It's like dice doesn't even know where to make elements of a game realistic, or fun gameplay

It's like dice doesn't even know where to make elements of a game realistic, or fun gameplay.

>Tanks are realistic, basically indestructible unless troops can get close enough to use anti-tank gadgets
>Sit at the edge of the map with a sniper rifle that shoots rockets

>Cool elite soldiers
>One of them spits fire with a realistic flamethrower
>Randomly placed in boxes for lucky players to find instead of requiring any skill to get bad ass weapons

>Flat desert map
>Infantry is useless except for planting in rush

I still don't know my opinion on the sheer amount of automatic weapons in a WW1 shooter.

Why is this allowed?
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Also tanks and planes being the best way to deal with enemy tanks is pointless, considering all of the vehicle slots are always taken unless you're sitting on the map screen waiting for one

What about this guy? I haven't played the game but apparently it's in it.

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Not that hard to kill, just get good. If you aren't able to solo a tank whenever you want despite having a completely shit team, you just aren't a good player yourself.

Jesus. I'd never thought I'd be so unimpressed with a game in my entire life. That is the dullest gameplay I have ever seen.

I never thought it was possible to make such an uninspired game out of a relatively unique setting. Most games are like this now, actually. It's like suddenly most developers have become creatively bankrupt.

Honestly if you are such a loner faggot that can't play with people of decent skill, or lack the capacity to work that out whenever you jump on, you deserve to feel like a chump and easy kill.

Nothing stops you from having the experience you want, not withstanding changing servers if the random teams are all shit house in skill level, yes it's possible 63 other players are bad.

Typically as well it is the 8 top players on your team that determine the war, unless the lemmings push cap points hard. Yet even a good player can hold a point solo, made easier when they have a decent squad.

Implying that a squad of infantry players can deal with a tank.

Only thing winning you the game is if your tank players are better than their tank players, and that's not going to change on release.

>there will never be a game like this

It spawns in the box at E

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god damn it

>people running around with automatics everywhere

FUCK this shit.

...

The trailer managed to make the game look exactly the way I imagined the gameplay would be and it was shit.

they arent even satisfying to use. almost as bad as GTA shooting

proves how terrible players are

>Spawn on point
You're in the middle of the fucking road getting shot by a tank
>Spawn on squad
>Can't see what the fuck he's doing from way up here in the respawn menu so I hope he's ok
He's getting shot at by 3 fucking people just as I spawn
>Tanks? Better switched to engineer and fire some rockets
>Rockets don't exist
>Tickle it with anti tank frags or go kamikaze the fucking thing
>Spawn in plane
It's a fucking 2v1 or sometimes even 3v1 because 2 or 3 people can fit in one fucking plane.
Jesus fucking christ this game is trash. I'm glad there was an open beta. Saved me some money.

The really big games are all design by committee these days. It's seriously just a bunch of suits and they're throwing bullshit and seeing what sticks like in that one exploitable comic.

Why do you guys even consider buying EA's games anymore? I on a four year boycott and going strong.

I'd like to say I've been strong but every so often something like Dead Space comes along... I shouldn't even get involved really... I should know it will only end in pain

The last EA game I bought was BF3. It's almost been 5 years.

>skill to get bad ass weapons

Play the game for a few days, boom get the OP weapon. Not much skill there.

>>Randomly placed in boxes for lucky players to find instead of requiring any skill to get bad ass weapons

Sup Forums 2016: pickups bad, killstreaks good.

lol.

Pickups < Killstreaks < Neither and just balancing the fucking game.

He should have said good game, most people want good games.

pickups are balanced.

It started in BF3 and was brought to full effect in BF4.

RPGs used to be insanely powerful but infantry babies whined in BF3 and got them nerfed hard. In BF4 they started out really weak against infantry but Engineers in general were really good against tanks due to faster moving rockets and great SLAM mines. Unfortunately Tonk babies whined and got SLAMs nerfed into uselessness and then got RPGs nerfed again, eventually they nerfed ammo packs so that you have to stand on one for like 20 seconds to re supply ONE rocket. All the meanwhile tanks continued to get buffed and due to every map being an open field it meant easy 50-0 games.

Basically DICE loves their tank whores and keeps nerfing infantry counters to them, instead of balancing vehicles they just want them to farm infantry all game long and ruin the experience for the other 63 people in the game.

>kill streaks>pickups

you take that shit back, right now user

More like loadouts good lol
Myself personally pickups are the only thing i hated about arena shooters and I loved loadouts in quake live. No i have never played halo

>Myself personally pickups are the only thing i hated about arena shooters and I loved loadouts in quake live

rofl

>liking loadouts in quake

fuck you, people like you are part of why Doom 4's multiplayer is shit

its not shit because of loadouts though. lots of the most played quake shit of all time used loadouts (or rather starting with all the weapons)

its shit because most of the modes are god awful and the maps arent good/vertical enough and they didnt balance it. fucking chaingun best weapon.

Quake didn't have random pickups.
Learning the map added to the skill.

>Learn where all the elite classes are
>Never get one due to RNG

>people made Doom 4's multiplayer
>said people make video games

I haven't played Battlefield since 2142. For some reason I had a really vivid memory of conquest mode in that game, I was in the alleyways of one of the city maps, lying prone while bullets and EMP blasts rained all around me. My squad and I were to push B point which was being defended by the enemy. Pretty much half the team was being caught in a stalemate at the town square and we were only able to push and secure the objective after a few well timed artillery/emp blasts + a bombing run from the gunship players.

When I started up Battlefield 1 today I can't even try to get a similar experience. All that happens is that people keep sprinting around in circles trying to quickscope or run-and-gunning with the fucking automatics, literally all my deaths were coming from behind me or getting sniped by some tank far away, and the points keep pingponging back and forth between solo or duo players who decide to just sneak around like rats and get point E instead of a major offensive on point C. It just doesn't seem like there is a central hotspot/big battle occurring anywhere at all, everyone is just running around like headless chickens shooting shit. Furthermore, there are barely any revivals now since everyone just holds the space bar to skip revive and redeploy into a less-populated area to rat the fuck out of another point.

Am I just a cynic or does battlefield suck now?

>Am I just a cynic or does battlefield suck now?
Battlefield sucks.

>There are barely any revivals
There are none because nobody plays medic.
Splitting assault and removing engineer was a bad decision.

WE WANT THE ADHD I MEAN COD AUDIENCE
FUCK STRATEGY

>AAA game
>Strategy

What the fuck did they do to the snipers in this game, they have almost no bullet drop.

what a bunch of negative nancies you guys are

I'm enjoying it really well. Reminds me of 1942 in a way.

The weapon balance in this game is so bizarre, everything feels either overpowered or useless. There's no middle ground or flexibility.

>reminds me of 1942
Interesting considering the game is set in 1918

>decide to just sneak around like rats and get point E
Well, defend it.

All stupid faggots going for C. While D, G or F and especially A and E stays without any defences.

People don't know how to lob grenades for some reason, a synchronized squad throw of grenades on a tank fucks them up pretty quick.

>Tanks are realistic, basically indestructible unless troops can get close enough to use anti-tank gadgets

just use anti armor rounds with the sniper that damages them pretty good

>synchronized squad
>BF
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

I want to buy it even more for all of these reasons.

Ok guys.
Why the fuck you need to press f1-f6 to change seats in vehicle, and not just 1-6 or scroll wheel?

Only reason I play medic is I like the rifles.
It's fucking infuriating to run out into the middle of a gunfight to revive someone, only to find out they just quck respawned.
Nigga it tells you how close I am, just give me a second.

Except that the tanks can just sanic around outside of grenade range, and if you get close just drive the fuck away from grenades.
Tanks are too fast. They're faster than they are in any other BF game, and there are no anti tank rockets. Only anti tank guns that leave you incredibly exposed, have awful fire rate 3 times slower than a tank, and other tanks to deal with armor.
Fucking bad game design. Bad bad bad bad bad.

What the shitting fuck, EA?

>Vehicles can be tough to kill and easy to rack up kills

Well would you look at that.

Tanks can be disabled easy as shit. It only takes one scout and 3 K rounds to disable a track.

Stop being a whiny fucking baby and learn 2 play.

>Tanks are fast meme

They're slow as FUCK. Light tanks top speed is the same as a sprinting soldier. Fuck off with your "fast tanks" faggot.

They reach their top speed almost immediately, can turn incredibly fast, cross any terrain both easier and faster than infantry can, all while being able to shoot their main gun every single second.
They are fast as fuck.
They can move as fast as a sprinting soldier and kill 10 people in a couple seconds because you don't even have to be remotely accurate with the cannon.

Fuck off you marketing piece of shit.

All they fucking did was take Battlefront and throw a fucking WWI skin on it. They even fucked up CONQUEST. Why change it from what its been since BF1942?

I dont even think DICE LA is going to be able to save this one.

well if only verdun has 64 player mode or more, that would be better

Why the fuck dose everything look so new and shiny? None of the guns or vehicles have any wear and tear on them, they look like they just got made. Just look at this image it looks like a toy model.

>same as a sprinting soldier
>implying this is bad

Does anyone know the website glitch to unlock guns?

It can only fire 6 shots in 15 seconds though. It takes forever to reload. It moves slow as fuck.

If you're in a slugfest with another tank, don't even bother trying "evasive maneuvers" because you move so fucking slow, they'll never miss you.

I'm starting to think you haven't even fucking played the game and you watched about 5 minutes of YT footage.

Probably because the game takes place in WWI and they literally did just get made you fucking imbecile.

Where did I imply this was bad?

The fact that you seem to think the tanks and the flamethrowers are realistic leads me to believe you're a literal retard.

It really isn't that fun though. I went for point E and just laid prone there for 5 minutes. IMO Battlefield shines the most when you have massive battles revolving around a single point. The experience of getting pinned down by machine gun fire, dying, getting revived and mounting a successful team push onto a point is awesome. But now, I rarely see more than one soldier together at once.

I have played the game.
Everyone just bails the first time they get hit because the follow up shot is already on the way by the time the slow as shit projectile lands and the second shot almost always cripples a tank. Tanks kill everything fast, they're completely overpowered. Tank duels come down to who shoots first because tanks fire so fucking fast it's retarded.

Why don't they have actual ammo reserves?
Why don't they fire about 5 times slower?
Why don't they move about 3 times slower?
Why can they drive up fucking cliffs?
Why does exiting BF1 cause my screen to go completely white, not actually exit out of BF1, and make me have to ctrl alt del exit the program manually then wait 5 minutes for it to work through closing the goddamn program?
Why do I get unplayable lag every time I spawn in a new time, even if I spawn in on the exact same area I was just in?

Does it work now? Tried to play yesterday a few times and they were having server issues

>friend keeps trying to argue with me that all of these fucking automatic weps and make believe shit actually were in use in WWI
Fucking kill me.

There would still be some sand, dirt, mud and shit on everything. It's not like that shits gonna stay clean as a whiles after being dragged threw the mud and sand for hours on end.

The point is that tank players stay away from soldiers and just shoot them from a distance. Grenades can't stop that.

Heavy armor and flame thrower are on Objective Bravo. While heavy armor and machine gun are on Objective Foxtrot. At the beginning of each round I see cavalry rush there on their horses to pick it up and take the objective. Then they usually rush C because it's a close quarters fuck fest of narrow alleyways and buildings. Perfect for them. There is also a third heavy armor pick up with what looks like a bolt action anti vehicle rifle at objective Echo out at the Desert Base. This is great for sniping infantry, planes, and all tanks.

Snipers get out gunned by medics seeing as they get a wicked semi auto with long range scope and no bullet drop off from range penalty.

Assault feels situational because of it's lack of range. But can still be really useful within CQB.

And finally support feels underpowered. Their bullet damage does not seem to be up to par with most other weapons. Might need a buff. Their trip mines are really fun though. Really hard to spot with the way people sprint in and out of door ways.

The map just isn't great but I imagine its visually the best, so they went with it

Most the gameplay I've seen was the blimp map so I'm surprised we didn't get that

I seriously can't believe they made a game this bad.

Everyone complains about all the problems BF3/BF4 had, but they were still playable. This is unplayably bad. They have to have intentionally make it this bad and I don't understand why.

Looks like BF4 will still remain the latest good Battlefield after two more tries. Guess we'll just have to wait another 2+ years for a WWII version.

What's wrong with Hardline? I bought it for 5 bucks and haven't downloaded it yet because it's 100 fucking gigabytes. I've never heard anyone criticize it beyond "it's bad".

At least in the end 2143 wasn't wasted on a game this bad.

Its a battlefield game but with cops and robbers. Tell me where its good.

That sounds 11/10, you've done a bad job here.

are you really trying to justify a $5 purchase this badly?

What the fuck are you even talking about, I haven't even played it, I'm literally ASKING you why it's bad.

like this gun, the lighting is all wrong for wood.

go play it and form your own opinions. maybe you and the 14 other people who still play it can talk about how good it is and what a good concept cops and robbers in a fucking battlefield game is.

My biggest problem with the game is not having any idea of what's going on around me.

At least in previous games you could get around and know of enemy positions. Maybe it's the map?

>literally asking what's bad about it so I know whether to bother with a 100 GB download
>"IDK IT'S JUST BAD OKAY"

Physically Based Rendering™

>7 Gb for a beta with 1 map
How?

I can't remember the last time I bought an EA game. I almost bought battlefront though but didn't like everyone being forced to play as female stormtrooper. Right now I'm tempted to buy need for speed.

>tfw actually enjoy playing as the cavalry

feels pretty good charging 420noscopeFags with your saber and running them down Mountain Blade style

DICE caters to them because tank/air spergs are literal spergs and whine the loudest/most often.

>what is remap controls menu
Change the hotkeys then.

planes suck imo

you either have free reign, which is nice, but more likely you're stuck in a dogfight for the entire match, and shooting down other planes is practically pointless since:
A. You get hardly any points
B. Planes respawn fast
C. People bail and you don't get credit
D. Tickets are not tied to deaths
E. You're not helping your team capture points

You want Planetside 2 then.

Planetside 2 was my replacement for BF and it made me regret paying for BF 4, if you want massive battles, you want planetside. It does that like no other game

Mmm I tried a game a while ago, havent played Battlefield since 2
It was fun, altho I never really knew what my team was doing, I guess I was just being a little dense. The most fun part of the game was definately when the sandstorm started and nobody could see shit, we were just running around like headless chickens trying to make eachother out

6 year-olds whining on internet forums about how their sniper rifles dont shoot where they point.

I feel like melee weapons might have been changed up so bolt actions are more viable at close range. Right now, you can pop somebody in the chest and mash F for a quick kill, if you don't get the headshot.

Straight pull K98 is also unironically great unscoped.

If they aren't going to budge on having few automatic weapons I think it's good that bolt actions are really good this time around so you can actually play it like a WW1 game

Its battlefield. They stopped innovating when they released Bad Company 2 and just slap a new skin on what they have when they make a "new game" including Battlefront. Plus, we're talking about EA here. I don't see why anyone is suprised.

Maybe if all classes could take bolt actions. With the game as it is right now there is literally no reason for medic/assault/support to exist because they're useless.

i feel like none of this shit existed in world war 1. they had all these nice ass guns and tanks and shit?

Got this yesterday and love it.

botnet :^)