Touhou 15

Why do people pretend that this game wasn't bad?

>Forces its gimmick down your throat way more than UFO

>Has a terrible UI color

>Has a really weak cast that's either forgettable (moonrabbits) or just badly designed (clownpiece, hecatia)

>Has balance problems and gives you way too many resources in legacy mode

>Was literally based around IWBTG

>Was rushed for release

Seriously, this game was a real disappointment for me and really weak compared to DDC.
It was not even okay like TD because it was designed around the gimmick, instead of using it to extend the actual gameplay value.

The cast relies on "wacky" and "jokes" like the american flag or a silly t-shirt instead of actual character design.

The story was nothing noteworthy and the shottypes were very samey.

With all that said, I'm really curious, why do some people like it? Is it just a vocal minority? Are they just interested in the characters because they are colorful a feature those silly "jokes"? Or perhaps they like it because it's the newest game? Do they even like the other games? Doesn't it bother them that it plays almost as if it were a spin-off game?

I feel like people blindly defend ZUN's works way too much and I'd like a real answer.

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We have a new barneyfag and pretty sure that, like him, he is impossible to ban.

It's time to stop.

>If someone gives a serious answer, he will corrupt it into his own opinion
>if someone just shitpost, he will bitch

The only winning move is not to play

Barneyfag doesn't samefag his own threads to kingdom's come to make sure he "wins" the internet argument.

Or just post 2hu girls until the thread gets delete.

>bumping thread
You guys deserve this and Barneyfag.

>dismissing me instead of proving LoLK is a good game
LoLK apologists, everyone.

>Implying i don't enjoy seeing this user being so assblasted
But barneyfag is not amusing like this user, i give you that.
Also, have some music
>youtube.com/watch?v=4Le0qG3pI7o

You already made this thread before and got your answers.

Every game should have Sakuya and Sanae as playable characters.

I know where that Reisen came from
>nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29473218

Which 2hu ass wud u sniff?

Clappy's cute. I hope her being gone brings Hecatia to Gensokyo and possibly eventually leads to us seeing modern (Earth) Hell.

It's probably a circus full of clowns and sad people.

There are still people who like LoLK. I want to hear from them the reason for this.

Is this your defence?

Answer my question dude

Why do LoLK apologists keep changing the subject when asked about the game? Is it because they know they are wrong?

Why is it literally impossible to talk about the gameplay outside of /jp/?

But that's what I'm trying to talk about.

Answer my question dude

Because this is Sup Forums no one plays games here.

I'm not answering your question. Either take this seriously or leave.

Then why do people defend LoLK so much if they haven't played it?

This user hates LoK, why he would want to talk about something it hates? one answer: to bitch about it.

I just want to know why people like it. Is that really so bad? Why am I not allowed to know this?

Because people only care about their waifu trash.

>I'm not answering your question

You all ready posted this thread you negro.

I like it because of the music and characters.

Because whatever honest answer you get, you will use it to attack the user in question.
If someone says "i like it because i like the characters", you will go "the characters are shit!"
If someone says "i like because point-device is interesting", you will go "point-device is shit!"

So the game has no redeeming values at all?

There was someone defending LoLK to the very end. This means my message didn't get through to everyone.

And the game? What about the GAME?

SHUT UP AND POST MORE OF THIS

>Because whatever honest answer you get, you will use it to attack the user in question.
I have never done that. Stop lying. I just want to know why people consider this trash game to be half-decent, let alone "good".

More Mokou? ok

Music and characters are part of the game, are they not? I'll be the first to admit that having the game be centered around PointDevice and have the true end be in Legacy mode (or not dying once in PointDevice) really hurts the game. Having Clownpiece have two timeout spellcards is fucking bullshit too.

The cast design and music are great and the game is well-balanced around dying constantly.

The game is not supposed to be balanced for Legacy mode

Secondaries are here

Kaguya-sama~

>Music and characters are part of the game, are they not?
You know what I'm talking about.
>I'll be the first to admit that having the game be centered around PointDevice and have the true end be in Legacy mode (or not dying once in PointDevice) really hurts the game. Having Clownpiece have two timeout spellcards is fucking bullshit too.
So the game is badly designed, is what you're saying.

>The cast design and music are great
Not part of the game.
>The game is not supposed to be balanced for Legacy mode
The canon mode? The mode that most people who like Touhou are going to play with? The mode that might as well be the main mode? The game is not balanced for it.

Can we talk about UFO?

>So the game has no redeeming values at all?
Its matter of opinion.

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the designs are just as much part of the game as the gameplay.

I haven't had a chance to play 15 yet, what's the gimmick?

How is it a matter of opinion? The game is terribly balanced, well-balanced only for the shitfest mode and it being so rushed left it an irritating bore.

I genuinely think Clownpiece is the nicest character ZUN has drawn so far.

>MFW i love this artist artstyle, but ballbusting freaks me out.

>parts of the game are not parts of the game

Some poor choices were made, but to say it's badly designed in its entirety is excessive.

Shitting on best 2hu

How? A game is nothing but its gameplay. The bosses could all be spaceships and the game would be just as trash.

Savestates, because the games aren't easy enough as it is.

And why is that?

She just looks the best. There's times where his art goes full retard, but Clownpiece is his cleanest drawing and is a good representation of his style at its best.

Even with her ridiculous design, the art style made it work.

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>still no doujinshi of a 4way between Hecatia's three bodies and Clownpiece

Because some people would take unbalanced as a challenge just how life is unbalanced. Likewise people bitch about how unbalanced life is instead of overcoming its challenges.

>A game is nothing but its gameplay
Then why are you complaining about story. characters and ui in the OP?

Hecatia has few doujins scanned, not one has scanned the ones hemo did.

I'm sorry, but it is.

>Even with her ridiculous design, the art style made it work.
m8, just because you've been conditioned to think ZUN's art isn't as bottom of the barrel as you can go, doesn't mean the art and design of the clown aren't terrible.

>Yurishit

>How?
Designs and aesthetics are a part of what the player will experience playing the game.

>between Hecatia's three bodies
What would that even be? Incest, sex with clones, selfcest, triplets sex ...?

i need that fucking shirt

>niggerface
>stupid
japs are based

>Because some people would take unbalanced as a challenge just how life is unbalanced.
This is a videogame, you moron.

I was criticising the game in general there. Right now, I want to know what's so appealing about the actual gameplay. You know, the thing you are defending?

Dunno, but we can be sure each Hecatia will play differently due the canon "different personalities" thing.

Shota CP or loli CP getting raped by three of Hecatia's dicks is fine too. Or CP has the big futa dick and she's fucking three milfy Hecatias, whatever. Something needs to happen and it hasn't happened (or been scanned) yet.

Oh fuck you now I can't unsee

>people are actually defending LoLK
Reminder nobody cares about your kusoge.

Yeah nah you are hypocrite fuck off

>japs don't care about it either
As you shouldn't.

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>ad hominem

Now you are talking

Cute.

>le logical fallacies

Post gaps

That is creepy.

Posting worst gap in best clothing.

It was from tumblr

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Are you going to argue or are you going to do like last thread and attempt to censor me with memes?

I just want to know why people like LoLK so much. Is this some sort of state secret?

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I don't give a shit. It's cute. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

It gave us Junko and that is a gift that keeps on giving.

Go back to shmupg

Sorry I don't argue with hypocrites and I recommend checking definition of censorship in dictionary because you clearly don't know what it means

>it gave me mai waifu
Okay? How does that make the game good?

I don't know what that is.

>Sorry I don't argue
Because you can't?

*Sorry I don't argue with hypocrites. Please don't take my words out of context kudasai.

Oh uhh I probably mixed you up with that other user that keeps shitting on Touhou, please excuse my bad reading comprehension.

>*Sorry I don't argue
*Because you can't?

Thanks for admitting you were wrong. If only the rest of this thread could follow your example.

>it gave me mai waifu
Where did I write that. Are you stupid?

Damn son you would be great politician you only hear what you want to hear.

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I assumed she was, since apparently her presence alone makes the game good. Nevermind all the other shit, the game has Junk!

You're not being very cooperative either. Just tell me why the game is good, why does this have to be a fucking project?

Should I play SoEW?

>Check Sup Forums
>See a repost of my legit thread from last night
>Everyone fell for it
>mfw

People have been giving you reasons for liking the game (like liking the designs, music and such) and also disagreeing with you on the gameplay being unbalanced.
Clearly these are not good enough reasons for you

Reminder that the Lunarians are scumbags who keep their own slave race, plague Earth by creating youkai, and would wipe Gensokyo and its inhabitants out of existence for their own convenience.

Youkai are evil by nature, not by choosing, whilst Lunarians are the source of all rife in the series by their own determination. Lunarians are the most vile entities in Touhou and wiping them out would benefit absolutely everyone.

>there are people that still think Reimu and Marisa aren't best friends, just good acquaintances

>my legit thread
Excuse me?

>(like liking the designs, music and such)
That has nothing to do with the gameplay. Why do you keep bringing this up?
>and also disagreeing with you on the gameplay being unbalanced.
Simply disagreeing with me doesn't mean I'm wrong.