds posts means sometihng. let me decode

>IDIOTS
means "it's doing it! on the sly". hints at machine-based characters or levels to come, that we are not aware of. the fact he calls us IDIOTS solidifies that we do not yet know what's to come.

>flux
a flux is a state of continuing change, halted only when a higher power seeks to do so. BoI itself has been in a state of flux since forever, with Edmund/Nicalis constantly tweaking and altering - from the broken Azazel to the Eternal Update for BoI:WotL. since Afterbirth+ is confirmed to be the last update to BoI:R besides balance patches, the song 'flux' is probably part of some open-ended chapter that will lead in to player-generated and/or totally random (e.g. classic ROGUE) play-until-you-die kind of level. this would fit in with Edmund's constant expanding on what the hardcore audience wants from BoI:R.

>new trinkets
they are what they are. somewhere to dump keys and coins in between Mom and Hush/Dark Room/Chest. OR does this hint at something beyond all of that - endgame is perfectly serviceable as it is, why do we need the thrown bone of shops and treasure in Womb? by that point you already know if you're beating whichever route you're going for by skill or by thrill. adding the option of further enhancements at the Womb obviously means there's more after that.

>Time Fcuk 2 teaser
if that's what TF2 is going to be after all this time then it's not worth the wait. looks like a phone game, which EM has been trying to get into for quite a while (remember SMB for iphone? what happened to that?)

>Afterbirth+ releases
>mod game so that you always start with Black Candle

And instantly the game was twice as good.

It's a damn shame Mewgenics is also on permanent hold.

I was about to mention Polaroid+Soul Heart abuse, but I forgot that it's an item now in Rebirth. Thinking about it more, yeah, they're probably going to be some of the best trinkets in the game.

Why aren't there more good trinkets, Edmund?

>Literally making the game easier

STOP

It's better than having more shit like what the Keeper and pre-buff Lost were like.

I don't trust him after the last DLC bit. Did they ever fix the issues with Afterbirth like the Stop Watch for example? It's been a while since I last played. Even with me not trusting him I still want to play more of the game badly.

Better than Afterbirth, where he literally made the game artificially harder.
>Bad Neutral Pills
>Useless good Pills
>New useless items in pool by default
>New useless unlocks
>Instead of making an engaging fight that incorporates stages and (heaven forbid) extra visuals, just add damage reduction so people can't nuke these 2 bosses
>Gating content solely out of spite over the Lost

The Stop Watch nerf was an improvement.

What do you guys think about those two new items
-Black Hole
And that item which makes trinkets permanent

definitely. i really like what Binding of Isaac became with Rebirth, and possibly Afterbirth, but i feel that the team of Edmund + whatever programmer is doing his bitchwork this week aren't really made for sequels, or even iterations, SMB being the exception. mewgenics looked neat; i'd rather that than whatever was teased at the bottom of the BoI update.

Reset till you get this item.
Live till you get your welfare orbital via cube of meat.
AFK a lot.

The only boss this won't work on is megastan, because he'll push you slightly which is annoying, but you can just poke him to death between phases.

BEST CASE SCENARIO:
Gnawed leaf
Tauros
Sacrificial Dagger + meatcube/Bandaidball


Edward is pure salt, he nerfs anything people use to beat his singleplayer game for being "too op." Meanwhile, he still can't beat mom consistently (Seriously watch him play some time hes fucking trash it's hilarious)

They are both really good items and look real fun. Can't wait to test them out

Forgot to add to get the hourglass so you can reset after donating refight greed and donate again

>Not gnawed leaf and daddy longlegs

>a developer is bad at his own game
KEK

GL + Daddy Long Legs > GL + any orbital. still a cheesy as fuck tactic, but if it's worth doing then it's worth doing right.

and seconding Edmund having an abstract (at best) perspective on what BoI players want. but i'd rather he had the chair than someone like Tyrone.

My thoughts on these 2 and the 2 from the last update.
>Void
A "Win Moar" item. Helps you considerably when drops are good, is still good when drops are bad, you can crunch shit like Breakfast into raw Stats and Consumables you don't want into Flies for ease of next room, nothing big.
>Smelter
Same deal, a "Win Moar" item, if you get it early, you just condense every Trinket you get for when you eventually drop it for something better, assuming you don't get Void+Smelter.
>Silver Dollar
Pretty fucking good.
>Bloody Crown
Slightly better than Silver Dollar on a mediocre run, good addition.

Although, I have to wonder something.
What happens if you use the Dead Sea Scrolls and it rolls Void while there's a Spacebar item in the room? Does it now have that effect permanently in addition to the random roll or does it have no effect?

N3DS player here

kill me

>having trouble with the Lost post-Afterbirth
Nigger, I got his achievements before they gave him the D4 and Holy Mantle.
Stop being such a fucking casual.

Are you guys hoping for any new transformations?
I'm hoping for a spider-like transformation since spider items are literally everywhere in this game

You can use a mod to put the donation machine + a dollar on the first floor of Greed Mode. It's the only thing I cheated for since I couldn't stand grinding that shit after unlocking everything else.

If the spider transformation is not added to the game in afterbirth+ I swear I'll a make mod solely to add it in the game

More transformations are always welcome as far as I'm concerned.

>Spiderbaby
>Spiders are all friendly
>All shots slow enemies a bit
>When hit, shit out spiders
Do it.

This. If you didn't get Platinum God before Afterbirth then you're fucking bad at video games.

I only want more transformations if any of them are more than "you can fly now lol"

Who /didntplaymuchofafterbirthbutstillhype/ here

Don't forget
>spiderwebs don't slow down isaac anymore
Might not make it too OP though since spider items are easy to get and are generally pretty good anyway

A new Twin Stick Dungeon Crawler game just released today.
Anyone know if it's any good?

Meant to reply to

open up a thread if you want to shill your game, there's no shame in advertising if you're honest

Looks cool and has very positive reviews. wish it had a demo.

Nigger, are you retarded?
I'm burnt out on Isaac and want to know if that crap is shit or worth a play.
Not everyone is a shill on Sup Forums.

Oh of course not, but basically saying "I'm doing it on my own" then asking for help is still help.

help is different from looking up a guide.

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is this from that big mod pack

I can't tell if that guy was just really bad or what.

Jesus, did somebody make this with Afterbirth+ tools?

>another mask of infamy
No thanks

easy you just dont fucking bother because its a waste of time and the core gameplay of isaac isn't interesting or involving enough to make it worth it. At most youll have a .01% chance per run of seeing a game winning item, wow, you're totally wanna gonna keep slogging through the rest of the terrible unfun shit Afterbirth added just to be OP for about 20 minutes.

Dollar Bill + Pyro + Skelton Key = Billion Dollar Suit

9 Hearts
Maxed All Stats

Hell, I have over 300 hours in isaac and I never got Super Bum

Op here just tried the d20 trick

HOLY SHIT
THE AMMOUNT OF ITEMS
THANK YOU TO EVER SUGGESTED THAT IDEA

People say this is the worst board
No it isn't
Thanks Guys for all your help
Continue discussing Afterbirth+ imma go unlock me holy mantle
thank you all

Because Edmund seems to be under the false notion that Isaac is a SUPER HARDCORE SKILLBASED game and not just a flash game people people like to grind through for cool item combinations.

>People say this is the worst board
People must never have been to Sup Forums.

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>Afterbirth+ will be the best update
Yea, because with mod support maybe someone with a brain can fix this shitty fucking game. Shame I have to buy mod support just to do this though

Bumbo looks like it could be pretty interesting

Well, after afterbirth we need SOME items that actually have a use

Fucking might as well just play The Purist challenge

>Hell, I have over 300 hours in isaac and I never got Super Bum
You never got restock + steam sale x2? Or sackboy + D20?

There's a few combos that completely break the game and allows you to get super bum quite easily, it happened like twice to me last week

I don't know what you're referring to, link?

Jesus fucking christ, he plays so bad

What are good mods? I haven't modded my copy yet as I haven't finished it yet.

Also,
>Keeper
Fuck you edmund, I was supposed to be excited, not fucking rage.

>Goes for the heart when the back of the Visage would be a much easier target in multiple instances
>Moves right after popping his Gnawed Leaf and not using a few moments to gather his bearings before going hog wild
This guy is awful, but that fight looks really engaging. What is this from?

tell me your secrets

>teratoma orbital
>mask of infamy upgrade
>new floor

i haven't played a mod with any of this, and i've played a lot of mods.

>Got a Ludo+Split Shot+Lump of Coal run going

I like this.

>Brimstone+Split Shot doesn't give you a Christmas Tree death beam
Still salty.

Just bad.

Holy fuck how old are you

What's your longest streak, Sup Forums?

sixteen million

That's pretty high.

>learned everything know about Isaac from Northernlion

Who /egg/ here?

>it's a low damage run and NL slowly goes insane episode

That poor man. Who makes him do this?

D R Y B A B Y

youtube.com/watch?v=KPXnP_LWGts

>watching people play videogames

ew. did you get better?

>he doesn't watch let's plays

It's like you hate fun. And yes, it did.