A game has an awful first 20 hours but a stellar last 20 hours

A game has an awful first 20 hours but a stellar last 20 hours.

Is it a good or bad game?

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It's a good game that the executives made the developers stretch out so that they could sell it at a full $60.

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It's neither, it's mediocre.

bad, a game that isn't good within 5 minutes of starting is not worth playing.

Neither, it's Okami.

The answer is subjective relative to each person's tastes.
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Name one game that does this, a fucking abysmal first half, but an absolutely fantastic second half.

Sounds like a squeenix game

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Depends on what you're saying makes it awful. I can't think of any game where the first half's gameplay is shit, but the second half is a complete turn around. Features get added in as you play, but never anything so drastic as to affect that kind of change.

Still, better a bad first half and great second half than the other way around.

Some people could say FFXIII. Although I personay loved the game all around.

The goddess' game for one

Holy shit, huh.

Alan Wake.

Objectively a good game.
The beginning half keeps away the casuals.

>game has a good 3 hours and an awful 12 hours

Serious Sam BFE

The first disc of FFVIII, which is basically proto-XV

I thought conker was god all the way through.

Boring first 15-20 hours, fucking phenomenal last 40 hours

It's worth the wait in my mind, still one of my favourite games ever

I wouldn't say half but isn't 20 hours what it takes to get to play a persona game? (At least 4 anyways)

Trails in the Sky FC I'd say.

>First 3 chapters
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>Last 2 chapters
>Holy shit the story actually got interesting

Well fuck me, well played.

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More like only someone new to gaming wouldn't automatically think of those games as prime examples

Witcher 1, kinda

I actually really liked it once you got to Yukiko's castle.

Shadow Yukiko is the second hardest boss after Shadow Kanji if we're talking about vanilla.

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Don't be so hurtful

I could have said newfag and called it a night but I didn't. Give me some credit

In my opinion, Witcher 1 is more of a rollercoaster of excellence and shittiness.

Also rank those chapters

>Prologue: 4/10
>Chapter 1: 8/10
>Chapter 2: 2/10
>Chapter 3: 7/10
>Chapter 4: 11/10
>Chapter 5: 4/10 apart from werewolf batman
>Epilogue: 8/10

That doesn't even makes sense whatsoever

The best way I ever heard this put was as follows:

"When you play a Guitar Hero game, does the game give you until the second half of the song to get it right, but let you totally eat shit the first half?

No. You fucking fail. You have not done well enough that the game will have any faith that you won't fuck that up too."

Not really 20 hours, but Metroid-likes aren't usually very fun until you get enough items to actually go off the rails.

Stop being upset and think critically for a moment

Twilight Princess

What about the opposite? A game with an amazing first 20 hours but an awful last 20 hours (including final/secret bosses.)

or just someone that doesn't play weebshit waifu simulators

If the bad bits are vital in setting up the good bits, absolutely.

Actually, that's basically what I'd give the chapters too. I'd probably give the prologue a little bit more, make chapter 1 a little bit less and chapter 2 a little bit more. Otherwise, basically identical.

Finales are more important than beginnings.

I'd prefer if the game has a shit beginning but a wonderful ending than the opposite.

Witcher 3

I'm not gonna defend P4 but no FF is even close weebshit. Lightning may be female but she's far from the standard waifu (probably due to her being a genderbent Cloud/Squall mix

Absolutely a good game I mean

Not god awful but the later half of Dark Souls isn't as good as the first half I unironically love Seathe's Funhouse and Tomb of Giants.

so games shouldn't pull an Ito?

except for the story with the harpy that had DSL, that ending was actually good

A bad game.

A good game is good throughout, not just 50% of the time

There are no perfect games.

He said good, not perfect

No game is good 100% of the time.

Any licensed LEGO games half meaning completing the story that aren't Star Wars or Indiana Jones

A bad game is a bad game. You can't say its only a half.

When you qualify it that way, it's entirely subjective.

Pong.

Yeah, it feels better to have poor expectations proven wrong than it is to be let down, but the problem with games is that if you want people to invest too much time into a shitty beginning chances are they won't even bother to see all the payoff at the end. Someone who got hooked by the great first half of the game might well keep playing just by force of inertia.

terrible gameplay

>chapter 2

Yeah thats about right. Fuck that shit.

I honestly liked the underlying story but the amount of backtracking through the same street over and over again and pacing issues really fucked it for me.

If its split id say its mediocore. Hell even in ff games its like first 10 hours are shit because its setting up the world but then the rest 60+ hours of the game, depending what you do is how long it takes, is fun/good.

Mediocre

MGSV

It wasn't awful if you got through the 1st 20, stop trying to fit in.

>stop trying to fit in

What does that even mean in this context

Are you just a retard who repeats things he reads on Sup Forums?

I never got past the Gamer guy but I think I was severely underleveled.

For me is unplayable, if it doesn't get good after 5 hours I usually drop the game.

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Okami

It depends on what genre the game is, and why the bad parts are bad.

A racing game who's first 20 hours are bad due to a need to grind to unlock shit is preferable to a racing game who's first 20 hours are bad due to being an unplayable glitchy mess.