how do i get my friend to stop doing this autistic shit? We play 2v2 against moderate AIs and he gets absolutely rekt in early castle age nearly every time, then if he's lucky he spams halberdiers and skirmishers and a-moves to win I even tell him what to do and he says he does it, but then I look at his base and see this sort of shit "because it's pretty" then there's also buying EVERY upgrade possible and complaining about gold or he's rushing trade carts and gets rekt with 3 villagers on the gold mine in his base >i'm better at starcraft there's only 2 resources but then he doesn't play brood war, only starcraft 2. I want him to get better but I don't even know what he's doing most of the time (I'm preoccupied with doing my own shit), I just hear "help" and I see 4 battering rams destroying his TC
pic related he ran to my base after getting rekt and rebuilt for like 40 minutes, then built a huge army of teutonic knights and didn't help me because "he wanted more of them before attacking" nigga 60 teutonic knights is a force that will tear open and rip apart her majesty the queen's anus then proceed to shit all over buckingham palace
Isaiah Campbell
You're playing agianst AI, just let him have his fun.
Christian Powell
We're playing against AI but IN PREPARATION for actual multi and this is atrocious
Isaiah Perez
>STOP HAVING FUN >STOP IT WAAAAH MA ESPORT MINMAX BUILD ORDER YOU SO BAD Fuck off, you already killed RTS
Sebastian Edwards
Hey, that's a pretty farm!
Benjamin Garcia
imo age of empires is for slow playing, I really like RTS but I usually wanna be comfy and not die from anxiety attack like in SC matches or more like I can do that too but only for an hour
Nolan Long
You're the reason RTS is dead. I would play with your friend any time.
You can go fuck off.
Jayden Harris
>haha winning doesnt matter in a game where there are winners and losers what matters is to have fun ;^) im also fully submissive gay bottom
Oliver Cruz
He's just a casual who doesn't understand how to play competitively.
Which is fine because that's fucking AOE2, an absolutely AWFUL game to play competitively. Why the duck don't you play Starcraft with him instead if you want to just be hardcore and not care about stuff like aesthetics or making an epic world destroying army before attacking?
99% of people who play AOE2 play it exactly the way he does, like an empire sim and not an esport. I don't know why you don't understand that. You sound like you hate fun.
Cameron Wright
isnt the point of rts is building pretty bases?
Asher Scott
IIRC you can neatly wrap farms around your TC if you place on directly below it.
Connor Sanchez
I honestly pity you, unable to actually enjoy video games. Thats really just sad.
Adrian Moore
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I only play Age of Empires map builder, because it doesn't limit you with that resource bullshit. I don't have time to farm them to build my base, a simple game against easy AI is above 4 hours, that's ridiculous.
Tyler Martin
>he just wants to have fun xD Why is Sup Forums so casual? They are clearly training to play some multiplayer. Don't defend some casuals stupidity.
Kevin Fisher
>that gay projection So you're just sexually repressed, I bet your friend gets laid more than you which is why you're mad at him.
Liam Gomez
>He can't win while also making his base beautiful What's the point of victory if you have nothing but shit to look back on.
Cooper Lewis
intricate base building is half the fun my dude
Leo Ross
in all seriousness have they fixed shit like tower rushing?
Parker Watson
>They are No, one autistic faggot with no friends is trying to rope in someone who just wants to have fun.
Playing a game how you want is not casual, its when casuals want a game changed to be more casual that casuals are bad. Not that you would fucking know you underage newfag cunt. Now fuck off.
Sebastian Wilson
>i-im OP and i agree with this message! Jesus dude thats even fucking sadder than bitching people are having fun.
Nathan Green
>Which is fine because that's fucking AOE2, an absolutely AWFUL game to play competitively.
I bet you cant even elaborate why its bad to play it competitively. Because competitive Aoe2 is perfectly fine.
Juan Anderson
not him but some people understandably find fun in winning or even just playing competitively
you'd understand if you were good at games or play an irl sport, faggot
Bentley Garcia
>hardcore do you realize that beating moderate AI in this game is no easy task and requires actual strategy? I'm not forcing my friend to play, he wants to but cries every time he loses while refusing to accept my advice, get better and win
nt we're both basement dwellers
this isn't beautiful, this is just autistic.
there are other games/map builder for that
Joshua Adams
Just let him enjoy the game the way he wants and get another person to play your competitive stuff
Bentley Nguyen
>not him but some people understandably find fun in winning or even just playing competitively And others find fun in doing whatever the fuck they want
Stop pretending your fun = the only fun moron
Justin Evans
how can you "fix" tower rushing? It's a strategy like all others. They did fix Teuton TC dick-ass cheese tho
Hudson Parker
>STOP HAVING FUN YOUR WAY MY WAY IS BETTER Kill yourself
Blake Howard
WE WUZ FARM ARRANGEMENTS N SHEIT
Cooper Young
Dude just use the mills.
Or make fuck off huge farms.
Luke Rivera
>Just let him enjoy the game the way he wants he wants to win and complains when he gets rekt. It's either doing autistic things or winning. In-between is something that he's far away from achieving, at least as of yet
Jace Davis
sorry op, i aim to win the fashion competition, not the low brow neanderthal violence category.
want to make a pretty kingdom and then maybe later have a fabulous army.
Adam Torres
Last time I played it, my patrols were just prancing around the invading enemy. Was that an AoE2 HD thing? I heard they fucked some things up with the HD edition.
Daniel Bailey
But you are doing the same.
Blake Harris
a-move is inconsistent, sometimes your units will just go to that point while stuttering and don't attack at all generally if there's a lot of units on the map at once the game tends to have massive input lag and the units stutter instead of moving or attacking
Jeremiah Smith
lmao did you even read the post i was replying to
the retard user was saying how he pities op because he plays to win
stop pretending OPs fun isnt valid fun you fucking casual baddies
Bentley Hernandez
Simple, AOE2 is far too slow to be a good competitive game and also has a big lack of strategic variety.
8 minutes into a game of Starcraft you can possibly have every unit in the game available, and all of them are wildly different in abilities.
8 minutes into a game of AOE2 you can build all of one military unit unless you're very experienced, in which case you can build a small handful of them, none of which have any special abilities or properties other than "hit enemy with some variety of stick".
Oliver Hall
Yeah, that's pretty much what I experienced. Bummer, so games against multiple enemies or playing on a big map with big troups are going to be shit.
Is that only in the HD edition or the old one as well?
Owen Gutierrez
Play Supreme Commander instead.
Elijah Bell
When do you think OP will figure out that his friend is much better at video games than he is and is deliberately going full A E S T H E T I C and mismanges shit just because he enjoys laughing at the autistic tantrums this retard throws every time.
Thomas Peterson
Well, he should at least be able to defend his castle. I wouldn't have fun getting my shit destroyed and having to mooch stuff off my buddy. And it's way cooler to have some troops walking around the town to protect shit anyway. Villagers gotta feel safe.
Camden Allen
>playing competitive AoE2 Delete your game.
Also I do something similar to your friend with the farms and always destroy the AI.
But I a friend who >I'm doing pretty well >he's doing ok >gets swarmed by enemy AI, no big deal >begin to send my soldiers to his place >sending a bit of resources I can spare >Player: Friend has resigned
Fuck you, man.
Hudson Price
Perhaps buy him something comfy like Banished where he can just focus on building nice wee clachans
Ayden Moore
I am literally your friend, I do the same shit, never finish a match and always lose but at least I enjoy making my small city.
If anything, retards rushing in RTS games killed the genre because anyone not rushing is called a "scrub, shitter, newbie". Enjoy never getting more RTS games because RTS player are pure cancer alike MOBAfags
Caleb Reed
I cant have an ugly town, sorry
Julian Carter
Not him either, but winning is more fun than losing. I play puzzle games if I want to have fun, not a competitive game. Fun fact: only sore losers say "it's just a game". I have never in my life heard a winner say that. I also never heard it being said in the olympic games, just to prove my point.
Zachary Powell
"More fun" means losing should still be fun. If you don't have any fun because you lost then you have a problem.
Adam Parker
Sounds like my 12year old self playing this game on lan. Cut him some slack. Maybe choose a small map with an easy AI and actively encourage him to learn some tactics from you.
Thomas Taylor
>>playing competitive AoE2 >Delete your game.
spotted the shitter aoe2 against ai gets boring as soon as you get a grip on a solid BO. once you manage to pull of a good flush, fast castle, fast imp and know the basics of booming, the AI becomes a grain of sand trying to kill you from inside your shoe.
aoe2 against other players, especially teamfights, is the most fun you can have with an rts. there are maps for every player, from competitive GA to completely sealed off Michi and a ton of fun maps, one of the most popular ones still being castle blood.
also, a very good map editor. you can even create custom random maps for online play, something that I haven't seen in an rts game so far.
Jaxson Lee
>being competitive in a competitive game is a problem.
Henry Cook
for the 1st time maybe, but if you choose to play like shit just because for the looks of your city, you should probably stop playing aoe and start up anno. seriously.
aoe2 is an extreme macro-management game once you start your first fight, be it feudal age or post imp. once you start to focus on unimportant tasks, important tasks around the map (like microing your military or watching idle vills), you will ultimatively lose the game and get frustrated with it.
while you are busy arranging your farms in a certain order, knights are riding your lumbercamp while your arches fight hillside up against skirmishers. you will be wondering how you lost your army and ultimatively the game. and every time someone tells your "it's because you care about useless shit", your will be hurt, because for some strange reason, building a pretty village is what you want to do, not eliminating the enemy threat.
usually, people who play like this, never become good players. they will become good at finding excuses why they are so shit though.
Asher Parker
I wonder how much fun it is to get beaten down over and over again. Maybe if you're a cuck, who knows.
Josiah Anderson
>spotted the shitter I play AOE for the chill city build aspect. I dont need to play some shitters castle rushing or going all out with 9,000 trebuchets and oniggers.
Competitive AOE2 is fun to watch, but if I want to play against people I'll play one of the custom scenarios or custom maps.
Nathan King
>I dont need to play some shitters castle rushing or going all out with 9,000 trebuchets and oniggers.
can you explain what you mean with "shitters castle rushing" and "going all out with 9000 rebushets"? have you even played aoe2 or did you just watch a trailer? how long have you even been playing aoe2? you still don't know more than city building about this game, which focuses on combat?
Cooper Carter
>>playing competitive AoE2 >Delete your game.
>I play AOE for the chill city build aspect.
YOU play AOE for the chill city build aspect, I play AOE for its competitive RTS value.
>I dont need to play some shitters castle rushing or going all out with 9,000 trebuchets and oniggers. This and the exagerration are probably because you're bad at the game and get your ass handed to you every time you try to play the game the way it was meant to be played. As a competitive RTS where you destroy your opponent.
Asher Lopez
>aoe2 against ai gets boring as soon as you get a grip on a solid BO. once you manage to pull of a good flush, fast castle, fast imp and know the basics of booming, the AI becomes a grain of sand trying to kill you from inside your shoe.
Well yeah you fucking autist, that's precisely why only idiots like you do those things, because it ruins the fun of the game.
Also everything else you mention in your retarded post has been done far, far better in other RTS games and it's obvious as fuck that AOE2 was your first and only RTS.
Joseph Miller
>This and the exagerration are probably because you're bad at the game and get your ass handed to you every time you try to play the game the way it was meant to be played
likely not learning how to play a video game is a level of laziness I don't want to be a part of
Matthew Moore
These posts are so autistic I can smell the neckbeard from here.
Elijah Price
He didn't even do it right. The mill allows for perfectly staggered farms. Why is there a space? Mills look better surrounded by farmland
Isaac Sullivan
>Well yeah you fucking autist, that's precisely why only idiots like you do those things, because it ruins the fun of the game.
no, that's exactly what kept the game alive for so long, not the morons who arrange farms in rectangle shapes.
it ruins the fun for you, because you are a shit player who never tried to improve. when we would play against each other, I would feel great joy because I love this game, while you get frustrated at your own incompetence because you never learned to win.
well, at least you build a pretty city, you funny little girl. superficial and helpless.
Nathan Johnson
No user, you are the autism.
Jacob Reyes
so is there any depth to this game or is it your average run of the mill 1. get cash 2. spam units kinda deal?
David Barnes
But its is pretty.
Matthew Williams
I feel sad for you.
Camden Robinson
Holy shit OP you should check your own autism before you start calling out others.
Your buddy probably is thinking the same thing as to how to stop your autistic shit.
Daniel Robinson
What kind of depth are you looking for in a traditional rts?
Ayden White
Fuck off shitter. I'd destroy you 1 vs 1 with cheats on. Just try me you little shit.
This.
>not eventually just having massive mill farmlands >not building 3 houses for every 1 barrack so your soldiers have homes >not planting mining camps in every deposit available so your mining industry can flourish
Literally if you don't do this just fucking delete AOE2 and go play some boring shit like StarCraft.
Ethan Thompson
>tfw can't beat AI on normal The game is too comfy and relaxing to actually give a fuck about min/max. I've played it since the original release and I still get fucked by normal bots.
Carson Sanders
>competitive AoE II is so fun xD >waah I just wasted 2 seconds >holy shit someone went feudal 8 seconds before I did FUCK >holy shit, I just wasted a bunch of time managing these menus
David Thomas
>tfw memorizing build orders for 200 hours so you can destroy people who dare to "have fun" in age of empires
In that moment, I am euphoric.
Lincoln Phillips
Being a submissive gay bottom is fine. Being a fag like op is not
Joseph Bell
It takes a lot of games to get good. Your friend sucks because you are expecting too much of them. I am plenty autistic with my builds but I beat hard cpus easily. It comes down to experience. Stop being a faggot and just have fun. Your friend is going to suck before he gets good so just be ready for that.
Kayden Richardson
>tfw I play with a friend AoM:Titans vs AI. >we just sit in the same room with laptops vs 10 (Titan) AI. >only can do specific maps where we wall off our bases with Gaia Tree miracle >its basically a 30-60 minute turtle and then a 60 minute map clean up >tfw we both feel dead afterwards >tfw we keep doing it
Bentley Harris
It stacks up, user
Parker Cooper
>not playing medieval Sim City
pleb
Michael Mitchell
idk, something that isn't just spamming units
i really love stronghold crusader but it's not exactly what i expect from any other rts, just saying that I mean that kind of depth instead of just grinding units
Joshua Brooks
That's the only way to play, friend.
I fucking wish AOE2 had more trading units.
Ethan Ward
Comp killed RTS
Noah Watson
Holy fucking shit
Noah Butler
Have you tried Grand Strategy games? Obviously not RTS, but it may be more your cup of tea
Dominic Stewart
>not turning on easy so can build your comfy town without being harassed as much, then smashing steam rolling the enemy when youve finished your cool town its like you hate fun
Connor Morris
I don't see how micro managing seconds is less autistic than pretty farms.
Ian Ross
Gamespeed is not related to competitiveness of a game.
Else chess wouldnt have ever been this big. Your argument is flawed
Its a strategy game, it should be about strategy and not about reflexes like gook click is
Jaxon Gonzalez
>mfw I do this
Jonathan Rogers
You can do treaty in HD with kangs expansion.
Oliver Thomas
>tfw I showed him SupCom >Sorian AI is slightly smarter >I'm quite good at SupCom, so I expand, defend him, get naval so we don't get wrecked by salems, get t3 air quickly >look at my friends base >he just made a huge mass farm >he then proceeds to mop the enemy with 10 SoulRippers >we both feel dead afterwards >tfw we keep doing it
James James
chloe a slut
Aaron Barnes
yeah, they're too complex for my taste though. then again i never took the time to learn them
Bentley Morgan
Stop slutshaming. Sluts are a good thing.
Evan Harris
No they're not.
Ryder Fisher
wew
Andrew Cooper
well it IS pretty...
Justin Cruz
You just sound biased against comp play. Don't get me wrong, I loved to play RTS casually as a kid (especially with shoehorned RPG mechanics like units levelling up and gaining stats), but let's face it—it's not exactly what RTS has been designed for, which is expanding as efficiently as possible to overpower your opponents. You just seem more suited to GSG games and sim because they offer the complexity an adult can sink enough time into to feel the progress going without hitting a dead end during casual play. It's just like playing HoMM3 against a CPU—eventually you realize the AI has been so overpowered it becomes a tedious accumulation of units until a boring steamroll happens. It's not fun over time.
Elijah Rogers
>mfw remembering the IRC group we used to have on Sup Forums for this >4v4s >8-way FFAs >that one guy who would pick Persians only to delete his town center and rebuild it right beside the enemy's to kill everything with their x2 TC HP bonus >that one guy who would pick the shittest player on the other team and rush them with monks >that one guy who would build mangonels in early castle age, send them to an ally's base and target ground over his villagers and now it's all gone...
Jace Russell
Please do not talk about the queen that way.
It's very disrespectful.
Dylan Thompson
I'd just be glad to have a friend who likes to do cute stuff in AoE
Cameron Carter
Whats GSG games?
Matthew Fisher
>the TC isnt centered
Asher Carter
Grand strategy (europa universalis, etc.) or simulators like Cities XL.
Alexander Stewart
>that one guy who you check on 15 minutes into the game and he has 8 villagers
Evan Bailey
Fast-paced RTS in general are cancer. The games always boil down to ridiculously fast micro and extremely high APM, meaning everything from resource management, unit selection, scouting, villager placement, sheep placement, trade routes, to actual fights are all handled in real time at once and few slip-ups are going to cost you the entire game.
It makes the game become less about strategy or outwitting your opponent and more about who has memorized hotkey combinations better, even worse if the units also have usable abilities and the battles themselves are solved in a matter of seconds. Add very limited zoom out and tiny minimap and you can instantly throw the game into the trash bin.
Games like RUSE and Wargame are good because they're more about clever unit positioning and battle group combinations. Resources also play an important part, but it's more about map control and constantly focusing on the actual fighting without delving into knee jerk reaction times that are more befitting of ASSFAGGOTS.