Remember when fighting games took skill, when they rewarded intelligence and mind games instead of arbitrarily long muscle memory combos and spamming fireballs like a pussy?
Remember when any character could win, and everyone didn't just pick the boring SF2 characters and cheese people with Ryu, Ken and Chun Li?
Remember when people didn't need to look up guides or get autistic about frame data, they just played the game?
Remember when Street Fighter was about honor and fun instead of e-sports and Youtube celebs playing tournaments?
Lots of this stuff you are saying is bullshit. Fighting games still take skill, in 3rd strike there was still shoto everything especially chun, what the fuck is this honor bullshit most tourneys were chun vs chun, etc. delete
Jonathan Sullivan
I swear, companies like Nintendo and Capcom are only still around because of the Yakuza funneling these corps.
How am I able to shit out a pie and have people enjoy it and they come back for the same pie but it's cheaper ingredients and smaller but costs more and have people still buy it? Oh, right, brand recognition and braindead consumers.
Aiden Thomas
bait
the only thing you said that's remotely true is fireballs weren't that great in 3rd strike because of parrying
Benjamin Foster
>video games >honor Are you below 18? Or are you mentally below 18? You can't have fun and honor at the same time too.
That being said, Third Strike is awesome and fuck you, Ken is bestest.
Dominic Hall
False. Third Strike came out back in the twilight of arcades, when the people playing were people who actually cared about Street Fighter. The characters, the designs, the lore, not just bandwagon faggots trying to make a quick buck out of tournaments and e-sports. All of these people bailed when they got rid of the SF2 characters like Guile and Sagat so they couldn't do cheap shit anymore. Unfortunately Ono ruined the legacy this game built with SF4.
Unfortunately the SF brand name draws people, even if it's only SF in name only. Third Strike was the last Capcom game with heart and soul, nowadays they just make games to appeal to the MOBA and tourneyfag audience and pander to nostalgia fags by making shotos OP.
Hunter Powell
no
i remember losing ten straight to fly/unfly
Ryan Wood
For the record, 3S is my favorite SF but if you're going to dickride it at least try to do your homework.
3S had massive combos. Have you ever seen Urien or Oro?
Ken and Chun Li were top tier. Damn near everyone picked them or 4-5 other high tier characters.
Frame data and advanced tech were frankly more important in 3S than they were in 4 and 5. Try playing an effective Urien or Remy without charge partitioning.
Honor was never a thing. You play to win in fighting games. Always have, always will.
Grayson Thomas
>3S had massive combos. Have you ever seen Urien or Oro?
Those were glitches. Nobody used them in real play, just tryhards who had to exploit the game to win.
>Ken and Chun Li were top tier. Damn near everyone picked them or 4-5 other high tier characters.
False. Everyone who picked these characters got their ass kicked. Most people played Alex, Hugo, Dudley, Q, Urien and Makoto.
>Frame data and advanced tech were frankly more important in 3S than they were in 4 and 5. Try playing an effective Urien or Remy without charge partitioning.
Also false. Back then nobody knew what frame data was or what a kara link fadc ultra autismo cancel meant. Your underage is showing.
>Honor was never a thing. You play to win in fighting games. Always have, always will.
Speak for yourself. Arcades were symbolic as a grounds of honor and camaraderie. Their closure is symbolic of its erasure and the faggification of the fighting genre.
Leo Ward
>video games >honor
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Jose Miller
Dudley, Urien, and Makoto were barely a rung below top tier. I know it's bait but I felt like mentioning it anyway.
Chase Torres
We didn't think about "tiers" back then, we picked the characters that were cool. Stop talking about shit you weren't even alive for. Fucking millenial faggots kill yourselves.
Adrian Bell
Up my nose, like everything else I ever owned or loved.
Brayden Morales
Doesn't that apply to pretty much every game nowadays if it's multiplayer? People just look up guides from internet and go with that. No imagination.
Jordan Moore
>spamming fireballs like a pussy Someone is forgetting that Ryu Vs. Ryu MS Paint comic! >get autistic about frame data You mean parrying? Which basically killed Street Fighter for all but the most hardcore?
Aiden Clark
Top players create tech. Intermediate players copy tech. Shit players bitch about tech.
Isaac Carter
Are you serious? Parrying is what made Third Strike great and KEPT OUT those "hardcore" faggots. Because they can't spam fireballs from full screen anymore and they have to actually work to get their wins, this made all the shoto tards playing Ryu, Ken and Akuma fuck off.
Jack King
To kind of expand on this, I know a lot of people didn't like SF3 back in the day because of so many veteran characters being replaced by new faces, but I think the state of arcades and the late console releases also hurt its popularity. The SF3 series started to release as arcades were declining. Console ports of the SF3 games came out within 1-2 years of the arcade versions, but those were only on Dreamcast (not knocking the system, but it just didn't have the following the PS2 did). 3S didn't come out on PS2 until 2004, about 5 years after the initial arcade release (And this was during the arguable dark ages of fighters, when the most we got from Capcom was Capcom Fighting Jam). It wasn't until a long time passed when people started regularly denouncing the game for things like balance and parry OS.
Joseph Diaz
>Turd Strike >balance Chun Li was easy mode.
Juan Allen
>Shit Strike >regarding intelligence >not regarding autistic button combination and unblockable set ups >being possible to win with anything below Urien >"just played the game" when this was the most elitist game in the history of fighting games >a game with broken parries was "about honor" Wew, lad, you really ARE cancer.
Dylan Martin
You have a really warped perception of what Third Strike is all about. Third Strike was the sequel we all wanted, it represents SF moving on and leaving the past behind it. Tourney autists didn't like this because it meant all their cheap crutch characters like Sagat were gone. SF4 was a regression.
Austin Ramirez
Remember when only 3 characters were viable?
Brandon Bailey
Just because you were 8 years old when third strike came out, doesn't mean everyone else was. Tournament scenes have existed since even before street fighter 2.
Fucking kill yourself you shitposting faggot.
David Mitchell
>Tournament scenes have existed since even before street fighter 2.
False. The tournament boom didn't start until SF4. There were "tournaments" before but they were a very very vocal minority that the SF fandom at large ignored. Now we have no choice since Capcom's Pro Tournament is the entire driving force behind the flop that is SF5.
Jonathan Murphy
>Tourney autists didn't like this because it meant all their cheap crutch characters like Sagat were gone No, people didn't like it because it was trash and only absolute tier whores and retards liked it. >SF4 was a regression Definitely, but that's because SF has been going backwards ever since SFII.
Liam Collins
And that's just so boring.
Matthew Hill
The tournament scene was actually fairly large in the late 90s/early 2000s. Even the mid/early 90s. After like 2002/2003, there was a real stale period in fighting games and that's when shit declined.
Parker Flores
>ken stop embarrassing yourself
Eli Hill
I honewtly don't have areaction pic that can summarize just how retarded you are OP. Because EVERYTHING you talked about was happening back in the earliest days of Street Fighter II.
Michael Brown
non-sequitir incoming!
Zachary King
The answer to all those questions is sadly no because it was never like that. Fighting games have always had long combos and spam. Tourneys always had top tier characters left and right. People would share shit via word of mouth and eventually print things out. Lastly, there has always been an attentionwhoring aspect. "e-sports" and "celeb tournaments" aren't even a new thing. Any talk about how Street Fighter was a niche game with a tiny fanbase or how none of that was prevalent during shit like fucking SF2 is a load of bullshit and you're being a massive nostalgiafag. >posting fucking 3rd Strike
Easton Butler
Again, nobody cared about "tiers" back then. Nobody believed they even existed. This whole mess about tiers and balance didn't happen until the SF4 generation.
Just stop. You weren't even alive at the time. Why do millenials make shit up?
Nathan Reed
>Third Strike was the sequel we all wanted, it represents SF moving on and leaving the past behind it. Tourney autists didn't like this because it meant all their cheap crutch characters like Sagat were gone But I thought spamming fireballs like a pussy and tiers didn't exist back then? Make up your pathetically revisionist mind, OP.
Luis Wilson
in a few years there will be people praising usf4 just you watch
Eli Perry
>Remember when any character could win, and everyone didn't just pick the boring SF2 characters and cheese people with Ryu, Ken and Chun Li? >Remember when Street Fighter was about honor and fun >All of these people bailed when they got rid of the SF2 characters like Guile and Sagat so they couldn't do cheap shit anymore >Everyone who picked these characters got their ass kicked. Most people played Alex, Hugo, Dudley, Q, Urien and Makoto. >nobody cared about "tiers" back then. Nobody believed they even existed. This whole mess about tiers and balance didn't happen until the SF4 generation. >Tourney autists didn't like this because it meant all their cheap crutch characters like Sagat were gone. so which was it?
Ayden Phillips
In Third Strike they didn't. SF2 was a good game at the time but Capcom learned from the mistakes that were Guile and Sagat and built a better game. SF2 was the game of choice for autistic tryhards and SF3 was the remedy.
Luke James
So what you're saying is that you shitposted yourself into a contradictory hole and the entire thread is just salty nostalgic bias.
William Cruz
Parry removed footsies from the equation moreso than focus ever did. You couldn't jump risk free in usf4 like you could in 3s since you could parry in the air.
90% of this board praising 3s didn't even play the game in its prime or attend tourneys. Shut the fuck up, you have no place discussing street fighter.
Eli Nguyen
>Remember when people didn't need to look up guides or get autistic about frame data, they just played the game? maybe if you were a shitty gaijin player
Connor Powell
>if it takes effort, its autistic so sf3 is casual? good to know
Kevin Sanders
>Remember when fighting games took skill, when they rewarded intelligence and mind games >The remedy was dumbing down the gameplay Remind me why you're complaining about IV, you hypocrite.
Eli Carter
>making a bait thread about a game you know nothing about
it never fails
Kevin Torres
>SF2 was the game of choice for autistic tryhards That's called "skill" It's mentioned it in the first sentence of your thread
SF4 brought back the SF2 characters and took the story back in time before 3 because autists couldn't handle an SF game that didn't pander to their sensibilities. Basically, SF4 was the SF for the entitled millenial generation.
>Exploiting the game is skill
Cooper Smith
>All of these people bailed when they got rid of the SF2 characters like Guile and Sagat so they couldn't do cheap shit anymore. No, people left and arcades died because the FGC and arcade communities were hostile to newcomers who didn't spend all day and all night at the arcade.
Joseph Wright
OHHHH I get it This thread is about the time BEFORE SF3 Very misleading
Gabriel Robinson
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Joshua Evans
>Again, nobody cared about "tiers" back then. Nobody believed they even existed. This whole mess about tiers and balance didn't happen until the SF4 generation. Oh, right, those Chun vs Chun, Chu vs Ken, Chun vs Chun, Chun vs Ken, Ken vs Ken, Chun vs Ken, Chun vs Chun in every Finals of every torunament were TOTALLY not based on the fucked up tier in SFIII. You are delusional.
Julian Parker
>because autists couldn't handle an SF game that didn't pander to their sensibilities You realize you just called yourself an autist. I mean, you're the one that has issues with 2 and made a thread about 3rd Strike.
Christopher Jones
This literally never happened..
No, I'm talking about autists who couldn't move on from SF2. Like how Meleefags can't move on.
Kevin Sanchez
>I'm talking about autists who couldn't move on from SF2 Who are no different from ones that couldn't move on from 3rd Strike.
Nicholas Harris
>game where people can parry your anti airs instant trash
Brandon Hernandez
>This literally never happened.. Oh, ok, bait thread it is.
Elijah Murphy
>I'm talking about autists who couldn't move on isn't that the topic of this thread?
Joseph Gonzalez
If people don't like how the SF series is going, why not just switch to a different game?
Jeremiah Collins
That requires effort instead of complaining
Robert Price
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William Fisher
If you wanted to talk about SF3, you could have just said so. All I see now is a guy attempting to shitpost being fucked against a wall.
Joseph Davis
>Remember when any character could win, and everyone didn't just pick the boring SF2 characters and cheese people with Ryu, Ken and Chun Li? >3S >Not a Ken Chun Ryu fest with some yang thrown in there
Alexander Morgan
Yeah I remember before fighting games existed.
Ryder Russell
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Charles Parker
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Zachary Long
bullshit
utter BS
it also depended if your arcade HAD 3S too, which none of mine did. first 3S i seen was in an NJ arcade 3 years ago and i was an arcade kid from 88-00, when they were in decline in my area and it was all DDR machines and SC2 (which was the machine everyone played)
Jackson Allen
>Vega above Zangief explain your reasoning please
Nathan Cook
*below fuck my face
Caleb Green
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Connor Perez
>above im not sure you quoted the right guy
Ryan Fisher
reminde Sup Forums is mostly 16 year olds white boy PC gamers who don't know a fucking thing about fighting games at all
Nathan Ramirez
Can someone explain to a scrun why Karin is always considered high-top tier other than Mago and Jwong I don't really see much from her
Charles Phillips
I doubt OP is even white.
Easton Hill
I just want to know why anyone in their right mind would rank Gief above Vega
Blake Rogers
gief has a consistent anti air vega does not
its not that hard to see why vega is awful user
Eli Martin
Because she has solid tools for virtually everything, and goes even with most of the cast. She has an amazing neutral since her buttons are relatively safe and have extremely long range, especially her MK.
Adrian Hill
>everyone didn't just pick the boring SF2 characters and cheese people with Ryu, Ken and Chun Li But ken and chun were main picks aside from the twin menace.
