Hey guys, a meme character from 2 is back

>hey guys, a meme character from 2 is back
>hey guys, a shitty extra boss from DDS saga 2 Is back
>oh look a new group of assholes in a plot-light jrpg series
>five routes that are the same shit, not the 6 unique endings like in Nocturne
>we fixed the artwork from IV that shouldn't be even a problem
>we fixed fusion, a main mechanic that fucking persona 4 and devil survivor had no fucking problems with
>hey hey hey, we fixed smirk, a crap mechanic that we retards will keep forcing on you
>we are still using the crap guest redesigns, just more edgy
>here's some more SMTsluts for you losers to draw porn too
>We also added a really ugly dyke for the MC this time around
>fuck megero, more of the shitty xylophone that completely fucks the 3ds speakers

Have you cancelled your pre-order yet user?

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I´m finishing SMT IV, neutral ending for the first time, and sometimes I feel like the game doesn´t want to be beated. They release you on modern day Tokyo after defeating the 4 whites without ANY FUCKING INDICATION of where to go, and when you do, they ask you the name of some deity you don´t know the name of and you´re basically stuck again, and finally they force you to complete a shit ton load of side-quests in order to progress in the main story (being no completing sidequests a requirement to do this ending, to begin with). Fuck, I just want it to end already, I wasn´t even looking for this particular neutral shit.

Demi-fiend is a jobber while the other two previous protags didn't job.

I still need to finish SMTIV since I just kind of got lost somewhere in Tokyo. Hopefully Final's map is easier to navigate.

>Going neutral

Did you start with SMT IV or something? Holy shit.

>SMT
>Porn

IV tokyo map is pretty close to being 1:1 to tokyo, Final map is a lot easier to navigate.

how can you be so autistic?

I can't waut either OP
it's gonna be gr8

>Still no defensive Stat

What were they thinking? With any sort of defensive stat for armor or your character, These games would have been on Par with Nocturne or DDS.

>Implying I am not pirating it.

I've yet to beat the game because of all the catchup quests, fuck that

Seriously thinking about abandoning the game because of this, should I continue?

>Go chaos
>You must now suck the demons' cocks for your "freedom"

>Go law
>You must suck the angels' cock for your LIFE.

>Go neutral
>Both chaos and law go fuck themself
>The only thing they can do is saying "w-we'll be back! You'll see!"

me too, I'm also excited for SMT 4A

>without ANY FUCKING INDICATION of where to go, and when you do, they ask you the name of some deity you don´t know the name of and you´re basically stuck again
You've never played SMT I have you

>Go neutral
>You become a regular pleb and no one sucks your cock

I loaded an old save before the neutral lock literally just so I didn't have to do all of those side quests

same happened to me. took me a full day to finish all that shit

nope, IV was my first one, but everyone said I´ll be fine

well it's easier than the other SMTs but if you get stuck just look up a guide or something

what? Other smt are even more tedious?

I have already played the game but WTF are you even talking about?

This was one of the best SMT games. Much better than 4.

Just the first 2

And you would rather follow the orders of the demons for eternity or get killed after all your hard work by the law side?

I and II are but I was just talking about enemy difficulty, not how easy it is to get lost or not know what to do

Good job i'm good at sucking dick

>We also added a really ugly dyke for the MC this time around
If fucking only. The fact that's it's an effeminate edgelord guy actually makes it worse.

which one would be the worst in that,in your opinion?

Man, he's a fucking 15 year old kid. He doesn't look very effeminate even, his eyebrows are out of control and his hair's not even long.

SMT II is the most tedious SMT game I've played yet, but I still enjoyed it

I'd say the most difficult would be Strange Journey, the best SMT

Pretty much every other SMT protagonist is in the same age group and still manages not to look like the dyke answer to Donte.
That artwork makes it look less awful, but the overall design is still terrible.

You're just wanting to see it negatively and blinded by nostalgia. Demifiend looks way worse. Worse fashion sense with less excuse and worse hair with three cowlicks.

Nanashi's so inoffensive. A green jumpsuit and a sidecut, that's it. In a post-apocalyptic cyberpunk demon world. Do you complain about piercings and mohawks in Shadowrun too? It's way tamer than the setting in general.

Are you fucking blind? Kaneko can only draw effeminate guys and you're bitching about a guy who is supposed to be a punk in a post apocalyptic society ruled by demons? Did you scream about how Demi Fiend walked around shirtless? Or how Serph kept acting together with Heat? Jesus fuck

Here's a list of what's good in SMT4A:

>smirk has been reworked and is now more of a defensive advantage and less snowbally, also less random

>skill affinities make demons more unique, also makes high level physical demons less OP

>party members/guests are actually more useful and reliable. You can make a party work without salvation, for example.

>story is much more coherent than 4 and pretty epic in scale

>more freedom and exploration throughout the game

>stepped away from the law neutral chaos formula and the main routes fit rest of the story well

Nanashi's design is also fine.

They had me at "reworked guests"

I'm really not, demi-fiend was kind of meh but at least unassuming. Compared to normal but distinctly masculine MCs of the first two games and the stylish cyberpunk look of the MCs of SMT I and II, this guy looks like an edgy faggot. And let's not even bring Raidou into this, that would just be unfair at this point.

>Kaneko can only draw effeminate guys
In his current artstyle for guys of a certain age group, kinda. Not for anyone over the age of 20, pic related, or indeed for anything he drew pre-Persona 1. But even then, there's effeminate and then there's edgy punk that looks like it was borrowing the same theme as fucking DmC. Don't deny that it looks terrible.

Hero jobbed so hard that after he died alone in a cave the faction he was actively fighting against regarded him as their greatest hero

And kinda just to make the point, SMT I's hero.

Why are you posting the design that Keneko himself change because he didn't like? Just so you can shitpost about a character from a new game?

Both designs are cool, though.

(you)

>edgy punk that looks like it was borrowing the same theme as fucking DmC
Really nigger? Did the punk movement start with fucking DmC? And no it does not look horrible, it really doesn't look like anything and it fits with the theme the game is going for but do you care about that? Of course not you're just a /smtg/ faggot who came here to shitpost because your general is fucking dead after shitposting yourselves into oblivion

Keep on being a jackass though

Soul Hackers is best SMT
Prove me wrong

Looks like a Jojo character.

Seriously, whats up with atlus franchises that are turning into shitposting cesspits? Every single franchise has people bitching and moaning as loud as they possibly can, it reached the point that you can't fucking talk about them here on Sup Forums

You're full of shit. If Nanashi is somehow offensive to you with how simple his design is, I don't get how you say Aleph is "stylish cyberpunk". You're so insecure about a fucking sidecut that you should be shitting yourself over bright yellow assless chaps, a mullet, different-colored codpiece that draws your attention, and goggles whose shape make absolutely no sense and he never wears.

To make the point that he can draw non-effeminate men? Have another for good measure.
Also, that hero still looks more masculine than Final's, by quite a long way.

>Did the punk movement start with fucking DmC?
You just proved yourself that the punk movement had a massive variety of styles. I have no qualms with cyberpunk in particular, the Hero and Aleph looked great. That style right there looks great. The new MC doesn't have anything nearly as effective, it's punk without style. And he looks like a girl. Yes, moreso than most other Kaneko characters.
>Of course not you're just a /smtg/ faggot who came here to shitpost because your general is fucking dead after shitposting yourselves into oblivion
So what, you're just going to start throwing out random fucking accusations because you've nothing else to do? I don't think I've ever posted on /vg/ ever in the first place.

Even Giorno has jaw definition. Most of the Jojo MCs look more masculine than Final's MC.
Hell, fucking Jolyne looks more masculine than Final's MC.

>digital devil saga saga
lol, ost is the best by far btw

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>a plot-light jrpg series

I like it but the fact that everything dies so easily including the mc is annoying
every enemy is a 1 hit kill
light/dark insta kills on the mc seems a lot more common than other SMTs
if the mc or nemissa gets charmed it's usually a game over since they kill each other in one hit
luckily it's possible to save anywhere you want so it usually doesn't set you back too far

>Implying Isabeau didn't suck your cock

Because it got popular and 4 is on the 3ds while Persona remain on Sony. Consolewars always ruin any dicussion

Etrian Odyssey threads weren't this shitfest until last year though, you also ignore that the P5 threads are also a shitposting maelstrom

Gameplay wasn't that good, but I loved everything else from the dungeons, to the aesthetic, to the music. Shame the dub made the music really quiet for the most part. Also, it's pretty cool that the NG+ even incorporates the reincarnation aspect of the story into it causing changes in events since the MC knows what's going on.

They're stuck up their own ass with cynicism because a spinoff series achieved much more popularity and likewise got more attention from the developers to cash in on it.

It's really frustrating because I like every Megaten series well enough.

Aleph IS stylish cyberpunk. Fuck, at least he IS cyberpunk and not just outmoded punk. And even with hair like that, he still manages to pass for a guy more easily than someone with a partially shaved head.
>assless chaps
Wow. I think that says more about you than Kaneko if I'm honest.

3DS piracy attracted more fags than any other piracy group for whatever reason

Its funny becase your only argument is falling back to outdated designs

>Ignoring Tadano and Hero
Hell, even modern Aleph can still pass for a guy.

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Why is he so smug?

Forgot to mention how Fiends aren't 1/256 encounters anymore which means that they're actually worth your time now.

So did Isabeau fall in love with Flynn?

Thank god, that was such fucking bullshit in SMT4, I don't think I ever managed to fight them all because of that very reason, how are they now?

Because he's got a gun. Also, all the demon bitches love him.

SMTIV is my favorite SMT and favorite RPG of all time so I'm pretty excited.

Hope it lives up to it's predecessor.

All the Devil Summoner protags are smug.

all in an optional dungeon

The theme about escapism is also really nice, made me really interested in Hacker as a character in terms of what his motivations and future are. They go out of the way to establish he's gotta be into escapism to have joined the Spookies, like everyone else was, and gets this fantastically unique life of a summoner by chance. But then through vision quests and warnings and enemy summoners, he's shown that'll only lead to an early, anticlimactic death. At the same time, everyone else from his gang is splitting up realizing they need to stop avoiding life, so while everyone around him is dying, his friends are leaving him and he has less reason than ever to go back to a normal life. He has such a good reason to get stuck in that time loop.

I've finally gotten round to playing smt iv and have gotten to the point where I have to either kill lilith or help walter after the talk with the angels (their designs in this are absolutely terrible). If I kill Lilith and accidently end up with the law ending (trying to go for neutral), do I end up endorsing Tayama's actions in reverse roppongi? If so I'll just help walter and hope I still can get neutral as the shit Tayama (and Mastema) did is not something I could allow.

This: . Being in the James Bond pose also helps.

And, of couse, the manliest of them all.

I can't even tell what your argument is anymore. You're so hung up on pretending Nanashi is a girl, you've completely abandoned any other argument on his design being bad or looking like Dante from DmC (who isn't effeminate either). You just want to throw shallow criticisms out that can't even be backed up.

whats going on in this thread?

Multi demon summoner drifting

No, killing Lilith does put you more towards Law, but Law ending doesn't endorse Tayama's actions.

Keep in mind, Tayama/Mastema kept three of the Archangels sealed in mortal bodies and kept prisoner to keep them from achieving their goals. They definitely aren't on the same side.

Tayama gets fucked over in every route but if you want to also fuck over Mastema go Law.

Hell, for all the memes people keep throwing towards Mastema he was the one who managed to stop the total annihilation of Tokyo by sealing the three stooges

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>Try not to feel bad

>Digital Devil Saga saga

Thanks, I wasn't sure due to the role Mastema played in strange journey in essentially turning Zelenin into the law advocate in the game.

Well, let's just boil it down to basics, I guess.
>Pointed chin, no jaw definition
>Tsurime
>Eyelash definition
To name but a couple of the most obvious things, but you cannot compare what you posted to .

And the funny thing is, we've been arguing over Kaneko all this time, but it's Masayuki who's the artist and character designer for Final. And he's perfectly capable of masculine character design like or pic related. Say what you like about Walter, but at least he doesn't have the sort of face you'd associate with an angsty anime heroine.

Nah, that's unsure. Based on the DLC, Mastema gets involved in sealing away Archangels well after the point Aquila had already been in Mikado.

If it weren't for Mastema in that timeline, they could have weeded out that Luxuror/Casualry system like they do in the main game, and been more satisfied with Mikado and just forgotten Tokyo.

Least, until the Black Samurai fucks with Mikado one way or another until they just say "fuck it" and finish off a genocide.

Doesn't Stephen give you Masakado's name?

From what I understand, Mastema sealing them away stopped the Tokyo the game takes place from turning into the Blasted Toyko as that version showed what the ultimate result of the rapture would entail

if only nanashi was rocking a mohawk instead of a faggy sidecut

His thing is following the will of God but on his own way without fucking humans completely, the 4 archangels are kind of shifty in how they go about it as we saw in SMT 2 and in DDS2 when they arrived there

>hey guys, a meme user that dislikes the new entry into a series he used to like

So what is going on with hoy's chest?

Unfortunately they are also somewhat nerfed (not all end game level either), but they are much more accessible now.

I also hated the fiend hunt so fucking much but I was somehow autistic enough to get all of them.

That might've helped some.

A Mohawk is in the game as headgear I think.

Oh I tried hunting them using the dlc trick but I gave up after going on a hunt for three fucking hours with nothing to show for it

Nah, what stopped that is the Dome, which was from Masakados. Mastema did his thing some hundreds of years later (though only a few years later in Tokyo).

More than anything, it's just to fuck over Archangels' plans, because like hell Mastema's going to let YHVH see some other angels plans succeed instead of his.

Eh, that gets into trying too hard. Especially on a kid.

Don't get the hate on the sidecut though, given he doesn't even do it both sides. Like it's certainly not a fauxhawk.

>fusion in persona 4
>retry 1 billion times until you get the skills you want passed down
>those (potentially hours) of retrying is all made meaningless once you get Trumpeter and Yoshitsune

Is that what you call "no problems"? Get fucked OP.

And even Devil Survivor (1) had the problem of too few demons to fuse, with unique demons that you can only have one of exacerbating the problem.