>refuses mods for the PS4 version of Fallout and Skyrim >increases the price for Playstation+ for no justifiable reason >servers always going down or hacked >at the same time the Playstation+ game rewards have gone to shit >going to charge for Playstation Pro patches >console underperformed, so they shaft it and launch a new one that makes the old obsolete >despite all this and more, Sony fans will aggressively defend and project to the bitter end
Don't forget >hype up No Man's Sky >hype up Order 1886 >hype up Watch Dogs and lie about 1080p/60fps >no game on their system can reach double digit sales >nothing but remasters/ports
Thomas Peterson
>>console underperformed, so they shaft it and launch a new one that makes the old obsolete the new one isn't even good
Levi Sanchez
Amazing.
Jayden Gutierrez
Itt people mad the more people are excited about the Pro than literally anything Xbox can or will put out.
Its okay guys. Maybe you'll win the next gePFFFFHAHAHAHAHA
Jeremiah Long
I think I remember there being a price increase in Europe a while back. If that's true then I guess its fair to increase the price in the states too. But that's really the only thing I had to say. The other arguments are probably valid points.
Isaiah Johnson
I'd say this is bait but real Sonyponies actually think and speak like this so in the end there's no difference between a retard and a faggot pretending to be a retard
Asher Richardson
How nice of them to throw Gen9 after being given Gen8.
Juan Turner
>after being given Gen8
But PS3 was dead for almost the entirety of its lifespan
Isaac Martinez
Thanks for telling me how mad you are, but Im not you therapist.
Isaiah Smith
>first to introduce "upgraded" consoles to get more money out of people. >upgrade can't even deliver 4k Blu Ray or 1080p 60fps standard, $100 more than competitor >no backwards compatability, charge for rereleases >charging even more for an online that gets hacked and shut down every month >filling it's library with weeb shit, indie shit and shovelware, because quality < quantity >Focus on VR shit >not willing to allow cross play even when other people are >making little to no effort to make the industry better >paid patches >not allowing more content to be added to their games for FREE
Landon Rogers
>refuses mods for the PS4 version of Fallout and Skyrim
mods are for PC anyways
Brayden Sanders
>PS3 was dead >sold more than 360 Wjat
Ayden Hall
Why would I be mad that I didn't buy the shinking ship that is the PS4?
>sales is the only thing that determines a victory
PS3 started the no games meme, you know. It's just like now how PS4 is selling but it's so shitty.
Brayden Brown
Not defending sony here but I'm 100% certain Xbone will sell Xbox at a fucked price such as $700 or $600
Kevin Davis
Whatever the price, you can still say Xbox isn't monetizing its updates and patches.
Luke Morales
>sales is the only thing that determines a victory
Games do though and the PS3 out paced the 360 when they got Kinect crazy since 2010.
Noah Evans
PS3 was the seventh console gen. Gen 9is PS4Pro, Scorpio and NX.
James Myers
is the mods thing true? and paid patches?
Benjamin Walker
There is only one thing i dont understand. How do people play at sub 30fps on 720p Are people so fucking blind. It gets to a point of a slide show,no game is enjoyable wen it takes 10 minutes to line up your move.
Daniel Ross
>updated consoles (which are pretty much how the consoles should have shipped initially) are now considered a new gen >even though they'll have the same games and pretty much be exactly the same
Fair enough, but you have to agree the PS3 was super slow for the first few years.
Gaming really is in a sad state. That's like saying the DS Lite is a new gen from the DS.
Check the catalog. There's plenty of threads with sources for both.
The sad part is, Sony's still the best choice this gen by a longshot.
Ryan Anderson
It's amazing how much a company can change when they're the underdog.
Nathan Baker
Good thing I play offline nearly 100% of the time. But still as a fan of Playstation I really hope that they realize that they are making some stupid decisions. I was really looking forward to modding my Fallout 4 and the upcoming skyrim remastered, and this really disappoints me. I might just save money for a xbox one or a gaming laptop.
Grayson Miller
Jesus, the drones won't stop. Literally any other choice is better
Grayson Roberts
The NX marks the start of the new generation, and people will count Pro and Scorpio as part of it. Sony themselves even referred to Pro as a new console, and not just an incremental upgrade.
Brayden Wright
You mean kind of like how Sony was acting when Xbox one was first announced with its Drm and other weird policies?
Grow up, all companies do it.
Benjamin Brooks
That's factually incorrect though. Microsoft has taken advantage of Sony being idiots and have pretty much confirmed that Scorpio is going to blow the new Playstation 4 out of the water.
The fact that Sony thinks it qualifies as a new console just further supports the statement that gaming is in a sad state.
Joseph Cooper
the sonycuck desperation is reaching pathetic heights
Jason Jenkins
what about the patches.
John Rivera
No they don't you fucking moron. It will have no exclusive titles.
Brayden Morris
But it's surprising how quick the tables have turned, it's like we're seeing the giant enemy crab sony all over again
Jackson Clark
>Grow up Take your meds you sperg.
Cooper Price
Kek how can you still be so delusional to not notice how MS won with Win10?
Juan King
So much of this is just straight up lies. Scorpio was revealed first. The 4K bluray thing is eh. I buy a videogame console to play videogames. If I want something to watch movies on, then maybe I'll consider the Xbox, because it sure as shit doesn't have anything on it worth playing I can't already play better on my PC or PS4. Also its 100 more than the BASE MODEL. I'm sure when they play catchup with Scorpio it will cost the same. Are you retarded? Every PS4 game can be played on the Pro. Ironically, Xbox Live has had more downtime than PSN in 2016. Indieshit, weebshit, and shovelware is better than LITERALLY NOTHING on Xbone. As opposed to focusing on augmented reality shit like the Xbox? Are we also ignoring the PCs focus on VR? Wjat. The PS4 has had the most crossplay games this gen. SFV, guilty gear, rocket league, DC Universe Online, etc... I guess they should have tried to be anti consumer like MS at the beginning of this gen. Lets not forget that Street Fighter V wouldn't exist if it weren't for Sony. Also, who was it that picked up Kojima after Konami shafted him? Literally not a thing. Stop believing Kotaku clickbait. Also a huge lie.
Jesus man did you forget to take your meds?
Jack Flores
The Sonydrone has finally entered the building.
Luis Morgan
>going to charge for Playstation Pro patches
here's what you people do: you lick kotaku's balls in the hope they get an erection and fuck sony. I mean you spread obvious clickbait (and already refuted) bullshit out of pettiness.
A lot of PS4 owners don't pay for PS+. the Xbox subscription still has a higher adoption ratio.
With all due respect I think the very approachable 399$ price tag and the holiday day launch, anally devastated you.
Ryan Gonzalez
B-b-but muh Kotaku!
Polygon, Gamespot, and other websites have all reported the same thing. But of course, unsurprisingly, you faggot drones are already prepared to eat shit.
Go back to Neogaf, your echo chamber misses you.
Angel Carter
>he actually thinks they won't sell pro upgrades
retard
Ian Sullivan
The drones are here.
>Scorpio was leaked, and it isn't even going to be released till after ps4 pro does odds are >Scorpio is already confirmed to be a shit ton more impressive than pro >console can't even provide 4k Blu ray, a format Sony also owns. The irony... >talking about ps3 games on ps4, dumb ass >Xbox live being down more than psn? Kek. >console x has no games meme. What is SO, QB, Rare replay, etc. merging of Xbox and windows pc gaming is actually a good thing in the long run. >cross play with Xbox on games like rocket league won't happen because of sony
sony is already anti consuner, no need to go back in time to change it.
Brody Stewart
Did they increase the price for PS+ worldwide or just in certain countries?
Thomas Allen
I'll bite.
>Scorpio was revealed first. Scorpio was leaked. Sony's official reveal of Pro was before Microsoft's official reveal of Scorpio. >The 4K bluray thing is eh. I buy a videogame console to play videogames. Just because YOU don't care about it doesn't erase the bad thing. Especially since Sony owns the format. Also, you're lying if you say you buy consoles to play video games, because you bought a PS4. >Are you retarded? Every PS4 game can be played on the Pro. He's clearly talking about PS3 games. Wii U and Xbone both have backwards compatibility. >Ironically, Xbox Live has had more downtime than PSN in 2016. Nice joke. >Indieshit, weebshit, and shovelware is better than LITERALLY NOTHING on Xbone. I'm not defending Xbone, so I'll just say it's ironic you count that sort of stuff for PS4 when you and your cancerous kind disregard everything on PC with the same terminology. >Wjat. The PS4 has had the most crossplay games this gen. SFV, guilty gear, rocket league, DC Universe Online, etc... No Xbone crossplay for many of them. >I guess they should have tried to be anti consumer like MS at the beginning of this gen. They've been even more anti-consumer than MS since then. >Literally not a thing. Stop believing Kotaku clickbait. Already addressed by this person here >Also a huge lie. No.
Sonyggers will always be the promoters of making the game industry worse.