Is there a vidya pyromancer that can beat Chandra Nalaar?

Is there a vidya pyromancer that can beat Chandra Nalaar?

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Charizard.

The Pyro

The fuck are planeswalkers anyway

I never played magic, but how does the +1 and -7 stuff work? What's getting added and subtracted?

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Ignus, easy.

They're (You)...the player!

The loyalty at the bottom right corner. + abilities increase it and - abilities decrease it. The planeswalker dies at 0 loyalty.

The card's health.

that 4 is her loyalty. She would start with 4 loyalty counters.

Those are + and - loyalty abilities.

So if you +1 you get 5 loyalty counters.

You -3 and she has 1 loyalty counter left.

Planeswalkers were a fucking mistake
Yugioh-tier bullshit

She starts at 4 loyalty counters (bottom right). Ability uses are added/subtracted from that. It's also her life total. Planeswalkers can be chosen to be attacked during combat and it's up to the player who cast the planeswalker to block and save it.

Also, any spell that says "target player" can also affect planeswalkers. So Lava Spike, for example, would instantly delete 3 of her loyalty counters.

If only there were a number on the card somewhere.

Thank you for explaining that.

Hello.

Planeswalkers are fags that have a thing called a "spark" that lets them move to different planes of existance which are essentially alternate realities.

A long time ago being a planeswalker meant you were godlike. Then some planeswalker meddling tore the multiverse a new asshole and a bunch of planeswalkers had to sacrifice their sparks to fix it. This changed the nature of sparks and planeswalkers are no longer godlike, just really powerful spell niggers.

A newbie to MTG, but this seems like a good card.
Is it?

This seems really shit compared to Chandra unless you get his -12 off, but if you can do that then you were going to win anyway.

>Exile all cards from target player's library
inexcusable

tl;dr the + and - effects can only be done once a turn at sorcery speed. They add and subtract to the number in the bottom right. You can't do a - unless you have enough so no going into the negatives. If that number ever reaches 0 they go to the graveyard.

Yes.

Could be good in a UR control deck. Depends on what kind of control is available to support it.

I bet some modern fags will find a way to use it.

It's great.

>seems really shit
L O L

chandra ability isn't game ending like this dude is, this dudes ability is literally you win.

And as for Liliana of the Veil, can you seperate opponents deck into lands for one half and everything else in the other or is it just like you cut the deck and sacrifice one half?

Planeswalkers are balanced and only scrubs complain about them. 99% of the ones that people scream about being overpowered end up being five dollar rares once standard rotates; most are really not that great outside of specific environments. I can see getting mad at a kitchen table player who builds a Superfriends deck or something for his casual group, but if you actually want to consider yourself a "good" player, you'll need to know how to work around them.

Well thought out and professionally argued, user, I humbly concede defeat.

learn to play you fucking casual trash

I would enjoy this game a lot more if it didn't cost a fortune to play and on top of that be a p2w type of game.

An actual good Chandra?
Hell has frozen over.

Nigger that card defined legacy for a long time. It has so much utility for dealing with threats.

Big fatty on your opponent's field? Snap it to his hand.

Need to dig for and answer? Fucking built in ponder.

Have answers and nothing good to bounce? Well lets fuck with his draw. "Oh lol he's getting a land you can keep that", or "oh lol that would be nasty you're not drawing that."

-12 is basically insta win.

>free card
>get 2 damage if you can't use it

Planeswalkers are so stupid.

it only costs a fortune if you're trying to win pro tours and shit

>99% of the ones that people scream about being overpowered end up being five dollar rares once standard rotates
"i-it's only overpowered until you can't play it anymore!"
kys

fuck off
You're cool

Dhalsim would fuck her up so hard.

Thousands of cards are available, of course some are gonna be shit, some are gonna be op, I think format rotations are great counters to this unlike the hot mess that is YuGiOh

When is magic gonna stop using and focusing on these meme planeswalkers like chandra, jace, nissa and liliana? When are we gonna get some new ones?

Jace broke standard, is banned from modern, and is a staple in legacy. Wizards considers it a mistake. They're playing with fire by printing a card that approximates it

A chandelure with the flash fire ability

>4 mana

It's shit

That seems absurdly strong. I thought the rule of Chandras is they were supposed to be shit always?

Planeswalkers are what made me stop playing Magic

It's a virtual 2 mana planeswalker with that +1 mana ability.

That's brainstorm, not ponder

LotV separates all permanents they control into 2 piles and the opponent chooses one to keep.
She doesn't touch their hand, library, or grave with her Ult.
I almost never Ult her because her first 2 abilities are just so fucking good.

it pays for half of itself when you get it on the field. Combos really well with Vessel of the voracious.

good thing legacy found an answer to that guy in the form of cheap fast threats.

Red was ruined e we since MaRo took the bright idea from redditards that burns should be sorcery speed because it's "impulsive" for red to want to do damage then or a whole turn later.

Actually all of standard has been shit since RtR and because nothing good gets reprinted in reprint sets, modern and legacy still stay pricey

Jaya Ballard, Jeska of the Pardic, Lord Windgrace, just to name a few.

How many fucking Chandra cards are we up to? Jesus fuck the Jacetice League is cancer.

Yeah, just like Jace the Mind Sculptor. What a terrible card.

Cool, been thinking of getting back into mtg and this is the first half way decent Chandra we have gotten.

KtK standard was the best standard in a long time if you could afford it.
Jeskai Black was my shit.

I never understood why everyone hated this card back in the day. Then again I ran a straight red burn deck so I might have had it easier.

Guy: I play Jace, the Mind Sculpt-
Me: Lightning bolt
Guy: Oh. nevermind

Anyone else tired of the Eldrazi bullshit?

Magic has been jerking it to HP Lovecraft for two long. It is played out and gross.

new colorless planeswalker please

They used to be. Now they're mercenaries for hire since they want your precious mana reserves. I don't know what the player is any more, you're not neowalker trash though so I dunno why you're suppose to relate.

Name ONE good RR or 1R card in standard
In theory, sure, but not once everyone sees the gimmick and main boards anti enchantment and artifact which is incredibly beneficial given the poo in Loo theme

Flamecaller was fine, wasn't amazing but found a place in some decks.

>Playing TMS without protection
>implying you'll always have lightning bolt at the ready

You do realize they maintain priority when a walker resolves, right? Unless there's a creature that absolutely needs to leave the field, nobody just lets their walker sit in bolt range.

>friends get into MTG super casually, invite me over to play because they know I'm into it
>they don't use any type of formats
>use stupid overpowered shit on them
>tinker out Blightsteel Colossus on turn 3
>stomp them with vampire, then goblin, then elf, then merfolk tribals
>infect proliferate deck
>I'm not invited to play with them anymore

I showed them, guys. I showed them.

...

You don't separate their deck, you separate their permanents. And generally you want to put like half of 1 color of lands in one pile + some shit, and half of another color + some shit in the other. The idea is you can force them off of an entire color of mana + cut their landcount in roughly half + their other shit in half. If you just split land and everything else you bascially get a boardwipe that doesn't set them back on land. The other way is far more devastating.

Also was meant for

>caw blade flashbacks

God is standard always doomed to be shit

>Jeskai Black

Just hearing this shit pains me. It tells you have fucked the mana base is when garbage like that dominates the meta, and everything devolves into 4-color goodstuff.

>has no means to protect its self

Any planes walker that can't deal with getting beat to death is shit.

The original Eldrazis with annihilate were great. Spawning Breath + Brooding Birthing -> Hand of Emrakul would usually win games if you got it off the bat. The new ones are shit.

>This seems really shit

Oh boy, you're in for a real wake up call.

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Actually you're right, I hated KtK and cycled through about six decks but when Fate and Dragons released I got a homebrew warrior deck going and it ate all the top tiers. RDW could beat it though, but thankfully most people played UW control, UB control, GR ramp, and Abzan memerange at my LGS

Help making a viable Mono green commander deck?

Yes. But that should be over now come Kaladesh. Pity it will take another year before all the shit rotates out.

Fuck I am going to miss my Sword of the Animist in the coming rotation.

Did you just skip over the -3 that gets rid of most threats?

It was a lot of fun to drop Grandmaster and Crackling Doom, then snap it back with Jace.

Yeah sure but minus three is too high even if you use it, in rare cases that will leave you at mercy of multiple small killspells

People who say this format was better just baffles me. Bant is taking up like %36 of the meta.

I literally only lost once at locals with Jeskai Black.
Rally and Coco decks got shat on by it.

fair and balanced :^)

just counter it, bro :^)

Oh I just mean plot wise it is getting old. The whole everyone is horrors now thing sucked. I've had some fun with wolves/werewolves, but it is just for screwing around

if you're talking about them purely aesthetically, pic related
the tentacle monsters aren't as good as the ones with floaty bits but eldrazi are as good as you can get with a "saturday morning cartoon villain" archetype

It still gets you net tempo if you dispose of a card and they spend another to knock the last point.

I'm really unimpressed with kaladesh. Waiting for a set since khans to draw my interest.

KtK rotated months ago.
Nobody was playing Bant back then

lmao

Most every standard format has a deck that dominates the meta, that's the reality of a card game.

If I'm not mistaken the player who plays Jace retains priority and can use his +2 ability before the opponent responds with something. So you could play around lightning bolts with him.

But people are playing bant now which is what I'm talking about. Despite the fact that it turned into 4C goodstuff near the end, there was still a lot of actual variety. Right now Bant just fucking obliterates everything.

They need at least a good one.

>there was still a lot of actual variety

honestly M Scizor EX is a terrible Mega card. It's only plus is that it only needs 2 Metal energy to dish out 120 damage, so if you get lucky you can start attacking real fast

I have it and i hate it


Now this nigga right here

Chandra keeps getting updates because her abilities are always absolute trash in the meta and WotC can't get their heads out of their asses to give her good skills because they fear the RDW meta potential.

Yeah, Bant supremecy needs to end. WotC didn't print shit to fix it and instead gave Bant a new walker.

go elves

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Are you telling me that out of the 10+ Chandra cards thus far she hasn't managed to churn out anything useful? How is it even possible to fuck up that many times? Are Planeswalker cards just that hard to balance?

I mean, nuwalkers are shit, there's no denying that, but that doesn't mean they have to be mechanically.

Bant is good because of Coco, so it's about to take a huge hit just by virtue of rotation. No need to print shit to fix it, and a mediocre walker doesn't change things.

Siege Rhino was only good at the beginning.
He was nowhere near as good a Grandmaster, Mentor, Jace, and motherfucking Kalitas.

well, considering Wizards has been jamming their gay wanna be justice league bullshit down everyone's throats for the past year and a half, and that Mark Rosewater has confirmed they will be in every set from here on out, and that most MtG players are mouth breathing neckbeards who love to take Jace's flaccid cock, they're pretty much here to stay. they're even trying to make an MtG movie starring the planeswalkers from what I've heard.

Wizards hate Red

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