Even normies know how shit fallout 4

>even normies know how shit fallout 4
>toddfags will defend this

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>they 'casualized' Skyrim and normies loved it
>they 'casualized' Fallout 4 and normies hated it

Why the fuck do these companies think the lightning can strike the same spot twice? Just look at how Nintendo is pathetic nowadays.

fo4 is a thousand times better than fo3 though

That's not what the mass is saying

No it isn't.

fo3 is a shit rpg and a shit shooter

fo4 is a shit rpg and a good shooter

checkmate atheists

>fo4 is a shit rpg and a meh shooter

Fixed

one thousand times zero is still zero user

>Recent: Mixed
What happened recently?

>Good shooter
>Protagonist can't reload weapons properly
>Eject visibly full magazine, insert it back
>Pipeguns
>Right-handed protagonist while all weapons are for lefties
>Hitscan weapons
>Gunshots sound like absolute trash

shitty DLCs

...

I was never tricked into buying a Toddgame.

Feels good.

Why a lot of the characters in this game resemble these two in one way or the other?

49.99 for a fucking season pass for 3 actual DLCs and 3 cash-grabbing shit dlc

>bethesda """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""writing"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

>fallout 4 is a good shooter

Love this meme. It's a mediocre shooter. The shooting mechanics are run-off-the-mill for 10 years now. Doesn't make it great just because it shines compared to the rest of the train wreck.

>Just look at how Nintendo is pathetic nowadays.

A perfect example of a company who used to sell lightning in a bottle, and now sell bottles full of farts and pretend it's lightning.

Because it's all about nuance. And even Fallout 3 was fighting with "they turned it into Oblivion with guns" opinions because Bethesda is totally unsuited to make Fallout games.

That's odd, because Nuka World wasn't half bad.

>steel be with you

what did she mean by this?

That's not an example of poor writing. That's not bad at all.

Yes it is. The upper pic is fine but the lower picture is just cringy as fuck.

Fallout's fucking description.
>Bethesda made it, buy it!

It's just..fucking raider goon talk, man. The scripting in FO4 is fine...just the overall writing and plot that sucks balls.

I don't know, to me it sounds like Bethesda is trying to be pg-13 in the dialogue even though it's an R-rated game.

Raider goons aren't exactly going to come up with top tier banter, user.

The hype fucking finally wore off.

it had close to mixed reviews ever since launch though

Suure... that's totally intentional.

You know that in New Vegas even the raiders weren't written this stupidly right?

> not playing TES6: Enderal

Seriously, it feels like TES:6

these are default

No, it feels like a big German mod.

don't besmirch the sureAI name with this elder scrolls garbage, they are their own games.

I got a big German mod for you

Fallout 4 is not a shit RPG because it is not a RPG

Correct.
It is THE RPG.
Good call user.

>sold millions and still one of the most played games on steam

No one have to defend shit. Everyone knows bestheda open world games are shit. As long as the sales is good it is a victory for bestheda and a fail for you

I am playing it right now though. Level 42 in powder desert.

Fallout 4 was decent
Compared to Witcher 3 though....
I bought both, if I had to choose I would buy witcher due to the fact it has so many more hours of gameplay, for me.
Still, I realy enjoyed the fallout.
I didn't buy dlc pass, maybe that's why I don't feel cheated

thanks for blogging normie

WHY IS BOSTON FULL OF ORCS

Fallout 4 is a good game.

People will still be playing Fallout 4 years from now while TW3 will drop to less players than Battleborn

>normie
using it as an insult
>inb4
>reeeee.jpg
>FUCKING NORMIES REEEEEEEEEE

can I install this over all my other mods and it'll work?

fallout.gamepedia.com/Generic_Fiend_dialogue

What in here is so much more refined than the dialogue they gave whoever that is? If you thought that pic was cringy, this should be a fucking field day for you.

So, it won't be as cringy if they throw in more cuss words?

It's amazing, but it needs more content.

Once they patch in the Golden Sickle and Rhalata questlines (and maybe even the quest you find the ship's captain from the beginning of the game), and fix the stability issues, it'll be a solid 10/10.

>It's amazing

Personally I think it was your character having a voice and that God awful dialog wheel that did it.

Never knowing what your gonna be saying is jarring for an rpg.

It's nice to see that the hate for FO4 is finally beginning to die down. It's a mediocre game in many respects, but the bandwagon is so full at this point that the wheels aren't even moving.

Mostly from New Vegas fags, which is pretty humorous considering how much we shit on that game here when it came out and turned out to be a buggy, unfinished, turd with unworkable factions.

Mods saved it, and mods will save FO4

It is though.

It has a better levelling system and more interesting main quest than vanilla Skyrim, plus the general level of quality is pretty impressive.

Between the two fo3 was a way better RPG though. Also FO4 butchered the lore way more than FO3 ever could (also while FO3 messed with the lore made by another company, FO4 fucked over parts of their own lore) in case anybody here even cares about that

It is amazing when you realize it's a mod developed for free by people who are not professional game designers.

Mods and the fact, that you create your own character are a big factor in that

that's because obsidian made new vegas within 18 months.

fallout 4 started development "just after fallout 3"

"normies" still love FO4, just go to any normalfag social media she like FB or Instagram. It's redditfags that celebrate CDPR. I personally refuse to touch either

I'm sure if it looked good like witcher 3 can look good, it would be different.

People cry about rpg elements but they also care about graphics, and fo4 looks mediocre even on high settings and runs like garbage, no wonder all the plebs with a gtx 960M are complaining.

I'm lookinkforward to Vault 1080, a mod made by nvidia.

Implying fallout wasn't already casualized with 3

>giving a game a pass because they didn't manage their time properly.

Excuses and Apologia do not a better game make.

>"interesting main quest"
dude are you blind that fucking storyline was literally just finding your son

and a game that was in development for over 8 years is worse than a game made in less than 2 years.

i never said fallout new vegas was an amazing game, i just said it was better than fallout 4 which had way more time in development.

New Vegas is literally just controlling the Dam. Mask of the Betrayer is literally just getting your soul from a wall. Metro 2033 is literally just nuking mutants. Freedom Fighters is literally just Red Dawn. Dishonored is literally just killing people.

You're thinking of Fallout 4, user.

Enderal's main quest is literally the plot to Mass Effect

Did you ever consider that it was made in two years because it was just a new game slapped on the FO3 engine?

It's literally an expansion pack, m8. With some ludicrously unworkable 'references' thrown in to satisfy the autists at NMA.

The difference is that those games have depth and varying paths toward an end goal.

Fallout 4 is literally "do you want to follow the quest marker now, or grind exp/materials on side-quests and follow the quest markers later?"

What ludicrously unworkable references? What does that term "unworkable" mean?

Why is he so perfect?

Not that guy but the voice acting alone makes fo4 worse then nv.

2033, Freedom Fighters and Dishonored are more linear than 4, but I guess I'm defending the wrong thing. I thought you were talking about Enderal, which I haven't played yet and was very curious about.

You realize that everybody you replied to was talking about a completely different game, right?

>Steam
>normies

All the normies are on consoles OP.

Yo, you're talking about Fallout 4 and we're all talking about a Skyrim mod.

Kinda makes ya wish for a nuclear winter.

>What ludicrously unworkable references?

The same gangs existing in both fallout 1 and NV, despite them being 120 something years apart is pretty fucking unworkable. Everything even remotely light-hearted partitioned off into "weird wasteland" to satisfy an aspie fansite is pretty unworkable. Desperately trying to level in tribals and failing is pretty unworkable.

Take off the fanfaggot goggles and New Vegas is not a great game without mods.

>Nuka World wasn't half bad

That's a lie though, Nuka World was exactly half bad, a meh, in simple terms.

I think it's kinda funny, honestly. Dude comes into a thread, doesn't read any of the posts, sees a post like that and automatically assumes he's defending Fallout 4's catastrophe of a plot.
I personally wasn't too impressed by Enderal's story, but as another user mentioned, there's still more content coming out. I'm willing to cut the non-professional developers of a free mod some slack, especially when they're still adding content.

blah blah blah I thought there'd be more gambling

>good shooter

Guns have no feel or impact
Movement is clunky
Bullet sponge enemies

How about no.

I liked the pre-war horrible shit in it. It's nice to be reminded that America before the war wasn't 50's paradise, but a fucked up, amoral superstate which was falling apart.

Why can't the same gangs exist in both games? Weird Wasteland doesn't contain all light-hearted aspects of the game. I don't even know what you're saying with that last sentence.

I like NV, but I also like 4, 3, Tactics, 2 and 1. I like most things.

Almost everything you said was so subjective as to mean nothing. Here.

"Yeah, no. Deus Ex was kinda shitty. There was no feel or impact to it, and the moment-to-movement gameplay wasn't fun enough."

>play F4
>runs like shit
>get better parts
>still runs like shit and looks like shit while other games run great on Ultra
>introduction part is kinda weird but okay
>finally get out of the scripted bullshit that is the intro and enter the world
>get to the first town
>people give me a powerarmor and a minigun and let me fight a Deathclaw
>its boring as shit

HOW do you make something like this so fucking boring?
How do Bethesda do it?
The script is shit - The animations are shit - The roleplaying is non-existent.
For all the shit F3 gets - Atleast it still had RPG elements.

Fallout 4 is by far the world Bethesda game i have ever played.

>Why can't the same gangs exist in both games?

Because 120 years is a long fucking time for a gang to exist, especially in a constant post-apocalyptic warzone. A VERY long time. Empires don't last that long.

I don't hate NV with mods. I love it with mods, it's one of my all-time favourites. But the vanilla game was a joke.

I've heard a lot of talk about tactics. Should I bother?

>Empires don't last that long

... Yes, they do. And the vanilla game was fine.

>The same gangs existing in both fallout 1 and NV, despite them being 120 something years apart is pretty fucking unworkable
The Apache tribe of native americans was confirmed to be around for about 200 years, potentially longer since they're only documented after their discovery by the europeans. The Navajo were around in the 1300s and there are still remnants of the tribe today.

The Great Khans surviving for 120 years is perfectly feasible. The Crimson Caravan and Gun Runners, two premier trading companies, being around for 120 years with little chance for competition to crop up makes perfect sense. You're utterly full of shit, there are plenty of things to criticize about New Vegas, both minor and heinous. Go actually play the game and find out what they are.

Don't firget the cigarette dialogue:
>who left those here?

MC is a cuck and so is anyone who bought this game full price with the season pass day one; the hell was I thinking?!

No.

Fallout 3 is a decent RPG and a shit shooter.
Fallout 4 is a shit RPG and a decent shooter.
Considering this is an RPG-first series, 3 > 4.

>decent
Its very weak compared to actual shooters like Wolfenstein or the yearly CoD and BF rehash

If i want to play a shooter i just play an actual shooter.

Haven't played 4 yet, but couldn't the cigarettes have been Nora's? Some spouses like to hide that kind of thing.

>Empires don't last that long.
I thought you were just shitposting, but now I'm genuinely wondering if you're actually retarded.

I think even todd knows how much of a fuck up this was. It totally killed the game for me, I know you can turn it off and shit like that but still. Pathetic.

FO4 is pretty much Project Nevada except it doesn't play as well.

Not that user. The only problem I had with NV was the fact that there are still super mutants crying about the Master, a guy who would've died over a hundred years prior to the game's events.

A hundred years is a pretty fucking long time to get over something, especially when Fallout 2 explicitly talks about how the first-generation mutants are going senile thanks to the fucked up mutations.

>The Great Khans surviving for 120 years is perfectly feasible.

The Khans base had about 12 people in it. The were only in the game to satisfy autists and draw in the nostalgiafag crowd.

And it worked. They waved off the huge problems with the game because it satisfied their retrorections.

Most of the criticisms you can level at FO3 are still perfectly valid for FONV.

>Empires don't last 120 years
are you okay, user

did active grade bombing from disgruntled fans and tag along memesters start with this generation?

a pretty fucking decent proportion of them don't.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_empires

so why should a gang of 12 or so tribals in the middle of a death-desert warzone manage it?