Super Smash Brothers Melee for the Nintendo Gamecube

Yes I know this thread is just gonna die, I just wanna talk about some Melee

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roy is better than marth

bowser is best heavy

mario is OP

zelda is the superior form

>PPMD won't be back until November at the earliest.

So who do you faggots main and why?

L-canceling is fun but it's just bad game design. I like how rivals of aether removed it and made aerials just low lag without it

We're talking about Melee here, not PM.
Falco, because I like pushing buttons.

removing l canceling is buffing fox

How do you recover as Dr. Mario vs. Fox in Super Smash Bros Melee for the Nintendo Gamecube?

Melee is dead without Dr. PeePeeMD

LRAStart

Choose a viable character

>their smile and optimism: gone

>drill now has 18 frames of lag
Nope thats definetly a nerf. Marth, Sheik, Peach, and Puff would barely be effected, on the other hand.
Unless you just mean letting everything l-cancel automatically, then I guess so. I agree with the other user though, it just becomes muscle memory after a while. Its not a tactical option and its not that hard to execute.

Rivals made it so everything autocancels except for a select few moves that would be too spammable and mindless without lag.

He's not wrong
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All the crazy low tier recoveries I've seen seem to involve walljumping after a tech, so practice that I guess.
Or just play a not shit character.

Even in P:M those are shit opinions.

3.5 Zelda absolutely killed all momentum for the character and lots of people dropped despite zhime and a lot of other top zelda's plea not to change her.
I like PPMD but he is not the is all, end all player that you all hype him up to be especally since mango has recently started to shed his buster skin and has collected 6 of the dragonballs. Also fun fact Kevin Nanney is a legitimate cuck, and thats not a insult either its just his hot porn girlfriend took like 32 black cocks on film.

Marth because I have the most fun playing him.
Falco because I am legally obligated to play a spacie.

you cant tech shine

>L-canceling is fun but it's just bad game design
>fun but it's just bad game design
>fun
>bad game design

Listen to yourself talk. Wheter it's a tactical choice or not, it's satisfying, and that's the point of game mechanics.

That said I think the window should be the same as teching.

Marth is having a comeback. We need PP to be there.

Was 3.5 when they got rid of the retarded 3 Dins Fire at once and replaced it with the single big one?

Fuck off, us Falcos need PP more.

Marth. He hurts my hands so I could never take a spacie. Also, I love his neutral.

Fox because he's really fun. I feel like I won't get much better with him, tech-wise, since I play with tap up to jump so doing anything besides shine>wavedash is really hard.
I guess that's why I've been leaning more towards Sheik and Peach nowadays.

They where clankable and a lot of characters could just ledge dash through them. God knows most characters had insane recoveries in P:M so they where "just ok" for ledge guarding.

Falcos need nothing more than their grape soda, watermelon, and welfare checks.

Your character is dropping down the tier list like a rock, deal with it.

Alright guys I'm ranked on my state PR but in friendlies and money matches I constantly beat the 6 above me. My problem is in tourney I play nervous and and generally can't perform tech let alone pivots. Any advice?

It's literally because all of the top Falcos are fucking memes, PPMD plays Falco the way he's supposed to be played. He basically dominated the floaty matchup in his prime. PP just needs to update his tech skill and he'll be the top Flaco for sure.

Oh yeah i know it's satisfying, but balance-wise there's no reason not to do it in high-level play, which makes it pointless.

Also halfway through the teching window the animation would already be over but I see what you mean

Oh also Marth, Fox, Puff main. Yes ranked with 3 character and a couple of secondaries

I like the idea of L-cancelling, its sort of a straight "mechanical skill = speed" conversion. One of my favorite things about Melee is how much the game changes when you start to get good, and learning to L-cancel is part of that, and the better you get at it the faster you can go.
It just needs a higher skill ceiling, ideally without really raising the skill floor, so its more of a smooth progression, and maybe some kind of tradeoff so it isn't just always beneficial to do.

You've gotta MM to solidify those nerves

That's literally every up and coming players problem. The secret is literally just your attitude, inside and outside the game. You need to get to know yourself and gain confidence Sfat finally came over this and now he could probably be number 6 by the end of the year if he continues being this consistent.

I do but it feels easy then in tourney I play bad and everyone even stream watchers are confused because of how the mm looked and how I looked in tourney

I try to stay confident and play "lame" like my style wants but I just can't beat the emotions. Do diets and water help?

1. Are you playing differently or are they? It's possible that you're making the same mistakes in friendlies but in tournament people are just punishing you harder/making less mistakes themselves.

2. If you're really just making tech flubs then you're probably just nervous. You're probably letting the pressure of playing in a tournament/MM get to you. If you're losing to people you know you should beat that can really get you out of your zone. Head on down to the freest local in your state some time and enter and try to just play to have fun. Once you get into your same friendlies groove in a tournament you'll probably do just fine.

I dunno, maybe? Probably? Dude, if you're trying to change your diet for smash you're probably overthinking something.

That's probably the root of your problem. Relax and body some scrubs.

what is the appeal in a 15 year old game

It's fun

So I feel like I've mastered the basics of Falco. What are the chances of my not going 0-2 at my first local? I feel pretty confident in my tech skill and reaction time and have beat a lot of scrubs on netplay with faster melee. I'm not a balls to the wall Falco either. I just like moving around a lot with him.

I dunno, what's the appeal in a brand new game? That's a fucking stupid question.

If you're asking why people still play Melee over newer smash games, it's because Melee is faster/deeper. The game is just flat out faster, and there's movement options like wavedashing that were just flat out removed in the later games. Playing Melee with even an intro level of tech skill is like playing Quake with a crapton of bunnyhops and rocket jumps. Later games don't have anything close to that feeling.

sheik
I love her sick platform movement that I can barely do

Only one way to find out.

Well fuck, any tips on not looking like a total autist?

Really got into melee for a while but with my new job and the days most locals happen I can't really play anymore. That and evo really sucked the air out of the room with a puff win. Lots of puffs and IC on the come up and while I respect that and the fact they play to win, I do think they are generally Un fun to play against and are bad for the game as far as growth and spectators are concerned.

I stopped giving a shit aND things have been pretty good. I'll randomly boot up 20xx and practice some frame perfect ledgedashes then turn it off.

Rip.

PP will never be back, his low test has killed him. 2015 was his last year on top, even if her returns he probably won't even be making top 8's anymore.

However I am picking up Falco and Marth to avenge him.

Falco is very easy to play and very strong. You need to think though. If you auto pilot you will scrub out.

And it's not a big deal if you go 0-2, especially if you got a lot of great players.

I tend to go 2-2 but it's hard to make it in winners when your opponents are like ghatzu and plup and Colbol. CFL is rough.

Don't be a fucking weirdo. Just come and have fun playing video games. That's what everyone is there for.

The only actual autists I've seen are the thirsty nerds who will act creepy as fuck or like an asshole towards the one girl who showed up to the tourney. Without fail, if a girl shows up, there's some creepy guy who follows her to every friendlies set up. Either that or there's some asshole that goes full redpill on the bitch in public. Just play videogames like a normal fucking person.

>Falcos need nothing more than their grape soda, watermelon, and welfare checks.

Reminder that the Falco is a nigger character is a locals meme.

All the top Falcos are basically every race but black.

>tfw wanted to sign up for Big House and make a trip for it but you have to have competed in at least 3 SmashGG tournies and there's literally zero any tournies at all within 10 hours of me

puff, my fingers arent fast enough for anything else

Thanks alot homies.

It switches between Puff, Marth, and Falco, with Puff getting the most love.

Okay, which of you faggot was this.

I have never experienced this and the PR'd players in my (very small) region even bring their girlfriends to tournaments occasionally and they at least play okay

anyone who doesn't just play one character and tries to "main" like 3 characters is a fucking retard. just because you see mango/m2k do it doesn't mean you should do it when you're not even fucking PR'd in a region with like 20 active players

you realize that comes from back when the top Falco players were mostly black right

Yes so now it should be a dead meme.

As with all things black people do, white people went and did it better.

Marth because his neutral is fun
Pikachu because up-air is sex and I suck at marth vs falcon

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show up smelling nice
and don't wear some shitty smash related clothing
just show up in jeans and a hoodie like everyone else
then just say gg after the game and don't spout your opinions about the game because they're wrong you fucking noober

Okay, I'm 90 percent sure I dress and smell better than most smashers anyways. I have a button up shirt with little foxes all over so I think I'll just wear that. Amd no it's not furry tier weird.

that sounds super cute

Do you hate fun?

Its actually baller as fuck, it was a steal for like 10 bucks.

You could just message juggleguy and explain your situation, he's a nazi when it comes to brackets but he's understanding otherwise

>you have to have competed in at least 3 SmashGG tournies
The hell? Why?