HDR

Is HDR the next thing Sup Forums is going to pretend isn't a big deal when it actually is?

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I have an HDR TV. It's not a big deal. We had it on PC for a decade.

half life 2 did HDR in 2008

literally isn't a big deal. fuck off loser.

Havent seen it in games but in films its very nice if its done right.

>TV manufacturers figure out how to make displays that can do proper contrast
>they try to turn it into a marketing perk

Haha, the TV market is going to die soon.

The only HDR I understand is taking a photo of different exposures and putting them together.

>Not knowing the difference between an hdr effect in a game and panel

Kys, valve faggot

Ah okay thanks. So the answer is yes.

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it also looks horrible in most cases

Its pretty good but its not a big thing normies don't understand quality outside of MOAR PIXELS

What HDR films do you have? I have 13 on disc.

>actually trusting TV companies
>the people who make edge-lit panels with 60hz refresh rate, no DisplayPort, and sell it as high end tech

I just make them in lightroom

>Is HDR the next BUZZWORD Sup Forums is going to pretend isn't a big SHIT when it actually is?
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You people have no idea what HDR is. Here are the key details:

>Very high brightness
>Very dark black levels
>10-bit color

And yep Sup Forums will shitpost and pretend HDR is somehow bad.

where the fuck did it come out from?

it literally didn't exist before yesterday

Pathetic, dont talk about things you know fuxk all about.

If it was a big deal then how did we saw the "benefits demo" on our own non hdr screens at home?

Because guess what? Its just a color configuration, probably more contrast and saturation. Its not a new wonder.

And considering the ps4 regular is getting it (and it shouldnt be able to since hdmi 1.4 doesnt allow it) Im almost 99% is just a preset that exagerates color. Not hdr.

I will state that normal , conventional PC computer monitors still have far superior contrast and colors than absolutely any TV on the market.
And in addition to that, superior refresh rates.
As well as better power efficiency.
And proper backlighting.

TVs = shit.

>PC computer monitors

*IPS computer monitors

developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/HDR

>In fact Source does not even create 'proper' HDR images: instead it collapses the image down to LDR early.

I don't even know who's being contrarian anymore

Non hdr = 40% of the colour spectrum eyes can see
Hdr = 80% of the colour spectrum eyes can see
Eyes= 100% of colour spectrum eyes can see

So what you're saying is that screens should be made out of human eyes?

You forgot
>Any computer monitor that's not complete garbage: 100% of color spectrum eyes can see

Why would you waste time making a sub 30" TV power efficient when people don't buy those anymore.

I can't believe people don't see this yet, all my family members part of the next generation literally never watch TV. IOT, cloud streaming subscriptions and portable/handheld displays is where things are headed. People in my gen think that the future is still being built for them delusional faggots

if it's something people are talking about in a positive fashion, then yes.

Literally nothing to do with display HDR. They just happen to share a name.
It's just like thinking chips are the same thing in the US and in the UK.

>Haha, the TV market is going to die soon.
This might be the dumbest thing I've ever read on Sup Forums. Good job.

Ignore people talking about it being a decade old.
People itt don't understand there are different hdr versions and whatnot, and monitor support is a thing.
Anyway it's pretty dank.
On it's own idk but 4k on it's own is also idk.
So i feel like 4k, OLED, and HDR together seem like a worthy upgrade to me.
Might start actually occasionally gaming on my TV as well.

Yes it did. I've been looking at new TVs for the last year or so, and somewhere around November of last year I started seeing HDR as a bullet point.

I haven't been following the technology. So the HDR demonstrated for the Sony meeting isn't something limited to the Playstation console right? I mean any PC or Xbox can play HDR content, provided you have a HDR capable display right?

I don't even know what it is. I know the words but honestly it doesn't look all that different.

To me we still need to work on basic sharpness. Play something like XCX on a 45"+ screen and you'll want to vomit. Getting colors better won't fix that. And that applies even to most PC games. Things like animations and texture quality are still pretty shit.

Plus we haven't murdered chromatic aberration yet, and as long as that exists we can't lose focus.

Do you not eat food together or something?

How is that related?

God, so many people on Sup Forums are fucking cretins.

HDR is not just 10-bit color, it's much higher brightness than pretty much any other type of display.

>b-but muh IPS

Your IPS is shit and outdated buddy. The unbiased and objective gods of technology at Digital Foundry have seen HDR in person and said it's fucking amazing. You're wrong if you don't like it.

wait, your family all watch things on tablets?

Are you hispanic, by any chance?

Yes

I swear we have had this for like ten years and its not really been that big of a deal.

No, white master race

It seems to be literally the same thing.

Yes

>I know the words but honestly it doesn't look all that different.
Let me guess, you're saying it doesn't look different because on your non-HDR screen that you watched the Sony meeting on, you didn't notice any difference, right?

The fuck does HDR have to do with IPS?

You don't eat in a room with a television?

Monitors as a whole don't have all that much time left, but TVs will die sooner than that. There's no point.

If it supports HDMI 2.0 it can be updated to work with HDR capable displays.

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I don't have it turned on, no.

oh, so your family is just retarded, ok. Spics at least have the excuse of using stolen merchandise to get their entertainment. I bet your family also thinks their 8" 720p tablet has a better picture than most TVs too, don't they?

I don't think my 2013 1080p TV supports it so I don't give a fuck either way.

I've seen HDR in person too.

You know, on my HDR-compliant 4k TV.

It's not better than my Dell P2715Q. Almost as good, maybe, but not better. Especially not the brightness.

How about 9XX, 10XX generation GPUs?

>there's no point
How do you figure? Do you think everyone is going to watch movies on their phones in the future? Because you're wrong, if that's the case.

They just don't watch TV, I still do, I watch sports and a couple of mainstream shows live but the little ones don't give a fuck. It's all YouTube, social networks and mobile gaming

calibrate your TV properly, you clod. They come from the factory set to look good in a bright, fluorescent-lit store, not your house.

HDR is not dependent on display type in the first place.
It's like local dimming. It is a change in the backlighting, not in the LCDs themselves.

its essentially a higher contrast ratio. which means nothing unless you have an OLED, and OLEDs are still pretty experimental

>hurr if you don't have a 72" HDR TV in every room of your house, you're only option of watching movies is your phone

I was under the impression that it was intended to give LCD screens contrast similar to OLED screens.

Yeah, monitors and tvs are gonna die any day now.

Fucking kek

What exactly is the other option? Your tablet?

You won't come across many monitors in 2030, idiot. Much less TVs.

Those already support HDR.
It does depend on the content itself too and fucking nothing has HDR yet.

The answer to everything regarding electronics. PC

>We had it on PC for a decade.
No you didn't, sure there were monitors that supported wider gamuts like the old 10-bit IPS LG panels used in Dell and Apple 27" displays, but your games weren't mastered for the wider gamut.

No, it is a change in the backlighting. Has literally nothing to do with oled. LCD types determine the color gamut, not the contrast ratio.

you cant magically make a screen better than it is. LCD screens have backlights, so you will never get true blacks.

youtube.com/watch?v=N8vebnBuhrQ

If you think that there won't be a projector hybrid device in the next few years that makes this simple solution no viable, you're deluding yourself. Smartphones are getting brighter and brighter.

What the fuck are you on about? People are just going to start buying 25" monitors for their living rooms?

Because everyone uses their PC for movies. Honest question here: Are you high?

Instead of one washed out shitty backlight strip, each zone has an individual light that can be turned to different brightness. It's local dimming on steroids.

the change in black light allows deeper contract ratio.aka the difference between the blackest black and the whitest white

They already tried this you retard. Noone wanted it.

That isn't at all what HDR is. But good try.

Monitors will be GONE in as little as ten years.

As soon as we can fit an 8K screen on something the size of a phone VR headsets will fully replace monitors for all applications. Why waste $1500+ on a 3 monitor 144hz IPS setup when you could spend $500-1000 on one HMD and emulate as many virtual monitors as you could ever need? Want a Lain esque grid of 3x3 huge ass monitors above your desk? VR headset

Carmack was also talking about the sheer power efficiency, monitors/TVs spray photons all over the fucking room compared to a headset which is only putting out a small amt of light directly into your eyes more or less

Name one video playback device better than PC.

>they didn't want it now, so they'll never want it.

>Monitors will be GONE in as little as ten years.
el oh el

which still looks like ass compared to OLED or plasma

>living rooms
There will be no such thing.

t. cucks who have never heard of XMBC. Sad!

Literally anything hooked up to a TV and a surround sound system and not a fucking monitor that is made for displaying crisp text over anything else.

It's not, HDR referring to TV is the rec.2020 color space with certain contrast ratio and brightness requirements

>this faggot hasn't tried Microsoft HoloLens yet

Must be horrible working at a low-tier shit company.

I'm in the industry. I work from home as a Vive dev. You're a nobody :)

Yes it is. I bet you're retarded enough to think it refers to the photography process.

Yup

Wrong, PC does video playback much better than that trash.

I know what XMBC is, trumpette. The fact is that only a small niche of people will want to bother with something like that. Simplicity is the key to mass market appeal, and no matter what you do a PC will never be as simple as putting a disc in a player and hitting play, or opening a Netflix app that is already built into a TV and watching something.

Photography HDR shows greater dynamic range, HDR on TV shows greater dynamic range. Its the same thing.

How do you know what it looks like when practically nothing supports it yet?

Confirmed for not knowing what HDR is

human eye can't see more than 3 colors

>I work from home as a Vive dev
So you're not biased obviously

> The average user would be hard pressed to tell the difference however, and the benefits include support for all DX9 GPUs, MSAA compatibility, and excellent performance.

I am willing to bet that the new consoles' HDR isn't "Proper" HDR either

>this is what suckers desperatly force themselves to believe in an attempt to justify buying into dead end VR

please, do go on.