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>nothing is missing, it's suppose to be shit
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Konami says MGS5's ending isn't missing, so everyone can calm down about it
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Best thing Konami has done in a while, just tell everyone to fuck off and move on with their lives
So it pretty much destroys every chance for the Kojima ruse or a complete release of the original vision, not Konami's one.
You know what I miss? My fucking 60€
I just love how there's people who defend the "ending"
Yes, kid Liquid and Mantisjust stole a gigantic robot but no one ever heard of it or seen it and it just disappears randomly at some point
Who the fuck plays metal gear for the story
>So it pretty much destroys every chance for the Kojima ruse
No, it finally stops the ruse cruise memes. The ruse cruise was that there was no ruse cruise. Never was, never will. Kojima created a turd and managed the development time in horrible ways.
>or a complete release of the original vision
This was the original vision. Konami doesnt have any vision since they didnt write the game. They just plugged the cable off when they saw Kojima wasting millions and millions and the game being nowhere close to be done.
Parasites? Kojima wrote it
Language infections? Kojima wrote it
Psycho Mantis retcons? Kojima did it too.
And I can make you a list of Kojima lies that would put Sean Murray in shame.
Konami is just going straightforward. There is no more lies.
>Chapter 3? There is none. This is the game.
Finally the people behind MGS can be straightforward instead of hiding behind the le meme cruise.
It was obvious Konami wasnt going to make chapter 3 after Kojima left, and even if they did and it ended being mediocre (like the rest of the game) you would complain saying that Kojima would have done it better.
So this is for the best. No more lies. Its not destroying anything, just being straightforward with the truth.
>Wanting the company who made MG Survive to work on the true ending to the series
No thanks. Just let it die.
>It was the full game guys! We told you Kojima was a hack fraud!
Now who wants to buy MGSV:Survival?
this, to be honest
>We told you Kojima was a hack fraud!
Based. Are we in a new age of honest developers and publishers?
>t. Konami PR
>t. kojima cock sucker
>original vision
Mgsv is how kojima wanted it to be. If you find it a bad game then blame kojima.
>kojima is a genious, he never made a bad mgs game. Mgsv is shit because of Konami
>mgs4
>peace walker
You know the awful cutscenes from twin snakes? Kojima's idea
Kojima's vision fucking sucked anyway. Don't forget that retarded twist was still Kojima's idea from the start. The story was bad on a fundamental level, not just an unfinished one. Konami are to blame for all the repeated missions and bullshit, but Kojima still wasted money and more importantly wrote a boring, stupid plot.
Kojima is a hack HACK!
I liked MGS4 and GZ. TPP was shit, though.
All of this.
I've followed the series since MG1.
I remember playing Ghost Babel on GBC linkup in school. Bought every game on release.
MGSV is an irredeemable turd and honestly the biggest insult is Kojima putting so much effort into Joosten in a feeble attempt to get laid and writing in that retarded ass rectal sphincter termite garbage to accommodate.
Kojima is the biggest hack of all of history, thank god I stopped taking anything that man says seriously at 4. What a piece of shit.
>So it pretty much destroys every chance for the Kojima ruse or a complete release of the original vision
It's almost been a fucking year already. Why the fuck do people still think it's a 'ruse'?
le no ruse cruse guys
I hope you eat your fucking keyboard when the nukes get disarmed.
>nothing is missing, it's suppose to be shit
sounds like bullshit similar to
>Raiden is supposed to be shit, so he's okay
>it's shit because it's SUPPOSED to be shit!
Where have I heard this excuse before?
>Where have I heard this excuse before?
people defending Raiden in MGS2
>Nothing is missing
>Even though part of the game tells you it's unfinished
I really liked MGSV. Gameplay was great. Just wish it had more (any?) boss battles.
Story was obvious the second you wake up in that hospital, so I never really paid much attention to it.
>Story was obvious the second you wake up in that hospital
At that point it's literally impossible to know 50% of the story, the part about the parasites and shit.
I don't know how a chapter 3 was supposed to make every shit decision kojima made up to that point not shit anyway.
Is MGS5 really that bad? I liked 2; loved 3, didn't play 4 because no PS3, emulated PW on PC but I found it boring.
Nearly 15 years on, jesus christ.
Well you probably won't like MGSV much then. It's pretty much peace walker 2 but even more retarded.
More retarded than AI boss. Let that sink in.
I think he means the whole not being Big Boss thing.
Hell, you could see where the game's going the second you see Shota Mantis and Fury Volgin. Just a bunch of half callbacks and big setpieces
>I think he means the whole not being Big Boss thing.
Obviously, I'm just saying that's not the whole story. So if you decide not to listen to the story from that moment on, you'll miss at least 50%.
Story was terrible and unfinished and I'm sad to see it never will be but at least there's some closure there.and hey, the gameplay is still fun and it's easy to pick it up and just do a mission every so often and set the deployments for offline mode.
It's not a bad game, it's just not what it could have been or was hyped to be.
>Nearly 15 years on, jesus christ.
Raiden was that bad in MGS2 and no amount of asspulls is going to change that.
At least we have 4 and Rising for good Raiden.
>you'll miss at least 50%
Let's be real. That's not a big loss. Listening to that old fuck talk about his precious parasites, Quiet being retarded, cuckman daddy otacon, and zombie face don't make things very compelling.
I don't hate the game the way people here do, but I'm not stupid enough to defend its narrative.
I'm not sure what exactly is good about Raiden being an edgelord. It's not much if at all better than being a pussy fag.
At least in 2 he had a personality and a lot of character development.
Shut downs the hope?
More like the game.
Will be like...
>remember that guy with the microbots?
Yeah, it's pretty shit. I sort of liked it, but I think that was more because of the promises of a good story that weren't fulfilled.
Doesn't negate my point though.
V isn't bad, but it could have been better. It has not a single mission better than its own 20 dollar demo, which demonstrates just how good the game could have been if it weren't open world.
>I really liked MGSV. Gameplay was great. Just wish it had more (any?) boss battles.
this is pretty much my opinion too.
I always liked the MGS boss battles, it's what made metal gear, metal gear, from the very first one, every single one had crazy fucking teams serve as boss fights. From shot gunner to sexy ladies in MGS4, I fucking loved the boss fights.
MGS 5 having almost no boss fights is a bigger crime than any of the other shit people complain about.
It's not included because they would have to actually develop videogames if they added it instead of repackaging and reselling you a game that's just a year old.
>At least in 2 he had a personality
a bad personality
>and a lot of character development.
which pales in comparison to the development in 4 and Rising
i complete mgs5 months ago, i though the ending what after kill the skull man and the metal gear, or there are more story content that is not the fukcking side quest? i knew i saw some previews os something like kid liquid in metal gear but i though that was side shit quest
All kojima has to do is say that it is missing.
I liked the open world and free form gameplay. It adds replayability you just can't get in a linear game. I agree, you lose something in the switch between styles but I like how it ended up working. I still play mgs V since the potential for dicking around is so high whereas I would only replay a previous metal gear for the story (mostly).
there's some story elements but it's buried in all those missions that are not side quests.
You are really not missing out on much except for:
Huey is a piece of shit that caused a viral outbreak to happen AND killed Strangelove
Liquid and Psycho Mantis steal the metal gear (NOTE THIS IS NEVER RESOLVED)
Quiet leaves
You mean you didn't enjoy such great boss battles like:
>Quiet who is just The End but in a smaller area is 10 times easier
>Starring "SKULLS" PARASITE UNIT
>4 Quiets at once
>Running away from a Metal Gear
>Starring "SKULLS PARASITE UNIT"
>Timed button presses with Eli
>Running away from Volgin on fire
>Starring "SKULL" PARASITE UNIT
>Shooting rockets at a Metal Gear which is so easy it makes you wonder why you ran the first time
>a bad personality
His personality is even worse in MGR, there isn't a single line in that entire game that isn't vomit inducing.
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>which pales in comparison to the development in 4 and Rising
Yeah, nah. The entire point of the game is that by the end he develops to resign control of the Patriots(and you) after completing his last mission.
He's this androgynous gayboy with a hero complex and you come to find out his backstory is even more metal than anyone else.
I don't care for Raiden, but Revengeance is terrible; like it was written for 15 year old fans of My Chemical Romance.
Fuck off, both MGS4 and Peace Walker were great.
>Open world adds replayability
>Barely finish is because of how empty and boring the world is
>try to replay, i can't because there's nothing to do.
>Somehow i can keep replaying MGS3
I hate this open world meme.
I almost had a heart attack when Salehthropus peeked behind a rock to find me.
all down to taste I guess. I liked going from outpost to outpost and knocking everyone out for a scan and in a tighter game like 3 I wouldn't be able to choose my routes or kits as easily. But I do wish I could just eat shit and use the medical kit in V
No it was garbage.
>get to checkpoint in a desert
>disable all soldiers
>repeat ad infinitum
Farcry tier.
>resign control of the Patriots(and you)
>(and you)
this bullshit?
V is the most misunderstood game since MGS2.
It's even more misunderstood than MGS2 because this time it's not only the story, it's the gameplay too.
Sure, the game has some glaring flaws. Like any MGS game really.
Overall it's still a very strong entry into the series, with arguably the best gameplay.
You have shit taste. Murder yourself
When liquid ran away with ray at the end of MGS2 and the games ends right after that people went on a autistic rampage on internet too?
the open world wasn't there to be like bethesda rpgs or GTA where you spend your time doing side shit. The open world was there to give the player more freedom in how to do the missions.
And it succeeded at that pretty well.
That's the Pantom Pain bro don't you get it? Kojima is a genius.
no, people were still raging about Raiden
It isn't a bad narrative.
What IS a bad narrative is -
>LOL Jack inside u r born 2 b the edgiest guy alive, born on the battlefield
>"ur rite bro time to LET ER RIP"
>*screamo music blares in the background*
Here's the thing: Konami isn't going to do right by the series, by Kojima, or even by the fans. This company hauled ass out of the industry, then when pachinko laws changed, is all "just kidding! Here's a MGS zombie game! Kids like zombies, right?"
The days of lavish budgets and genuine caring are over. Everyone who loved video games is gone from that company. So no, they aren't going to spend money developing the rest of that mission. Shit, I wouldn't be surprised if that footage wasn't in "the definitive experience" edition at all.
>THE ENDING WAS SUPPOSED TO BE CUT
>BUY OUR LEFT 4 DEAD GAME AND PLAY OUR PACHINKO
>AND DON'T FORGET TO BUY OUR RE-RERELEASE OF A YEAR OLD GAME WITH NO NEW CONTENT
>AND BUY MORE MB COINS :^)
i'm fucking feeling something, and it's not pain
How are you not laughing as you type that. Revengence was comedy gold
>Parasites? Kojima wrote it
>Language infections? Kojima wrote it
>Psycho Mantis retcons? Kojima did it too.
I had absolutely no problem with this, what I did have problems with, is the fact that it went from a linear story-progression with actual character writing and stage-like gameplay to a big open world with practically nothing in it, bringing in missions that are inferior to anything Peace Walker and Portable OPS had, reducing communication between characters to nothing, a practically mute main main character, reducing the codec in a mainline Metal Gear to being tips and tricks, a wasted opportunity to develop upon Liquid Snake as a characters, and so on.
He also did MG1 to MGS3.
But he's the captain of a single fuck up and suddenly it's:
>HACK HACK HACK HACK REEEEEEEEEEEEE, THE PEOPLE THAT PRODUCE THE MEDIA I ENJOY SHOULD BE INFALLIBLE. FUCK HIM FUCK HIM, I CAN'T TAKE HIM SERIOUSLY, HE JUST WANTED SOME DUTCH PUSS!
Kojima moved on, you clearly fucking haven't.
That's DOAX3 article, fucking cucks
>It isn't a bad narrative.
It was stupid unneeded bullshit. Like the rest of the Arsenal Gear section
Kojima cut it himself because it didnt fit with the narrative. Its a dissappointment but it makes sense when you think about it.
The gameplay is fucking spectacular, I only wish there was more varied content to play it in
I am laughing actually.
It's just so bad that it's hilarious
>>I don't care for Raiden, but Revengeance is terrible; like it was written for 15 year old fans of My Chemical Romance.
It's a Platinum game. Why were you taking it seriously?
The gameplay was always the least of MGSV's problems.
>He wasted all that weed on making rising and ran out of "ideas"
Fucking knew it.
>kojima cut it himself
excuses to defend konami's crap
i think that both parties are at fault though desu
kojima should have spent less time off banging joost and konami should have been more patient
>You know what I miss? My fucking 60€
>get a 40-100 hour game
>muh 60 $
the time Sup Forums went full retard.
>didn't fit with the narrative
that entire section at the start where you can't see red anymore.
the red hand
Eli's red hazard suit
Something happened, but cut because not fitting is bullshit
>It's a Platinum game. Why were you taking it seriously?
because he's defending MGS2
I bet MGS2 is your favorite, faggot.
>But he's the captain of a single fuck up
>a single fuck up
Yeah, no.
See, if Kojima had any integrity as a developer he'd have made whatever game he wanted to make rather than making a passive-aggressive shitfest like MGS4 that spat in its fanbases face in an attack on the people who wanted another Solid Snake game.
So what does Kojima do? Makes him an old cuck. We can debate on whether that is brilliant or idiotic, but the fact remains the game fucking sucks because of it.
>Kojima moved on
Moved on to what? All Kojima did previously was write B-Tier action movie scripts sutured onto a stealth-action game, somehow he managed to fall short of that relatively low standard by a hundred miles writing sophomoric story arcs like that of Quiet(who is like 80% of the game btw in a game that advertised itself as "wrapping up the loose ends") and her subsequent romance with "Snake's stunt double"
It's like they created this perfect sandbox with the best gunplay and stealth by far, but forgot to fill it with things to shoot and sneak by.
>because he's defending MGS2
No, I'm saying that as shitty as Raiden is that he's way worse in his iteration in MGR.
Get some reading comprehension dipshit, I was incredibly concise in stating this.
I think he cut it because the only way he could think of to get Liquid from V to 1 was to have Mantis yank the parasites out of his throat and fly away from the island hand in hand. It's a cop out ending and we still would have felt insulted by it if it had been there.
he only called you a MGS2 fan because of the
>written for 15 year old fans of My Chemical Romance.
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surprise surprise, mgs3 is your favorite mgs isn’t it, that’s typical, the simplistic game for the simplistic male brain. males just can’t understand the deep and nuanced intricacies of mgs2, it’s too much for them, of course you’d like the game with the boobies and eating wild animals (lol men have fucking STUPID interests i dont even get it) and snake not wearing skin tight pants???? i bet you dont even know what homoeroticism is, heterodrone, i bet you skip the cutscenes. why dont you go back to your dumb man games for men like call of duty an d madden sports games instead of tryingh to pretend that you know ANYTHJING about REAL GAMES FOR GIRLS like metal gear solid and coming into our cool girl space with yuour dirty penis and youre beard?
>because he's defending MGS2
>not defending MGS2
turbo pleb tier.
killing yourself at this point is not even an option.
you must be sacrificed in a cleansing fire to rid the world of your dense plebness.
This
>a passive-aggressive shitfest like MGS4 that spat in its fanbases face in an attack on the people who wanted another Solid Snake game.
Okay first of all, I'd like a source stating that he made him old only to shit on Solid Snake fans that shat their pants because of Raiden and you aren't just being an obtuse fuck for the sake of it.
>But the fact remains the game fucking sucks because of it.
Yeah, no
>Moved on to what?
Moved on from MGSV.
Again, you haven't moved on from being critical of him solely because of MGSV. The scorn oozes off your text. Your disdain for Old Snake being the sole decider for how much you dislike his work on MGS4 only adds to how much of a hung up turbo retard you are.
See, no one is denying that MGSV was ass-cakes, but you're deluded as shit if you think this means he has lost all credibility as a developer, and it's not just you being a pedantic fuccboi.
As a stealthfag i disagree.
My fuck you point was when they dumbed down the AI because... Hee was too sumartu, so wee needeedu tou meikreit more eeesy.
>there is no euro extreme difficulty and this AI set could be use for it
Who is to blame here? Its not just the "open world" view into everything.
It did havw those connections but it didnt fit with venoms main narrative. Shining lights and truth finish his story.
>With VR, Dead or Alive goes from creepy, to harassment
>Konami are to blame for all the repeated missions and bullshit
I don't know why people think this. The shit you see and do in the missions is the exact same shit various game demos suggested prior to the game's release. I'm sure there are things Kojima wanted to put in that they didn't have the time for--that happens with all kinds of creative projects--but I think it's relatively apparent the missions are the way they are because KojiPro felt that the game's variety in approaches were enough to carry it.
The only one who really knows how satisfied Kojima is with the game is Kojima himself, but people are pulling this Konami scapegoat out of their ass way too often.
What's so shit about Raiden, though? I understand disliking him, but nothing about him is particularly egregious.
The ending isn't the problem.
The whole game is garbage.
The ending also wasn't the problem Mass Effect 3, the problem was that the game is terrible.
I liked MGS V as it is. Could be better, could be worse. I think gameplay is best in series and i like idea of open word, and yes it suck that you have little to do in it.
No shit, the ending isn't missing. Did you retards seriously require confirmation for this?
Only faggots fell for the Chapter 3 meme
It's true. We were only ever going to get one more mission which I assume was going to be longer paced out based on the description of the planned jungle layout and battle plan.
If we were gonna get more or would have been shown with the rest of the footage. The one thing that posses me off about chapter 3 dags is that unlike the rest of the game nothing on this supposed level exists in a real form so why bring it up as a reason it's shit?
That's not really the same though. It's apparent that the people that think it is don't understand narrative structure. I don't give a shit about Mission 51, but it's not the same as MGS2 at all.
3 > 1 > V > 2 > PW > Getting shot in the nuts > 4