Why do you guys like New Vegas so much?

There's maybe 50-60 hours of content MAX including all the 4 endings and DLC. It's a pretty good game, but it's not astounding.

>Using length as a measure of quality.

Congratulations on being cancer that gives us bloated pieces of shit filled with filler.

>including all the 4 endings and DLC

You played through the main story four times, did every sidequest and finished all the DLC in 50-60 hours?

1) because what's in those hours is the important part

2) because it blows anything Bethesda has done out of the water

3) because it's unappreciated pretty much everywhere else so we're overcompensating a bit.

Similar reasoning is behind KOTOR 2 appreciation

>10+ different factions
>Mulitple DLC
>jingle jangle
>the ambiance of the mojave
>DR MOBIUS!!!
>weapon modding
>expansive crafting

theres more but those are some reasons why I like it

>110 hr on 1st playthrough
keep ur shit to yaself u cunt

It's a RPG. Parts of the fun comes from roleplaying as your own character, which is impossible in Bethesda games. And the majority of the NV content destroys Fallout 3's.

That being said, it's probably overrated a bit. Fallout 2 remains the #1 Fallout though.

It's crap. Fallout 3 was so much better

you must be pretty deep into the spectrum user

It's a modernized RPG that's actually good and not completely streamlined crap with fake and shitty choice and inability to be who you want. It's maybe a bit overrated on Sup Forums because we're trying to compensate for the existence of these people

I'm about to start it, how do I disable those cheat item packs? And will gun runners arsenal replace existing guns?
I want a more vanilla experience.

>50-60 max
You fuckin what?

>And will gun runners arsenal replace existing guns?
no.
You'll find the normal guns as usual, but you'll have to buy the GRA variants

Unless you get a mod like JSawyer which integrates them

>Fallout 3
Overal crap, but so satisfying to get rid of BLM-dawg

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>Parts of the fun comes from roleplaying as your own character, which is impossible in Bethesda games.

It's pretty easy to do that in TES games. And reasonably easy to do so even if your background is predetermined. Only Fallout 4 royally fucks that up.

>"H-he has a differing opinion to m-me, how dare he!"
>A-autist!
>"Heh sure showed him :^)"

A: Unless you rushed and barely did sidequests or looked up a walkthrough to every quest, it should definitely have been more than 60 hours.

B: Length obviously determines quality, right?

C: >people can have opinions?!

I called him an autist I couldve made an argument but kinda has a point, (about the games) debating an opinion isnt a bad thing.

50-60 hours isn't even enough to get out of the think tank in OWB.

because it's actually a Fallout game and it's good.

Because it's da best, mayne

Why is my fps on NV always fluctuating so often?
It'll be 120+ someplaces, then I'll go into a cavern to explore and it goes from 55-90fps.
I just want it STABLE!

>stealth build
>shit terrible at aiming in combat so I miss a lot if my opening shot doesn't kill
>dlc enemies are fucking hawks with telescopes wearing glasses made of binoculours while I am apparently made of sirens and traffic cones
Why at they so perceptive? Sneaking is literally impossible

>implying monitors show anything above 60fps

>mfw playing this on intel hd 4000

I know that feel

>There's maybe 50-60 hours of content MAX
>including all the 4 endings and DLC
If you ignore all of the fucking sidequests and factions, then maybe it's that short.
>4 endings
Nooope.

That's why you're supposed to expand it with mods. Go play the Bounties trilogy, Russell, For the Enclave, Boom to the Moon, Tales of the Burning Sands, New Vegas Library, and a whole bunch of other long quest mods and then come back.

>with dlc include
>50-60 hours max
Have fun with your shit bait op

Okay well now we're getting into hundreds of hours of gameplay... The game itself (w/ dlc) is easily 90 hrs

>playing this game for the first time
>sort of having fun
>some of the quests are kind of bad though
>that ghoul rocket quest near Novac was the least fun I've had in a long time
>make it to the Strip
>kill Benny and get the platinum chip
>bombarded by quests and exposition at every turn
>quest log full of all kinds of bullshit
>can't go anywhere without being pelted with essays and more quests
>afraid to explore
>level 18 and still as weak as I was at level 1 (jsawyer + hardcore as recommend)
>exploring doesn't seem fun at all since the game is just hauling guns and ammo back and forth to various stores

It's not horrible or anything, but I don't know. I guess I was expecting something great from the way people talk about it.

that's the thing. you don't need mods to find the game enjoyable. i beat the whole game vanilla and sure there were a few hiccups but the overall experience was joyful. When I found Marcus I absolutely lost my shit.

My PC has to be pretty damn good for a game like NV, right?
I have about 30 something mods installed, most aren't visual. No ENB or anything. I just don't get why it randomly stutters and drops frames in certain areas!

Of course it's shit. Obsidiots just shill it literally every single day on here.

the game engine is coded like shit, its almost impossible to not have a fluctuating framerate regardless of your rig, especially if running mods.

thanks, I'm just glad to know it's more or less a normal thing. It's not so bad. Smooth most of the time. I'm just not used to playing gamebryo engine games. NV is my first.
Loving it, though.

I think it has to do with newer cards. I have a i7/1080 and it does the same thing

>There's maybe 50-60 hours of content MAX including all the 4 endings and DLC.
I've played for more than 100 hours and not done everything yet.

>hardcore

theres your problem. Its a great challenge when youre used to the game, but it really hampers the fun on a first playthrough. Also youll notice alot of the quests from the strip are basically the same as three different quest chains all advance the main story.

I guess mine would be consider a newer card too?
And damn, you have top of the line. Does it ever drop below 60fps for you?

New Vegas:
>Tons of different factions, all of which have different philosophies and strengths and weaknesses and there are legitimate arguments to be made for all of them
>Open ended
>RPG that allows you to create whatever character you want and always gives you dialogue options that coexist with the character you've created
>Multiple ways of approaching and doing anything, not just combat
>Morally grey, makes the player actually think instead of saying "Option A gets you 50 good guy points"

Fallout 3:
>Two factions, only one is playable
>That one faction isn't even consistent in the lore and they had to demolish the whole fucking BoS lore to make it work and say the chapter in DC just went crazy
>"This is good, that is bad" tier writing
>Everything ultimately leads to the same thing
>Absolutely no impact in the end of the game other than sending a girl to do something or do it yourself
>Multiple inconsistencies in the main story itself
>Super Mutants are just deranged psychopaths who hunt humans for no reason other than "muh meat bags, kill the women and children, we're the bad guys, etc."

Actually, now that I am sitting here thinking about it, the super mutant arcs in both games really sum up the different writing styles and complexity.

New Vegas:
>Jacobstown: Super mutants are just trying to live peacefully and even help nightkin kick their addictions, although the possibility of them kicking it appears slim and they are on the verge of leaving
You choice: Help the mercenaries and NCR rid the area of them which ensures they will never be a problem if their settlement collapses, which you actually see as a distinct possibility since there are multiple conflicts you witness upon arrival.

Fallout 3:
>"We're the bad guys. We cut humans apart for no reason and put them in bags. We commit sadistic acts like mutilating people for literally no reason."
Your choice: You have none, they all attack you on sight.

>which is impossible in Bethesda games
You clearly haven't been playing their games you lying faggot

New Vegas thread?

New Vegas thread.

No shit autist. Yet another shitty thread to add to the pile of Obsididrones trash

>50-60 hours of content MAX including all the 4 endings and DLC
I must have hallucinated the multiple 200+ hours playthroughs I've done where I didn't even do all you could

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Fallout 3 and New Vegas are about the same, though

I kept expecting the "morally gray" stuff to happen but it was clear cut, NCR good guys, Legion bad guys, there's no argument. All quests are basically the same, skill checks add nothing to roleplay (oh you know about machines here is 50 XP, now let me continue on as if you didn't know anything about machines), etc

I get that you guys like New Vegas more, but it's not the shining beacon of hope you seem to think it is

Of course he didn't.

>Yet another shitty thread to add to the pile of Obsididrones trash
What? Like the New Vegas thread that's only ever made once in a while? I see more bait threads about POE than shilling Obsidian threads.

Fuck off, although you're probably going to respond 'baited :^)'

>I kept expecting the "morally gray" stuff to happen but it was clear cut, NCR good guys, Legion bad guys, there's no argument.
Legions definitely more brutal, but you're outright ignoring House and Yes man you retard.
>All quests are basically the same, skill checks add nothing to roleplay (oh you know about machines here is 50 XP, now let me continue on as if you didn't know anything about machines), etc
This is outright wrong.

God, off yourself.

then how do you explain my 305 hours and counting in it?

New Vegas is just Fallout 3 but on the desert.
Thats literally all New Vegas is.
If you honestly believe NV has "better story and writing" than FO3 you are fucking retarded.
They are both equally bad.

>tfw 1300 hours in New Vegas

House and Yes Man aren't factions, though

House is just the joke route, and Yes Man is a failsafe so the player can finish the game regardless of their actions

Dear God, you are joking with these posts right?

You'll get a good PC one day bro, I believe in you

>House is just the joke route

Todd, get out of this board.

God I hate the brotherhood of steel so much.
I'm going to blow up their base after what they tried to do to me an Veronica

Once in a while? Try every fucking day kid. Go check any archive.

>House is the joke route

>Nostalgia, it was my first Fallout and it was mindblowing when I first played it
>The mods made the game fresh and replayable
>I fucking love the vibe the game has, from the aesthetic to the sountrack
>its a fleshed out PRG game with a lot of build variety, a shitload of quests with meaningfull choises, and numerous little things I discover each playtrough
All of the above make me get over the awfull controll, awfull shooting and shit graphics, thats it, no game is perfect, FNV is certainly flawed but its enjoyable nonetheless.

I've just finished Old World Blues. I didn't really expect a le wacky reddit science bazinga story to repeatedly hit me in the feels. Poor Dr. Mobius, he was the real raisin I didn't just kill all the Think Tank brains for all the crap they've done.

1. come fly with me is a great quest though. if you don't like it you can slaughter all the ghouls though
2. the only quests that are bad in some sense are the ones where you just have to pass a speech check or just go report a thing. even those bring insight into what's happening, either pertaining to factions, characters or other quests. so, they are not useless.
3. so now having many quests at the same time is bad? is it so hard to be able to focus on one thing at a time?
4. i don't understand what's wrong with getting more quests and information about the world. most journals/computer entries either explain some plot, story and setting details or are funny
5. i don't think you should play on hardcore for the first time, before you learn the game mechanics properly and familiarize yourself with the story. you surely made a lot of mistakes, which perks to take or not, what skills to raise and how fast, etc. this is especially true with jsawyer, as it makes the game harder and makes your carry weight drop by 100 among other things. play on normal/hard and no hardcore, learn about the game, and then decide if you want to play it further.
5. lastly, don't pick up everything. you really don't have to, particularly in hc mode. pick up only the ammo you'll need or you'll think you need and mostly don't pick up weapons, except if you have them and want to repair or don't have them but want to use them. don't use more than three weapons. set up a base (the motel room in novac is a perfect place) and store the things you don't use but don't want to sell there, as well as extra ammo.

It hasn't been made in a while, it dies nearly all the time. Nice moving the goalposts though, a New Vegas thread isn't an Obsidian shilling thread.

Quick question, I just finished my first run last night and I never did any of the DLC missions, if I restart and do those, can I come back to the main game and jump to other stuff or is it an end-all thing once you've finished the one of the DLC campaigns?

>NCR
>good guys
There are no good guys. You could say House is the "good" choice actually, but just like the NCR, it's not exactly a fairy tale happy ending.

What are some must have quest mods for NV?

>jsawyer+hardcore
it's like you love tedious grinding

There are plenty of good guys and gals in the NCR. The problem, obviously, is that there are also people like Oliver and Moore in power.

>You could say House is the "good" choice actually

>There's maybe 50-60 hours of content MAX including all the 4 endings and DLC.
Objectively wrong. All of these hours were accumulated during a single vanilla run with prior knowledge of the game. A blind run would take probably 1.5x the hours.

There's around 150 hours of content if you play through all the faction quests and all the DLCs as well as get all the cheevos.

>jsawyer
Project Nevada+rebalance +hardcore on Normal will be much easyer and enjoyable, PN adds a shitload of basic feature that make the game much more digestable.

>jsawyer+hardcore+normal difficulty
Enemies die pretty fast, you die pretty fast, it's fairly lightweight and vanilla. Maybe switch to hard if it gets too easy later.

Nigga House is the reason the Courier is even still alive. Now I know you're trolling.

None. Play it vanilla, it's the best experience. The enemies may seem spongy at first, but things will get better as your DPS increases. If you absolutely cannot handle the spongyness, try a melee run with the "Oh Baby!" super-sledge.

t. someone who has played over 500 hours of modded NV

Any hopes for Fallout: New Orleans?

He asked you for quest mods...

Does the "Wild Wasteland" or whatever perk just add aliens or some shit?

which is impossible in Bethesda games.

morrwind.

I've played through it vanilla, that's why I'm looking for some mods to flesh it out

Obsidian does not have the manpower to work on such a big project when they're already divided between working on Tyranny and PoE2. F: NO, if it ever gets made, will be Bethesda's abortion.

try 500-600 hours

I'd just download cut quest mods. I also personally downloaded the Ulysses companion mod because he was supposed to be a companion anyways.

Monty Python, Aliens references etc. A whole lot of references and silly jokes. If you thought those were funny in FO2, go for it.

There's also a UE4 game with Cain and Boyarsky.

>the only game that obsidian have made isn't a shilling thread

Get a load of this faggot

James Hsu is one of my favorite characters in New Vegas. I hope he becomes president one day.

anything by Someguys, his quest mods are voiced and really good, they add hours and hours of playtrough

Just get New Vegas bounties, it's the only quest mod worth playing, IMO.

>the only game that obsidian have made isn't a shilling thread
Now I KNOW you'e trolling.

This is what everyone recommended, it hasn't really seemed too hard

I don't know how badly I fucked my build up, though

Haha fuck off, I played the game for (According to Steam, ignoring console playtime) 110 hours before I even knew the BoS were in the game AND had a questline.

It's called replayability. Games don't have that anymore

Spoken like someone who fails to understand the concept of a RPG lol

Hsu's really nice, but he's not a political person. In an army where fucking Oliver got to be a general, I don't see him climbing ranks. Really sad, too.

A World of Pain adds a shit ton of new locations, NPCs, and quests to the vanilla Mojave wasteland. Pretty fun. Only problem is none of the NPCs are voiced.

It adds goofy easter egg type shit that might take you out of it if you're looking for a "serious" playthrough.

Like, you can find Indiana Jones' skeleton in a fridge, that kinda stuff.

I'm 100% sure you're a Witcherdrone and consider Witcher 3 to be an actual RPG.

You go back to Mojave after every DLC but you are locked inside all of them bar one before you finish them.