Is project M worth giving a try?

Is project M worth giving a try?

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Also invested interest in this bread.

I really like it. Maybe even a little bit more than Melee.

Yes, solely on the fact that it's a competent fighting game made by a community instead of a corporation.

Yes. I personally don't see a reason to play vanilla Brawl with mods like this.

I don't really play on a competitive level (just stock FFAs with friends) but we downloaded project M before smash 4 was released and had a lot of fun with it. The changes made to characters made them really enjoyable to use and rediscover.

Items generally work but some are a little wonky (stopwatch gives you absurd space jumps), and Trainer's pokemon never got Final Smash attacks so they're at a disadvantage there. If you don't mind that then that's hardly a minus.

It is if you have a local scene, otherwise no because it's pretty much underground due to Twitch and Nintendo shutting it down.

It's dying but objectively the best game in the series

If you want Melee, play Melee. If you want improved Brawl, play Smash 4.

Basically Nintendo got jealous of them and shut them down because it's what majority of the community wanted

If you're used to Sm4sh then PM can feel pretty stiff, but no where near as bad as Melee does if you switch between Melee and Sm4sh.

If you're used to Melee you've probably already played PM.

It's still good though.

Get Legacy, it's M plus a shitton of new costumes and stages and options

There's fucking metal Lucario, Dry Bowser, Mewtwo with metal armor and shadow mewtwo, Mega Charizard, the list goes on

Very very fun. Completely outclasses Brawl, Smash 4, and even Melee.

You really have to sit down and play it with another human bean to discover how good it is. That's why a lot of people here preemptively bash it.

A lot of people in general react very weirdly to something if it's freeware, but they love something not-free turned free, like a free soda or something. I guess years of conditioning does that.

Implying that PM is a smash game, then it would be the funnest one casually speaking.

Just don't get too competitive on it, characters are horribly designed in terms of balance. For competitiveness play melee instead.

the idea of buffing characters so they're as OP as fox/falco/marth is dumb

It's a bit easier in terms of tech. For example, wavedashing is much easier to do. It's also extremely varied, since every character has the tools to do well. Unfortunately, this also makes the meta unstable and unpredictable. You can practice all you want, only to get bodied by some rando character whose MU you're not familiar with, while they just abuse their most powerful options.

Obviously some of these issues would've been resolved if the meta got more time/focus.

If you like playing Sheik in Melee, and adding in jank that makes no sense that you only learn when fighting a person who knows the jank, well this jank is for you. PM is proof that the smash community has no idea what their doing.

It was fun 2-3 years ago but now it's dead.

>OP

They're not OP, the other characters were just incredibly underwhelming. PM was fun because it buffed everyone to be as strong as the Melee top tiers, while keeping what made them all fun (except for a few like Lucas and Lucario).

Best thing that came out of PM was hax telling M2K that PM sucked and that he wished it would die.

You could try Smash Legacy XP Beta. It's insane and has alot of awesome add-ons.
youtube.com/watch?v=9S9JAtGTLt8

this, enough content for variety without going full retard with skins and meme levels

>PM was fun because it buffed everyone to be as strong as the Melee top tiers
no, they just took any character they had no idea what to do with and turned them into Sheik. Hope you like having braindead characters that anyone could learn in one hour.

>HAI GUIZ LOOK AT DIS SKIN FOR ROY, ITS THAT ONE GUY FROM GURREN LAGENN

I wish I knew how to install characters into Homebrew 3.6.

It's fun, but at the end of the day, it is a janky fan game.

I'd play it over Brawl for competitive reasons, but it's not better than Melee, and Sm4sh and Brawl are all around better for the party game aspect.

they had splatoon skins in the last version but removed them, can't see why they wouldn't do it again

Wait this shit is out?

>playing against CPU
>it launches you up
>it keeps running left and right extremely fast in the same spot

Yes

It looks like the latest version removed a lot of skins and stick a little closer to what PM already added and only kept some of the more sensible extras while giving some more colors to the other alt costumes.

It's pretty fun, but for me, it's worth it to play their version of Roy. The way they made him just feels like playing pure sex, it's almost as if the character was made for me. Never had a click like that with any other Smash character.

Though it may be the novelty of playing a both fast and strong swordsman who isn't all about the pussy shit that sword guys in Sm4sh are like.

Same, but with Ivysaur.

They forgot the Fox/Falco/Marth/Shiek etc meta took over 10 years to develop

ROB and G&W are fucking braindead

My nigga.

Very fun, especially casually if you wanna play "competitively" casually with your mates. Everybody is broken and has gimmicks, but I think that shit makes a great time and a really exciting game to watch, so yeah, try it.

You're kinda hoping on the wagon super late now though, pre-smash 4 release hype cycle this game was the absolute motherfucking shit community wise. Watching the development and getting hype for patches was an experience.

These days I'd recommend downloading some super mod pack with all sorts of shit in it as opposed to the base build. Brawl modding is pretty much dead, so there are amazing packs out there that have pretty much everything worth a shit to ever come out of the scene in them like the one's mentioned in the thread already. Personally, I'd recommend anything that includes the Waluigi mod cause it's amazing.

Fuck, typing this post made me realize how much I miss this game and brawl modding in general's glory days.

what if I want to play improved melee?

Then you're out of luck since no such thing exists.

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Well hey, Smash 4 modding is evolving really fast. Don't feel too bad, user.

I like to try all kinds of Smashes, but Project M was really good for what it was. It's actually fairly polished compared to many other fan mods and it just feels better to play than Sm4sh. The stage edits are nice to play on and the originals are still there in 3.6 if you miss them (with the exception of 75m and Mario Bros but who the fuck misses those)

That said, there's also modpacks that add onto Project M with further content that can be enjoyable. I'll always recommend Legacy since it's mostly really good shit aside from maybe a few weird inclusions.
>tfw want to play XP's beta but only have a Wii U to play on and Hackless doesn't seem to work for it

Just tried it my controller doesn't work on it. No idea why

it's the best smash imo but I never practice it because nobody here fucking plays it

if you're in an area with an active PM scene by all means learn that shit. game is an absolute blast.

People still care about this? I thought it fell off the map after the creators disowned it.

we should start a gang

I mean, I kinda liked checking it out. It's alright, but they made some unnecessary move set changes to a few characters.

>nobody here

You talking about where you live or Sup Forums? Why would you want to play with Sup Forums?

it's the funnest smash game to play casually

Speaking of PM anyone wanna fuck aroudn for a bit on netplay

where I live

lots of sm4sh and some melee around here. i play both because there's no point in learning pm or skrillgrills when there's no one to play it with

it's a fucking autistic trainwreck made by egotistical faggots who have the gall to call themselves "developers" making a "game"

there is nothing redeeming about it and it died for a reason so stay the fuck away from it

just play melee or street fighter or something

You're an autistic trainwreck.

Pretty sure Anthers' is a decent enough place, though it's been a while since I've checked.

Nobody likes you, Warchamp Everyone thinks you're a tool.

>no, they just took any character they had no idea what to do with and turned them into Sheik.

Agreed. I'm particularly disgusted with Mewtwo. In melee, solid Mewtwo play is highly creative and carefully defensive, while P:M Mewtwo is *teleports behind you* the character. He deserved to be buffed, but turning everyone into an aggressive monster is just silly.

When everyone is rushdown, no one will be.

>it died for a reason
because gimr killed it for nintendo money

HOW THE FUCK DO I GET THIS LEGACYXP THING TO WORK

>let's make Falco closer to being a Fox clone again
>now let's completely change Lucas

>le gimr killed pm
You sad fucks are always good for a laugh.
The PMDT killed PM themselves.

Melee Falco>Brawl Falco
Anybody who actually plays melee knows just how different they actually play.

>not being able to read teleports and punish to the point where they're risky
yr bad

What the fuck is a gimr? Is it an acronym? Does it stand for something?

Yeah, I agree, it just bugs me that they completely changed Lucas after doing that. He was already better than Ness in Brawl, so why the total revamp?

Yeah. Even if you don't play competitively (I don't, never have, not interested) it's still an improvement. Basic gameplay and move sets all feel better, I love all the new alt colors and costumes, some extra characters, SSE and classic mode are a lot more fun with better gameplay.

the changes are alright though, lucas is such an amazingly fun character in pm
nothing to complain about when they declone an unviable character and make him into something worth playing

I've played PM a bit. I didn't really find it too fun most of the time. Only Peach felt right to me.

>Nintendo shutting it down.

niceme.me

>it's what majority of the community wanted

LMAO! GTFO my board, beeyotch. It's for adults, not for delusional kids like you.

They didn't shut it down, it's mostly just the precedent. If Nintendo thinks the kind of people who play its games will willingly hack and pirate their games they may want nothing to do with the NA smash community, so they won't stream PM as they hope that Nintendo will one day grace them with melee.

there is a tutorial on the website

I don't particularly agree, but it's more that I just liked his original moveset so much more and I'm frustrated that there's no equivilent in PM. And don't say Ness because I can't fucking stand playing as Ness.

That doesn't make a lot of sense since Ness's moveset in Brawl is almost exactly Lucas's minus the snake grab/mega upsmash.

i did everything the readme said, and somehow first I was getting a blackscreen, now i'm past that and the words Legacy pop up, then it entirely crashes. I searched reddit too, no answers.

what version are you using?
You need an SD card and go to stage builder

This might be worthless info but used to own this old ass SD card i used to run the game and it crashed quite often, after switching for a new one it didn't even loaded until i restarted my wii without the sd card, opened the game, turned it off them applied the card back before turning it on again, it started working like a charm and it rarely freezes now

Why does Charizard have an armored alt? Why does the Samus's fusion suit not have 3 recolors for varia, gravity, and complete? Why is Zero Suit Samus still called Zero Suit Samus, instead of Armorless Samus? Why remove the King in King Dedede?

I say again, why remove the King in King Dedede? This is the absute worst change they've made, the only one I hate.

on PC buddy, dolphin build

How the hell can you understand Fox and Falco's differences in Melee, but then think Ness and Lucas are exactly the same? Am I being baited right now?

them nevermind

melee's clones were always cancer and should never have been accepted by the fanbase, and this is coming from a guy who loves to play as captain Ganon

If you have friends who like Smash, definitely. The competitive scene is forever kill thanks to Nintendo and GimR, but it's still great to play locally. Shit like the costumes, 64 stages, and All-Star Versus make it fun even if you're not super into competitive.

>tfw the PMDT still have a stranglehold on the community
>tfw we'll never be able to have a continuation of PM with Lyn &Knuckles that isn't banned on every Smash forum

>Trainer's pokemon never got Final Smash attacks

They did in 3.5. They're not that interesting, but they work fine considering it's a mod and they have full control over editing the game.

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Who /Ike/ here?

>It's for adults
>beeyotch

Definitely. Everyone is well-balanced and the changes in stage design mean less stupid hazards. Mah nigga Ivysaur is a beast in this game.

>tfw we already have custom stages that look as good as the official ones

youtube.com/watch?v=PbJm0eIB838

>tfw the people who made this want to do FoD next

I do miss Delfino Plazo though, no need to remove that one.

>Everyone is well-balanced
Being too dead to develop a meta doesn't count as balance, user.

GimR is the guy who owns VGBootcamp, a Youtube channel that posts videos of tournaments. It used to post a lot of PM tournaments as well as Melee, but then GimR got a Nintendo sponsorship and removed all PM videos from the channel, claiming he would reupload them later on a separate channel but I don't think he ever did.

I don't think GimR did as much damage as Twitch banning PM or the PMDT disbanding, but he's still a jew.

Making a shitton of useless characters viable is balance. I like most of the changes made.

>I like
Oh well then I guess it's settled. If you like it, it must be balanced.

Isn't it selectable in 3.6 along with most of the other Brawl original variations?

Legacy XP doesn't have that skin.

Part of me wants to learn Smash 4 modding now just so I can try to help bring Ivysaur, with her PM moveset, into the game as soon as they figure out how to add new character slots. I saw someone already working on porting Wolf a while ago.

Don't forget about me.

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I should've reworded it to sound more objective, like "most of the changes are great" or something.

>The competitive scene is forever kill thanks to Nintendo and GimR

There has literally been a national circuit going on for the entirety of 2016 and it's about to have its final event in October. Pay attention, boi

I actually forgot about Brawl-, but I'm glad they're still trucking.

I'm surprised they're still trucking. With Nintendo being so DMCA-happy lately, it's a miracle they haven't been served with one.

>3:43

The only places that ban PM mod discussions are the SSBPM subreddit. Pretty sure Smashboards has no policy against it and r/smashbros is even fine with hosting leaks.