F The study, spotted by VentureBeat, shows the number of Steam users that acquired a HTC Vive only grew 0.3 per cent in July and was flat in August. Similarly, growth from Oculus Rift’s Steam userbase only reached 0.3 per cent in July, and 0.1 per cent in August. Speculation suggests that we’re seeing the end of the early adoption for VR. Anyone willing to splash out full price – hundreds of dollars for a headset, thousands for a compatible PC or laptop – is expected to have done so, meaning the only way the VR market can grow is to reach out to more mainstream or lower-spending consumers.
Sony’s PlayStation VR launches next month, while Google is hoping to launch Daydream soon. It could be that mobile and home console VR solutions prove to be more appealing and accessible to the broader market.
Well yeah, I'm not buying it at this price with no games and all the of the early adaptor problems. I'm sitting this out to the 2nd or 3rd generation at a quarter of the price.
Levi Sullivan
How so? Most people on steam have worse PC speccs than the PS4.
Anthony Cooper
Called it
So much hype for nothing
Thomas Nelson
This kind of VR is a gimmick. And with gaming industry being at such a poor state, i'd rather they made more games instead of gimmicks
Brody Mitchell
I'm just going to wait 5 years until the Vive costs 200 buckaroos
Blake Sanders
>800$ hardware, disregarding the need to upgrade your gpu >literally no games who would have thought that vr would flop without games?
Isaiah Carter
VR will never be more than a gimmick, and the ideal version of VR will never exist.
Connor Brooks
Nah, it's another useless sony product
Gavin Kelly
HTC Vive costs more than my entire fucking PC
This is entirely a cost issue. Thank god for the early adopters that will fund development on this. Losers
Ayden Rivera
>Release gimmick product for $900 >Expect every game studio to drop their work and start working on your game >Tap out your rich Californian liberals who use dad's credit card >No market left
Shocking
Carter Torres
Yes I bought an oculus. And it's shit. The porn sucks ass. Waifu sex simulator sucks even more ass. I have a $2000 desktop and I still get shit fps that makes me feel sick. Ever game apart from blaze rush sucked, chronos is the worst pile of shit I have ever played. I really wish I didn't buy this piece of shit, Oculus doesnt give two shits about their customers either.
Jaxon Kelly
>PC VR has nogaems while PS4 VR is getting a ton of games
Why did I have to listen to you guys and build a nogaems computing platform
Leo Long
Give people a fucking reason to invest in this shit.
Make it affordable.
Have games for it.
As of now only NEET subhumans wanking to anime girls are going to buy this.
Xavier Perez
B-But VR is my only hope for a beautiful VRMMO. It's the closest thing I can get to being inside another world. Why aren't more people excited about this dammit!
Joshua Allen
pretty much this oculus support is dogshit
Logan Collins
>not already playing it
Justin Powell
I mean it's not THAT hard to make a VRMMO isn't it? Just make the next mmo and make the maps VR friendly and optimized for VR. Make it prettier than usual to drum up interest. Give absolute freedom to explore and done! I'd buy that game even if it costs $100.
Connor Davis
PC is basically a Blizzard station now because there are no other worthwhile games
Tyler Ward
>t.consolecuck
Ethan Ramirez
PS3 was the same early on and then look what happened.
Carter Gray
No games
Honestly without the right motion sensing and haptic feedback, VR is a going to be a very shallow experience. The main reason most games are about shooting and driving is because these activities don't require much sensory input or sensory feedback.
No one has developed (affordable) technology to let you feel stuff in a virtual world. VR gives you a bit more immersion with head tracking, but ultimately it's still looking through a window, just like your monitor or TV.
Isaiah Gray
a huge price drop, a huge quelity drop from the competition and a lot of video games?
Adrian Roberts
VR will be good for porn and sims, that's it.
Noah Parker
Literally zero games
Nathan Murphy
This
Caleb Edwards
Because there's not fucking games, the technology was developed but no talent was taken on to make a innovative, exclusive killer ap. All they have are adapted flight simulators and shovelware.
Justin Miller
I don't understand how nobody at oculus asked why there was no killer app.
Andrew Scott
What ever happened with Doom 3 BFG VR support?
Blake Adams
I don't know about that. People seem pretty damn impressed when they tried existing games in VR. Skyrim, Guild Wars 2 etc.
Nathaniel Johnson
People were impressed when they played Wii Tennis. I had the opportunity to play Mario Tennis on a Virtual Boy, and that was also surprisingly impressive.
Jacob Ward
>cost 800 gorillion >needs a 1000 gorillion PC >literally no Games, only tech-demos >demos that cost $40 for 10 minutes play
at least sony doesn't call it "games", calls it Interactive VR experiences.
Jose Mitchell
They can't even figure out how to move in a first person VR game. How are they going to make a VRMMO in first person?
>Doesn't have to be first person Then what's the point?
Alexander Scott
existing games in VR isn't going to sell units. A big budget, must have mainstream game is what is needed and would be worth a thousand stupid indie experimental games.
Lucas Young
>without games I had small hope that NMS VR would be nice. Unfortunately it turned into dog turd.
Jonathan Harris
it could be great with 4k displays and the power to run them, allowing virtual monitors to actually function and let you play normal games without getting motion sick. If stuff like VR concerts, events, and sporting events become available it could also blow up in that virtual touring way.
For now it's just... porn. Nothing else is really worth it.
Anthony Myers
>No one made a new X-Wing vs Tie Fighter for VR
I can't think of a bigger waste of potential
Caleb Nguyen
Playstation VR and Resident Evil 7 is seriously the only chance VR has at taking off.
Resident Evil 7 VR needs to be seriously mindblowing, it needs to be "Dude, you have to fucking play this game in VR.". VR needs two things: an affordable price, and a killer fucking game. If RE7 isn't the kind of game that blows your socks off in VR, it's dead Jim.
Jace Ross
I'd buy a VR headset for porn if it wasn't retardedly expensive.
Daniel Brown
>vive sales mattering when touch is just 2 months away
Zachary Cruz
It's quite probable that VR is where 3D graphics were in 1993-94. HTC Vive is the 3DO, Oculus is the atari jaguar, and PSVR is the SuperFX chip.
Playstation is nowhere to be seem yet.
Lincoln Edwards
Sounds like you have a true piece of shit PC.
Ryder Hill
>Saying there're no games. >Implying we need any other games besides onward. An actual fps multiplayer game on the vive. Check it out you cunts.
Jonathan Robinson
No one did a worthwile game about star wars in move or wii instead they made exclusive kinect game
Kek
Bentley Sullivan
It's pretty impressive we managed to send a robot on mars.
>Sup Forums is still ignorant as fuck about VR I don't get it, why not try it for yourself?
Leo Collins
I think not being able to stream VR properly is a huge reason why VR fails. Those who do have to improvise with complex setups in order to get a video feed in decent quality and the right ratio out there.
I believe streamers could push VR big time but there's simply no convenient way to do it.
Jacob Peterson
Fuck you dude, I'm not dumb enough to buy this shit for some crappy 3D games.
We've had 3D graphics for the past 20 years, and I can count the number of decent waifushit 3D games on a single hand, and the number of decent 3D porn games on no hands at all, because they're all terrible.
Ian Morales
Market would probably grow if there were more than full price tech demos on it, or games that use VR in the sense that Wii games needed waggle controls.
Cooper Barnes
VR might be the biggest blunder in electronics history. who do they think can afford this shit, the global elite??? everyone is fucking poor right now. over 50% of the American population makes less than 30k a year. think about that. let that soak in.
we won't even talk about europoors.
Dylan Anderson
Real VR is still 5 / 10 years away, this gen is just the prototype. The real deal needs much higher resolution and framerate, wireless headset paired with a lower entry cost for devs to give two shits.
Haptic feedback and omni-direcitonal treadmills are not pre-requisites for VR taking off.
Colton Richardson
Isn't this Second Life?
David Gray
You guys are confused. VR is currently in early access, rich nerds are buying headsets and deluding themselves into believing the future has arrived. This is critical for the rest of us because while the VR technology is game changing it's not ready for the general public. The high price is there to keep out normies while they work out the bugs and build some quality experiences. Expect $499 headsets, AAA games, and everything to run on a middle of the road gaming machine in 5 years.
Also PSVR is moderately cool but they don't have roomscale or good motion controls. Keep your fingers crossed that it's not a big enough disaster to kill VR for everyone.
For people who hate VR and don't want it to become a thing - why? Go fuck yourselves? If they work out the bugs the potential for amazing gaming experiences is limitless.
Parker Gomez
t. William Usher
Bentley Williams
>Wow these personal computer things won't take off, who would spend thousands of dollars in this day and age for one! >Wow these video game things won't take off, who would spend the better part of a thousand dollars on some just to RUN a game! >Wow this VR thing won't take off, who would pay upwards of $1000 to have a gimmick
Insert 80 billion references to why you guys are retarded from the phone to the plane to literally all new tech.
VR is literally the future, and as with all things that are new are expensive as fuck until they find ways to optimize and cut costs.
Five years time is my personal estimate for how long it takes for VR to be commonplace among gamers in the same way a gaming pc is, and this is a conservative estimate.
Bentley Long
Do you really think the average person will spend $400 on a PS4 NEO, especially if they already have a non-NEO PS4. And then an additional $400 for Sony VR?
That's still a plunge of $800 just to be able to play Sony VR. And it doesn't even include any actual games.
Nathan Ortiz
it is i-it counts, r-right?
Landon Robinson
>that guy who spent $3000 keep trying to justify wasting your money
Sup Forums don't have jobs therefore can't purchase vidya outside the allowance parents provide. Parents are old and don't understand new things ergo can't be convinced to buy VR.
Gavin Gutierrez
>Expect AAA games
Well no this gen isn't just a test run, companies aren't going to invest millions of dollars making a real VR game unless the market is established. Sony is the saviour of VR showing what actual games might look like instead of stupid experiments and sports.
Charles Bennett
>Honestly without the right motion sensing and haptic feedback, VR is a going to be a very shallow experience.
Exactly. But I'd argue even further
What people call "VR" nowadays is nothing more than a smartphone glued to the face. Coupled with headphones, all you're really doing is reducing external stimuli.
HMDs are not VR. They are just one possible way to realize one of the conditions to VR.
Besides, the modern definition of VR is really lousy. If we go by the dictionary, playing NES on a black and white 5" TV is technically VR, because you're interacting with a computer generated world through sounds and images.
Honestly, unless all senses are correctly stimulated, it's not VR. It's not a virtual "reality".
Consumers go with the expectation they're going in to the Matrix, and while wearing a VR headset for the first time is an exciting experience because of the novelty, once you realize it's not the Matrix experience, it loses the appeal immediately.
Said that, I do believe those cheap VR headset are useful and interesting on their own right, but forget about VR and gaming.
Lincoln Miller
Not sure if it's good enough to sell VR but sure it still counts.
Zachary Gonzalez
If VR is anything like the personal computer this might be the perfect time to invest big in it.
Carter Cruz
VR has very little mainstream appeal. It most likely just stay a thing for enthusiasts and niche outlets. The idea of shutting the entire world out instead of enhancing the world you have doesn't appeal to most people.
AR on the other hand. That has potential. Even if it's just to enhance your regular old display/TV with extra display elements.
Dominic Collins
>>For people who hate VR and don't want it to become a thing - why? Go fuck yourselves? If they work out the bugs the potential for amazing gaming experiences is limitless. No, it's just the next step in dumbing everything down for the masses. Do I think the odd FPS game might be fun in VR? Sure, in 20 years when everyone has fibre and full body tracking, maybe. Would I want to spend even 5% of my gaming time with all this shit strapped on? No, because I'm not a fucking moron, and the potential applications are severely limited.
Jaxson Young
>BY WILLIAM USHER >3 YEARS AGO
Noah Brooks
>Wow this 3D thing won't take off, who would pay upwards of $1000 to have a gimmick
Jaxon Gomez
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Levi Campbell
I said 'try' it not buy it.
But companies are investing millions into VR and Sony isn't doing anything but poisoning the well.
Hudson Miller
Most yuropoors earn less than that but they also don't have to pay out of the ass for their healthcare and shit.
It's apples and oranges.
Ryan Powell
>The study, spotted by VentureBeat, shows the number of Steam users that acquired a HTC Vive only grew 0.3 per cent in July and was flat in August You stupid fuck, OP.
This means that sales growth is flat, not that sales are flat. All they need is a new marketing campaign.
Owen Jackson
>its b---bbbeter noww!!!
Kevin Rogers
>literally only 1 game looks okay and its Onward >800 for 1 game
Benjamin Adams
VR is the segaCD/32X of our generation
Juan Robinson
>games are not advanced yet >hardware needs absurd power that the general public wouldn't have >companies are already trying fuck each other to become the last one standing which makes everything shit for anyone >porn vr needs more work
Juan Roberts
Honestly I'd like to see the return of arcade rooms if it means that we get quality VR experiences with omnidirectional treadmills and the whole thing
We need something new to occupy all that empty retail space in towns and cities
Isaac Lee
>Thinking PSVR will save this fad lol
Joseph Lewis
You can play WoW first person with VR right now with head tracking
Liam Baker
>But companies are investing millions into VR
And what have they come up with? you need games like far point and biohazard; you need IP like batman and star wars. Sony is what will stop VR from dying on the vine, Investors don't usually like waiting 10 years for the technology to be ready.
Ryan Gutierrez
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Matthew Moore
Romero was right Carmackfags BTFO
Jackson Ward
Only waifufag losers cared about this crap. Good fucking riddance
Jose King
>get called out for clickbait written by known sonygger blogger >responds with clickbait written by known sonygger blogger
It's impressive how stupid you are.
Charles Johnson
>3D TV on your face is the future troll harder autist
Colton Mitchell
VR Arcade rooms would just be laser tag until far in the future where Yugioh becomes reality
Xavier Robinson
It won't “save” it but it's the only chance for vr to make it mainstream
Dominic Ortiz
Where are all those VR fanboys who shit on people that said VR would flop?
Anyway, the sweetest thing about this is Facebook losing billions of dollars on literally nothing.
Sebastian Powell
You can play a lot of non-vr games in vr, the magic of memory reading and editing.
They've come up with lots of games end engine support for VR. You don't need AAA trash, what the fuck makes you think that matters?
Sony is literally just funding exclusives for a shitty platform, they aren't helping VR at all.
Adam Johnson
>3D TV on your face >I haven't tried it yet
Gabriel Hill
VR is never gonna take off ar is the next thing with streaming games
Brayden Wood
It's actually even older, that article was written in October 2012.
Jaxson Clark
>omnidirectional treadmills Remember that KS which was supposed to be that? the devs ran away with the money
Jose Richardson
>You don't need AAA trash, what the fuck makes you think that matters?
Because money doesn't grow on trees? I'd be very interested to know how many if any current vr game makers have turned a profit. Also experimental indie games are trash.
Ian Campbell
>implying zeppelins will fail! >implying arcades will ever die! >implying baggy jeans are a fad! Anyone can be a cherry picking moron
