Is there a single multiplayer FPS where shotguns aren't garbage?

Is there a single multiplayer FPS where shotguns aren't garbage?

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Doom with any mods, especially brutal doom

Firing from the hip with anything in insurgency turns a tackdriver into a noisemaker

I think he wanted something that isn't deader than dead.

Gears of war

beat me to it with Doom, Quake and TF2 (some) come to mind as well

>fps

wew

There has never - ever - been a videogame that does not have one or more of the following in regards to guns:

>made up reload animations
>excessive smoke effects
>tracer rounds
>extremely low velocity bullets
>weak firing sound effects/random clicking and clacking when touching a gun
>weapons with a tenth of the range of their actual range
>restricted rate of fire with semi-auto handguns

Prove me wrong.

Protip: you can't.

The shotguns in Rainbow Six Siege were so strong they had to nerf them, but they're still crazy good if you play aggressively

L4d2

Soldier of Fortune 2.

lag

>flashlight
>red dot sight
>sight but hipfiring anyways
>raiding a point with no grenades
>not leaning around the doorframe

Payday 2

Battlefield.

Fullchoke + Flechette = sniping with shotguns. And then you cold actually snipe with a high powered scope and slugs if you're feeling mad.

Payday 2 probably has the most satisfying shotguns ever. Spec em' right and see whole halls of cops dying with a single shell of your sawn off. Or slap in a flechette shell and be able to countersnipe if you're good.

How it works is unrealistic as hell, but damn they're fun.

I haven't played since the Deathwish update but I remember turning the automatic shotgun into a beast with the right skills, it was hilarious. 20+ bullets, full auto, good range and endless ammo

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Granted the bullet path is visible, but it isn't as bad as some other games have it. At least that's what I'm assuming you mean with tracer rounds.

Rising Storm. Stop asking that.

Modern Warfare 2
Modern Warfare 3 after a few updates

Red Orchestra 2, although firing sound effects are a tad weak.

BF4 has REALLY balanced shotguns now.

I love my 870 CMS.

TF2's shotguns are great

fird person shooter what's the problem?

Leanining is Insurgency is shit. and going full run&gun is easier than pretending to be tacticool

Oh this thread again

Edgy. Does the game have Papa Roach songs as it's soundtrack as well?

What other forums are usable?

I just aggressively pie corners down sight. Tends to do better than leaning, at least.

scattergun is so good
i want to shove both barrels into my tight virgin boi pucci

This is true of all "tactical" shooters.
Elite operator wannabes try and play it all slow and "hardcore" and get shat on by somebody who bothers to learn what actually works in the game, which is almost always going fast and snap-shooting.

Shotguns aren't fucking magic like in the movies. You still need to aim them to hit what you're shooting at.
Shotguns in siege are insanely good on defensive roamers. Just place some barbed wire in a corridor and sit in an adjacent room. Guaranteed at least one kill.

There is no red dot sight in that webm. You can't even put a reddot and a flashlight on the same gun.

The flashlight is mandatory on all close range weapons because it semi-blinds enemies.

I want to love Insurgency but the balancing is retarded.
>Different types of armor but it doesn't matter because AP ammo will kill anyone in one shot anywhere but the legs
>HP ammo is literally worse than regular ammo
>no matter what you're wearing explosives will kill you through a wall at a distance
>team respawn points are in RPG kill zones

Rainbow Six Siege, before the semi auto ones were nerfed. Certain pump shotguns are good though.

E.Y.E had great shotguns.

Insurgency is what happens if you take the most hated mechanics from other games and make an entire standalone game from them:

>camping
>grenade spam

Inssurgency also has a problem which makes it nigh unrunnable on pascal GPUs. On my 1080 & 6700k it runs at 100 FPS maximum, at 1080p. Google this for more info, everyone with a 10-series card gets it.

Yes.

STALKER

The only thing that bothers me with PD2's shotguns is that the primary pump actions are fucking worthless. The Raven is decent for a suppressed stealth build to move bodies when killing people, but that's about all it's useful for. I never find myself using the Reinfield or Raven over the Mosconi, Joceline or Breaker when going loud.

Then again I haven't played since the biker DLC released so maybe they have buffed them since then.

man, i wish the pc community for this was still alive. if you find a match it's with a modder/hacker. All they had to do was make it server based. fuck man.

Nothing like methodically clearing a bunker full of Duty/Mutants, walking at a stroll's pace and snapshooting buckshot into their heads.

THE KING

Unreal tournament was one of my favorite games back then, even more so when i discovered the custom multiplayer maps

Overkill plus Silent Killer made them reach the 160 threshold. Add Flechette for penetration and you have a tan-one-chest-shot killer. The fact that you can cancel the Rein's reloading animation by shooting makes them extremely versatile when running side to side.

They fail when it comes to burning down dozers due to the lower firerate, but will make short work of everything else.

BC2 especially with slugs

MW2

The reason shotguns are always balanced the way they are is because at the range of pretty much every shooter under battlefield in size they would absolutely dominate. Shooter map size isn't the optimal size for long range weapons or even midrange weapons but they have to have them in there to appease everyone.

They shouldn't even be in the game if that's the case.

only 1/10 games i find are hacked on a bad day

hackers are bit more common

Titanfall 2's shotgun worked pretty well because you're able to get up on people so quickly. I had a shit ton of fun with it.

Then people will complain that there aren't any shotguns.

I think there's actually modded server browser.
And anyway, PS3 version has it way worse with cheaters.

>game has an AA-12
>nerfed to hell

You can play DOOM II multiplayer

Unless it's Killing Floor.

>game lets you akimbo AA-12

The truly GOAT shotguns in games are those with modular ammo that has different effects. Flame rounds, bolo rounds, confetti rounds, etc.

>game has dragons breath rounds

>it was nerfed to hell because the engine couldn't handle the small possibility of 18 or so people firing it at once

>CHEATING or RACISM = BAN and NEVER lifted! You've been warned

In response, Black Ops 1 had fucking terrible shotguns.

fucking this
>game forces you to use stand alone single shot grenade launcher as a primary weapon, and you can only have pistols as a side arm
>your only allowed to have HE rounds

Space Station 13's various codebases have great shotguns, most of which have modular ammo

>Leanining is Insurgency is shit
mfw it used to be great but then they changed it and now it's the worst

legit one of the reasons I stopped playing

Only people still playing it are russians anyway.
>some servers still have killfeed on and they always have full people

Rainbow six VEGAS
When you attached a scope, one of the pellets always hit in the middle
You were able to snipe anyone as long as you shoot at their head with a shotgun

Cheats are really really common in Insurgency now. All the CSGO cheats which get patched in CSGO are second-handed to Insurgency, which has practically no anticheat besides useless VAC.

You can go on any 32 player server, spend 5mins speccing various people, and are near guaranteed to find someone blatantly walling.

>M26 mass in BF3 and BF4

so many kills with it

I'll admit that the Stakeout was a pile of shit, and the HS-10 was only usable with the dual wield option, but the Olympia and SPAS-12 (especially with a suppressor) were by no means terrible.

Shotties in Rainbow Six Siege fucking melt people, even after nerfs.

The shotguns in Neotokyo kick absolute ass.
The basic pump model can easily one-hit-kill every class, and the automatic one is an absolute monster since it has an insane ROF and magazine size for how much damage it does and how much range it has.

Shotguns in Neotoyko are also all effective up to ~50 meters, the AA13 can be effective up to 75 meters if you just keep firing.

The shotgun mods for Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory were also great, often a one/two-hit-kill at decent range.

In terms of non-shotgun shotguns, the Meltagun from Space Marine was also pretty fun.

I've had the most amount of success in Insurgency blitzing at full speed with a full auto-armor-piercing AK47\FAL

Planet side 1 had good shot guns. Fastest killing weapon in the game. You'll never get to play it.

Halo?

The slugs are fun if you can actually aim with them. What would happen to me is I'd load a slug for a long range combat, and then some fucking rekkin probably Snilah would jump out of nowhere and some how I'd blast him after wasting a slug on trying to hit him.

if the enemy has some kind of ballistic armour, wouldn't the shotgun pellets be ineffective against it? Except his face, of course

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No its just the shotgun hit detection in Insurgency is broken and always has been broken. It's like 50/50 chance if your shot actually registers or not, I don't know why its so broken.

>miss twice at close range
>WTF SHITTY GAME FUCK THIS GAY EARTH

if you take a shotgun blast to the chest at that range irl you're going down, at least temporarily, even if you're in l4 body armor. it's just a lot of kinetic energy put into your chest.

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And yet they're all shit and immediately ditched in favor of a taser or any other projectile weapon

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>Killing Floor
>AA-12

I mean real life
there's no video game that if the opponent is wearing a body armour, the shotgun blast from several meters away will maybe knock him down but will not kill him
same goes with the small caliber handguns
Handguns and shtoguns would be very effective agains unarmoured enemies
this
someday maybe a video game will make this

>good ol days of running around with akimbo models
fuckin hell

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Least insurgency still has juicy skins

Don't worry they'll make support useless again in the future

this nigga knows

Least I can say this since I'm almost always a recon scrub: There's nothing more terrifying than popping around a corner and seeing an Assault and/or Support with a shotgun right on the other side.

There's also nothing more satisfying than popping them with your own shotgun first.

When I played, I was almost always Assault, but I played recon more than support, fucking recons with shotguns is my nightmare, it's bad enough trying to hit them at close range with the shotgun (In NT the shotgun works better at medium range for me than at close range) never mind if they've got one of their own.

I'd rather have the ability to eject the slug and catch it, certainly a cyborg with a motion sensor would be able to catch an ejected shotgun shell? Especially if it wasn't fired?

I think slugs would be a whole lot better if they had their damage adjusted. They do ~45-55 damage to Supports and Assaults, to but only ~40 to Recons.

The devs rationalized it as the slug over-penetrating and going right through the Recon without doing much real damage, but it really sucks balance-wise.

NT shotgun is also affected hard by lag and packet loss, making some shots just outright fail to register entirely.
On a laggy server, it's a gamble whether your shotgun will destroy someone in a single hit or be loaded with confetti.

I feel you though on the ability to eject a slug. When they only give you three of the fucking things to begin with it would be nice if you could use them when you wanted.

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5 star post.

Yeah with servers and all it can be a pain to do any damage to anyone if they're moving fast enough.

neotokyo a best

who THEU FCK even plays about this game stupid UFCIKS was it you you dumb gay boy