He doesn't main the most powerful character in existence

>he doesn't main the most powerful character in existence

Xenoverse 2.

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What's the point of having Zen-chan in there if he wins by default?

>introduce a character so powerful nobody can possibly trifle with him
>make him an ally of the main character
>give the main character a way to directly contact him

Congratulations Toriyama you've completely destroyed all stakes.

Zen-chan of the future timeline doesn't know Goku though.

Also Goku is retarded, so he probably wouldn't consider using it anyways.

Didn't that already happen with Beerus?

Res of F would have been better if Whis and Beerus were absent, right?

What the hell is there else higher than the fucking King of Everything?

>Who's literally reverses time and gives Goku a do over and they beat Freiza after Freiza wins with a cheap gambit

You tell me

Knowing Goku, he won't use that thing at all. He'd rather see the world explode than have someone else fight his fights for him.

I'm sure that device will be handy for something though.

This shit is so bad. Super is like that cringey pic your kid draws and you know it's shit as shit but you still put it on the fridge.

he exists outside of time, there is only one of him

So there's around 24 hours left on the Fusions banner on Jap Dokkan Battle, right?
I need to know how long I've got left to farm stones to try and get my waifu, Barotto.

>31 years later
>People still don't get Goku

Goku would never use an instant win button in a fight.

>implying

NEW EPISODE ENGLISH SUBS WHEN
I NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON

So he's aware of all 4 other timelines that Trunks created and exists in all of them at the same time?

Well now you've got three options.
>Goku gets wrecked and someone pushes it in his stead
>Goku is put in a position where he needs to use it, yet still refuses, emphasizing his independence and resolve
>it's never brought up again, it's introduction and in fact entire existence stands out as an objective writing flaw

That fight had way more at stake than just Goku's life though, hell that's the sole reason Vegeta even agrees to fuse in the first place. Currently Black is only really threatening the future timeline, which for Goku and Vegeta might as well just be an alternate reality since for them their "real" planet and families are safe and sound and free of danger.

If anything that adds more validity to the argument, because as soon as they separated Goku and Vegeta both agreed they would never do that again because they want to win their own fights.

Wrong on all three accounts

Goku just uses it for stupid reason like calling Zeno to come play one day, and meet his other friends. He uses it for something stupid which causes some humor. However this is how he was meant to use it, since he doesn't abuse Zeno's trust or friendship.

Like Oolong wishing for panties

Z sounds like a bad fan fiction of Dragon Ball if you really want to get down to it.

Except from what we've heard, Zen-chan is quick to anger and mortals pulling time travel shenanigans are against the law, so if he got involved at all there's a good chance he'd be the next big bad rather than an ally.

Someone shop two dicks into his hands.

Z added a completely different dimension to the story.

Super fails on all fronts and is guilty of extremely bad fan pandering service. It has absolutely no unique and distinctive aesthetic identity.

Super is literally bad!Z

His dad.

This. But he'll be retired or some shit so he doesn't care about anything that happens and is pretty much just the Roshi of the gods.

>when you remember than Roshi and Krillin exist
>when you remember Android 18 is way way stronger than Krillin

I feel like Dragon Ball just became increasingly more like bad fanfiction as it went on, and Super takes the cake.

King of Everything? Fucking really?

Just wait until next season when they make another stupid looking god that's even stronger than him. The horror wont end.

This isn't fucking video games, you're trying to cover it all up so you can start talking about the anime again. Quit making these threads already and fuck off back to your gay porno website already.

Toriyama has gone senile, just enjoy the fanfiction and pray that as little of it as possible will get into future DBZ games.

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I want to fuck Frieza, right in the ass.
No Mercy.

Future Trunks put up a better fight than his dad did in ss2. Future Trunks is GOAT you should main him.

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>Evil Goku
>Future Trunks is back
>Mai
Is this new arc worth watching?

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I know that the movies were all non-canon side stories or based around what-if? scenarios, but what was the in-universe explanation for Turles looking like Goku?

Toriyama will just introduce an even more power character in xenoverse 3

I'm enjoying Super for how ridiculous it is, but I would never pay a single cent for it.

I got DB and all the Dragonboxes on DVD, but I would never pay for Super. The animation is shit, the music is shit and the sagas arent that great, but they're just good enough to watch for free once.

>Blue-hair Goku fighting with Pink-haired Goku

Jesus Christ

People shit on and meme this show a lot, some people have a huge hateboner for it as well.

Its been fun ever since the shitty movie arcs ended though. Animation ranges between shit and decent, but it is fun.

Enemies realized the strongest thing they could ever create to fight Goku, was another Goku.

Inverted Goku

>Now, I know what you're wondering
>What's in the canister?

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So how can Zamasu heal himself so quickly and be unphased by kamehameha?

Wished on dragonballs to be immortal

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>zips behind him
>uses weak energy blast instead of stabbing him with his lightsaber

>a bunch of human weapons bring down the most powerful beings in the universe

Are you fucking with me right now

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I don't really have time to catch up on Super, but I do have some questions.

Do we know where the fuck Black Goku came from? And why does he has a 'Rose'Quartz Super Saiyan transformation?

Why is Trunks fighting a green Kai?

Goku once died to disease

Being super strong doesn't mean you're immune to everything

>even fucking mercenary tao could kick away bullets
>goku could make shockwaves that could blow away smoke and gas
>these two godlike dudes LEL WHAT THE FUCK R THOSE lets just stand here

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Future Trunks did more damage than Vegeta could right there. Why not just make Future Trunks god mode already. Half breeds are superior.

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dude taioken worked even in the cell and buu saga, using blinding lights and gas makes sense

>both of these guys slap bluper god gokus shit
>ss2 trunks manages to harm them
This bullshit is as inconsistent as GT.

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>ss 2 vejito could very easily beat beerus

pretty cool, too bad it would never be seen

Which makes you wonder why didn't beerus with for immortality already or supreme kai of this universe

zamasu probably is weaker than rose, except invincible

More like Vegeta is a dick and destroyed his ear piece, while Goku is not as dense as we think and probably considered reuniting as Vegito.

Is Kai worth watching if I want DBZ nostalgia but don't want to watch all 1000 episodes of it?

does bulma remember Mei or whatever at all in super or do they stick with the joke that they've been irrelevant so long no one remembers then

Black Goku is Goku's body. We don't know yet how Zamasu is controlling it or if someone is inside Goku's body. Rose version I guess is god sayian kai mixed with Zamasu's supreme kai.

I'm confused by this.
>Toriyama wants Trunks to have blue hair like the manga
>Bulma doesn't have purple hair like the manga

really what the fuck

>the 3 frames of jeice hair animation is better than anything in the entirety of
why is that?

>Trunks being better is inconsistent

Nah, that's official. Also he keeps getting his ass kicked, which makes him stronger. Vegeta kicked his ass a few episodes back.

It's a hundred times worse than GT. GT had the decency of following at least some kind of internal logic. Super said fuck it and does whatever the fuck it wants.

Zamasu in supreme kai from another universe. He hates ningens aka mortals because they wage war on each other constantly. So he wants to wipe out humans and create his own world.

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According to the manga Future Trunks in ss2 was almost as strong as ss3 goku. Then Vegeta's training he got a huge boost.

>unironically defending this shit
Trunks being able to harm those guys as SS2 is fucking retarded. That would be like Krillin holding his own against 100% final form Freeza.

Mai is about same age as Bulma.

Shit's fucked up, Trunk's mom used to make his gf blush over how lewd she is.

that's still not suppose to be anywhere CLOSE to even red god form

>That would be like Krillin holding his own against 100% final form Freeza.

Which he totally could at this point if his power has scaled along with the rest of them at all. Which it most likely has, since they all randomly train offscreen and its like Yamcha at this point could probably beat Freiza back at the start. They all scale offscreen to keep up slightly, even though we all know Goku and Vegeta are always at the top.

That's kind of the point of that one scene where Gohan one punch killed Freiza.

The entity has the mind of a child, nothing has changed really.

I do agree though, toriyama needs to stop deity spamming.
>Guise there is a dragon god now who made the super dragon balls
>That's right namekians just ripped off from him
>Also there are so many supreme kais shit like King Kai doesn't matter anymore

>>Guise there is a dragon god now who made the super dragon balls
>>That's right namekians just ripped off from him

Nah, he's just the ultimate original Namekian god. Piccolo gets a power up.

what are you watching on godtube?

And then Freezer one finger pointed Gohan.

Gohan and Yamcha should have jobbing contest the trick is that the winner is the one who jobs to the other

Zen-chan is the Hercule of the multiverse. He actually doesn't have any power at all.

That was always a thing in dbz, all their energy slinging shit is just extended martial arts. It's why throwing a rock at super sayian goku still hurt him when he wasn't paying attention. If you don't use your kai to shield yourself normal physics apply.

>Which he totally could at this point
>Krillin PL 20,000 after Guru power up
>100% Freiza 120,0000
You don't know what you're talking about.

>Gohan one punch killed Freiza
Toei filler scene that was never canon.

He's talking about fusion Reborn.
As much as I like that movie, most of it is just fan service.
Adult Gohan from Z could definitely have beaten Frieza, especially not in 100%. But making him explode in one punch?

>Zen-chan is the Hercule of the multiverse.
That's already a character. Its the pink guy in the universe tournament who beat Hit.
>He actually doesn't have any power at all.
Destroyed ten universes on a bad day once, and is literally DBuniverse god.

>>Krillin PL 20,000 after Guru power up

And then he kept training, and kept training, and kept training. You're the one who doesn't know what you're talking about since you seem to think his power stopped increasing at that point. He trained for Android arc, he trained for Cell, he trained for Buu, he's still shown to be training in Super.

At this current point he could easily kill Freiza from that time.

ZAMASU

Dante

>he trained for Buu,
No he didn't. The closest thing he did to training was sort of doing the fusion dance with Piccolo. Oh, wait. I just remembered that one scene where Buu showed up in other world and kicked Krillin's ass. I wouldn't really count that.
>he's still shown to be training in Super.
Where?

>mfw someone predicted this 3 years ago
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life is strange

Zalma isn't confirmed to be a namekian god.

All movie are not canon anyway. That's why they remade both only not shit latest movies in Super.

There was zero fucking reason not to start from where Res F left off. People who watched that shit are most likely the people who are now DBS's audience.

>Where?
Trains a bit with 18 in a scene from what I recall.

If you're counting other world scene, then Krillin was totally training in the afterlife with everyone at that point.

I really don't remember him training with 18 at all in Super.
He trained for a few hours at most in other world with Yamcha. How much rdo you honestly think he got in results?

>Yamcha at this point could probably beat Freiza
Yamcha couldn't take down a skyscraper, let alone a planet

Yajirobei cut Vegeta tail when he was a huge fucking ape with 10x his normal powerleve, putting him 1000 times stronger that the poor yajirobei with a sword.
When the fuckers are not paying attention they're vulnerabile to that shit.
Krilin was about to kill wounded Vegeta with a sword, too.

>Gohan completely loses it when 16 dies
>doesn't revive him

Why?

>How much rdo you honestly think he got in results?

It was something, he's still called the strongest human after all. Even though that's bullshit and Tien should be the strongest human.

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Yamcha trained with King Kai, Kami, and a few others. He's still kind of decent even though he's the first to lose when he is present.