I've been saying it here since 2006, it was true then, and it's true now. Let's just look at some blatantly anti-consumer practices, annoyances, and where they've lagged behind in tech.
1. Horrible PSN security policies, constant hack, downtime, and slow adoption of things like 2 factor auth.
2. The "Welcome Back" server fiasco
3. No username edits on PSN
4. No option to buy games that are currently a part of your PS+ Rentals (don't you dare call them free games, they are rentals for the length of your membership as are Xbox One games with Gold (and not like 360 games with gold which are actually games you own and keep)) and no way of cancelling early (you must instead let the membership run out), meaning if a game is a rental and it's gonna be pulled and you want to own it, too fucking bad, you'll have to keep renting for life to play it.
5. No system-wide scaling on PS3 to always feed your panel its native res (unlit every other single HD console on the planet, like 360, Xbox One, and even Wii U), meaning the tv had to do the scaling work for some games inducing lag.
6. No fucking stereo out option on PS4 for audio. If you don't have surround sound and just use the TV's speakers, too fucking bad, enjoy your shitty simulated surround.
7. No option to add storage to the console, you can merely replace it.
8. No mods for fallout.
9.Adding arbritary rules to what vita games can and cannot play on Vita TV.
11. No UHD BD playback on a console that's supposed to be all about 4K, when its competitor does it at 100 USD less.
12. Horrible, horrible NIC on PS4, using that as a selling point on PS4 Pro by making it passable.
That's just off the top of my head. I still don't understand how they remain so popular. Yes, the systems do have a few nice exclusives going for the, no one is saying otherwise, but what a shit, shit company. I hope they don't remain in the top for long, already the competition has beaten them for 2 months, and Nintendo stole the hunger 2 days prior. If they slip then they will have to do a good job, which can only benefit everyone. Look at what Microsoft did with the One. They outlined some plans (didn't actually do anything mind you, just outlined their vision), it wasn't taken well, and they did something about it. That needs to happen to Sony.
I don't know what's worse, the company or its blind Sonygger fanboys. We all deserve better, you deserve better, so demand better. I'd like to see a pro-consumer Sony.
Nathan Phillips
DELETE THIS
Lucas Jenkins
Rule number 1: don't assume Sony ponies have brains. Most of them think they are getting free games after all.
I was fucked over too. Had to get castle of illusion on steam.
Hunter Mitchell
I agree with all of these but I hate the xbox too much to get anything else. Never ever forgetting that always online shit they tried to pull.
Charles Ramirez
STOP! DELETE THIS NOW BEFORE I CALL THE CYBER POLICE!
Easton Rogers
Not as long as Nintendo exists
Jaxon Walker
I hope you realize that out of the big 3, sony is the most developer friendly.
Sure, they are getting close to microsoft level of cancer, but its still the best place for a developer to make game for. Lets not even start about nintendo and the "if you arent first party dev, fuck you" mentality.
Lucas Adams
>4. No option to buy games that are currently a part of your PS+ Rentals
Go to the store and buy the game. Iamsosmrt
Jacob Mitchell
It's all true, but it has the weeb games I need.
I recently took my PS4 home to my parent's place and was too lazy to configure Internet. Literally couldn't find out how to take a screenshot without that.
Kayden Rivera
Been a sony fan growing up and still am. I like their products but they really need to get their shit together. I mean, the playstation meeting had only one passing mention of higher framerate. They need to get their heads out of their asses and know that performance is better than graphics. PC will kill the brand if it continues this way desu.
Isaac Russell
You do know the reason that 3DS and WiiU had such abysmal launches was because Nintendo tried to bend over backwards for third parties and they DIDN'T step up aside from a handful of exceptions, right?
Elijah Thompson
>Rule number 1: don't assume Sony ponies have brains.
I'm kinda glad a bit of console war shit is still going on but it's just meh.
Leo Kelly
meanwhile Xbox introduced paid online to consoles, popularized console shooters, paid map packs, pretty much wanted to spy you with Kinect (still do with W10), wanted to make physical copies useless, 360s broke down all the time, and raped Rare
Charles Baker
You forget digital exclusives. I got lucky and was able to buy a gamestop license code for Scott Pilgrim and Simpsons Arcade once they were pulled. Not being able to buy what is rented is anti-consumer. On the competitor side, on Xbox you can buy anything you can rent, any time, even when it is on sale. You don't have to get anything you don't like. If you aren't felling the Xbox, you could always get a Nintendo system or a PCC if you don't want a playstation. Xbox One S is looking really good right now for a lot of people though. Well, can you still say that? Microsoft's development process has opened up a lot, and with the advent of UWP, it is opening up even more. Microsoft sees the value of working with devs now. As for Nintendo, they have become more friendly and open to dev with a new site even.
And now, anyone can make Nintendo games, from small indie studios, to behemoth publishing groups. Sony clearly doesn't have a developer friendly edge anymore if they had one to begin with.
Nathan Kelly
and sony made it worse and did other shit
both are cancer, sony is worse.
Austin Edwards
nah, Xbox pretty much created/popularized everything people hate about modern gaming.
Camden Harris
Sony would never have had the guts to pull that shit on their own. Its microsoft who open pandora's box of the current jew gaming industry. Microsoft is trully the cancer that spreads and infects others.
Elijah Jackson
>this somehow makes Sony the good goys
Oliver Morales
Can I be real for a second?
This community is fucking atrocious right now. You're all acting like a bunch of whiny, entitled little babies.
A large team of people made an entire new console for you to enjoy. They made it for YOU, and they're going to wake up tomorrow morning and see that instead of enjoying it, this community of "fans" picked out the 3 or 4 things that weren't perfect and are using that to fucking riot.
Guess what? The PS4 PRO was never going to be perfect. It was never going to live up to your hype. It was never going to be everything you'd ever want in a console.
What it WAS going to be was an impossibly near 4K resolution filled with HDR colors, I just played it for 2 hours and it was exactly that.What more do you want?
Is it not true 4K? Sure. Is it still 30fps? Maybe. Is the design imperfect and the BluRay 4K feature absent and the purpose unclear? Sure, fine.
But holy shit what do these people OWE YOU?
How fucking entitled do you have to be to enjoy a 4K experience in a $399 console and then say "yeah but..."
We should all be fucking weeping in our chairs right now at the sheer size and scale of the achievement. We should be showering the people behind this thing with the praise they deserve for pulling off one of the most inspiring consoles in recent memory.
Sony doesn't owe you a new console. Yet they gave you a 2 of them.
If you have the fucking audacity to complain about it then you don't deserve it and you were never fans in the first place.
Julian Taylor
>underageb& thinks consoles have only been around since Xbox 360
Jackson Nguyen
Nice pasta lad
Jordan Collins
Critizism is good. Just because people complain doesn't mean they don't appreciate a product.
Samuel Moore
>mfw lik sang
Carter Cruz
these kids dont even know about the first vidoe game crash
Jacob Johnson
>it's a 'tripfag thinks his opinions matter' episode
I'll keep playing my weebs games while you go on a one-man crusade against a company
Hudson Adams
More pasta than a Garfield comic.
Justin Young
I was a Nintendofag from 1995-2012. When the Wii U was announced I thought it was a horrible mistake on Nintendo's part and I gave up on vidya for a few years. Last year I bought a PS3 and 4 so I could finally get around to playing all the games I never did. So while you're definitely correct I still think that PS4 is the lesser evil when compared to the Xbone or the failure that is the Wii U.
Noah Watson
They're all 15 and their yearly allowance is $400 what so you expect Anyone with an actual job that cant stand pcuckoldry and primarily games Sony exclusives on a ps4 is going to upgrade, but don't expect anything but shitposting here until they all have to cram for Algebra I finals
Thomas Edwards
Nothing wrong with pointing out flaws
Henry Hall
Well my dad works at Nintendo and he says you're gay.
Your mom also works at the strip club and she says I can come back anytime.
Ryder Rodriguez
I know, I miss them too. There is nothing wrong with pointing out the bullshit is something that shouldn't get praise. Sony owes it to their loyalist fans, some blind by fandom to see faults, to do better, and make more pro-consumer choices.
And no, no 4K UHD BD playback is complete bullshit. IF their competitor can do it for 100 USD less, it's a conscious matter of choice and nothing more.
Nicholas Peterson
Put your trip back on so you can stay filtered
Liam Rivera
True but you dont have to post pasta after pasta
Aiden Richardson
Yea but can you play Bloodborne™?
Parker Baker
Pure exclusives/console exclusives for PS4
Gravity Rush 2 Yakuza 6 God of War 4 Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age The Idolmaster The King of Fighters XIV Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8: Final Chapter Prologue The Last Guardian New Hot Shots Golf Ni-Oh Ratchet & Clank Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End Dead or Alive Xtreme 3: Fortune Disgaea 5: Alliance of Vengeance Everybody's Gone to the Rapture Fairy Fencer F: Advent Dark Force Horizon Zero Dawn Dreams Inferno Climber Song of Memories Bloodborne Driveclub Knack Killzone: Shadow Fall inFAMOUS: Second Son Omega Quintet Onechanbara Z2: Chaos The Order: 1886 Tearaway Unfolded Detroit: Become Human Until Dawn Deep Down Valkyria: Azure Revolution N++ Robinson: The Journey Dragon Quest XI Kitchen Combo Steel Diao Bao Kill Strain RIGS Matterfall Without Memory A Few Days Left Anger Force Fanta Blade The Castle Game Celestial Sword WiLD The Witch and the Hundred Knight 2 Headmaster The Tomorrow Children Fat Princess Adventures 3on3 Free Style AlieNation Sword of Heaven Godling KOI Guns Up! Wattam Super Hypercube SpookMash Prismatic Solid Never Gone Gran Turismo Sport Hardware: Rivals RIME What Remains of Edith Finch VizionEck Summer Lesson Stories: The Hidden Path Ready to Run One Upon Light The Lost Brawl Drawn to Death Inferno Climber Shadow of the Beast Code: 12 Kido: Ride on Time Mobile Suit Gundam Let it Die Ace Combat 7 Ni No Kuni II: Revenant Kingdom Modern Zombie Disaster Report 4 Little Nightmares Wild Guns Reloaded Days Gone Here They Lie Spider-Man Bound Tethered VEV: Viva Ex Vivo Death Stranding Crash Bandicoot remaster
And many, many more
Jeremiah Wood
Yes, I can actually.
And I have.
And I still think Sony is being a little shit and has been for some time.
Jeremiah Johnson
>I've been saying it here since 2006, it was true then, and it's true now It wasn't true in 2006 but it is arguable today
>No option to buy games that are currently a part of your PS+ Rentals This shit sucks, essentially when the game you want to buy is on sale. I believe that this hurts Sony (loss of money through marketplace) more than it helps them (encouragement to keep paying for PS+).
>No username edits on PSN Again this must be hard for Sony to do because they would charge for name change. They are leaving money on the table.
>No mods for fallout. Sony has a bad history of their consoles getting hacked, I'm assuming they are just attempting to prevent that. Still really shitty though.
>I don't know what's worse, the company or its blind Sonygger fanboys. I can tell already that you're going to respond favorably to my comment.
Robert Robinson
if you couldnt tell by the picture I was fucking around
David Hall
a lot of those are ports a lot aren't even out
lmao
Owen Gray
>Dead or Alive Xtreme 3: Fortune
1 game that's worth it
Ian Hill
MODS please stick this thread
Ryan Hall
Oh, hi Sean!
Connor Davis
>y.yeah but all those games suck! Yeah, they all suck! 'cause I said so!
Am I doing it right ?
Levi Adams
>No UHD Sony no longer own majority of stake on UHD BD development, Microsoft does. This is different from the BDA which Sony is a co owner.
>No mods for fallout Besthesda can't really promise quality of the mods on their disclaimer so why would Sony approve and host them?
Owen Bailey
Tell it to someone who gives a fuck, Tripfag.
Carter Martin
>7. No option to add storage to the console, you can merely replace it.
Did Nintendo start shipping their consoles with a HDD rack? Did Microsoft stop selling HDDs for their consoles with a 50% markup?
Many existing PlayStation 4 games will be patched to add support for the PlayStation 4 Pro’s increased power and high dynamic range (HDR) color features. But the publishers of those games may charge players for those patches, reports Game Impress Watch.
When asked if the 4K or HDR patches for PS4 games would be free, Masayasu Ito, an executive vice president at Sony Interactive Entertainment, told the Japanese website Game Impress Watch (translated by Kotaku) that "it will be different for each title," depending on "the thinking of each licensee."
At that point, Ito was referring to third-party publishers. But when Game Impress Watch asked him to clarify whether the same would be true for games published by Sony, Ito said so, telling the site, "I think it will vary for each one of our titles." PAID A I D
Yeah because they fucked them over raw with no lube, in the ass, then pumped them full of HIV when they tried to develop for the wii. I don't blame them, it was fucking impossible to get ANYTHING as an indie dev during the height of the wii's popularity, then I got an email when the wii u was being launched offering me a special offer on a dev kit and license, FUCK THEM. /edge
Jacob Allen
>up to the publishers so bethesda is gonna charge extra for it, what else is new?
>console exclusives for PS4 Delete that line, and you only get 4 or 5 titles.
Colton Roberts
>Mona Fan Says the faggot who appears in Smash autism threads
>Put 3 cards of 20$ in Nintendo eShop >"the account was suspended due to suspicious activity"
Fuck Nintendo, I call them and they told me that they can only refund 20% of the wallet. It was literally my worst experience with a vidya company, since then I moved to PC and I pirated my Nintendo consoles. Fuck the NX, 3DS will be my last console
Also >Close Club Nintendo >"We promise that our new service will be better for our consumers!" >Nintendo Rewards is beyond bad practises like having to buy a fuckton of games to get a single VC game or coins has an expire date. Others things include no phsycal rewards and give small and shitty discounts via Nintendo coins meanwhile Sony and Microsoft give deals all the week
Literally Sony Rewards (which was a thing since about ten years) is a better service
Jacob Hall
So your telling me that Microsoft called up Activision and Bethesda and told the to start making dlc?
Nicholas Williams
Honestly I think Nintendo is worse. Sony is scummy yes but at least they manage to be more modern and up to date than Nintendo has ever managed to be with their archaic shit design philosophies.
Thomas Ortiz
>Honestly I think Nintendo is worse.
Levi Bailey
No option to trade and upgrade to newer hardware.
PSN price increases because muh inflation
Ps3 store and psn interface is a laggy mess while the ps4 version is as smooth as a whistle.
No backwards compatibility not even an attempt like Microsoft does which is better than nothing.
FUCK SONY. After the news of this bullshit hardware upgrade I'm not buying shit from them again.
Jack Reed
Oh I almost forgot.
PSNow subscription. They will t offer backwards compatibility but they let you rent and buy older games through their shitty streaming service.
Ps2 games and psp games cost between $14 - $39.00 still in 2016.
Shit even psone games for the vita still cost $9.00 - $15
That's another thing. Doesnt support the vita. They develop one of the sexiest handheld ever and just let it die. FUCK SONY.
Ayden Rodriguez
No one tops Nintendo in anti-consumer
Henry Hernandez
They are
Josiah Hughes
Try Hard Xbot
Luis Sanchez
Scott Pilgrim was removed by the publisher themselves. Sony had little to do with that
Nathaniel Kelly
>no mods for Fallout 4
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
It's a shit game anyway, why be bothered? You'd have to be a normie or a pleb to enjoy that repetitive trash.
Christopher Diaz
Why do you care? Just don't buy it. When you see a shitty car that you are never going to buy, do you spend all day shitting on the car on /n/?
Sebastian Baker
Why be angry against a company? Why be a fanboy of a company? All I care about is my weeb games. Since I got a ps3 and some are coming to PC, I don't have to worry too much about the new consoles yet. Anyways, no Dark Cloud 3, No Buy ps4!!!!
Jason Foster
Microsoft is lying. The Xbone S can't play UHD Blurays. You're talking about brand new hardware here that costs at the minimum 500 bucks ALONE. They'll probably put one in The Scorpio, but that is a year from now when the UHD playback hardware is much cheaper.
Mason Wilson
Not sure why people are angry, sure ps4p sucks and is not worth it, but who is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to buy it? I got a used ps4 for 170 and it was worth it for the couple of weeb games.
Robert Edwards
Wanna hurt them? Don't buy their shit. I thought we went through this.
Jack Russell
I think they are angry people that already bought ps4/vita and got burned. Sadly PS4P is going to sell on price point and release date alone. It's pretty much the only console worth buying this holiday, xbox1s still has no games and is not as powerful as the ps4p.
Adam Campbell
>Steam workshop junk >Not playing PC version with all the trimmings and unique mods >Depending on a company to allow mods
While Vegas was fine on my PS3, id rather play on PC since I can make it more better.
Angel Brown
>still slightly better than Nintendo and Microsoft How the hell did this happen? Why is everything so shit?
Asher Cruz
At least we don't have to pay for online and the last time Nintendo gave out a bunch of free games, it was with no strings attached.
Charles Perez
people refuse to go pc + console + handheld. The complainers are console only peasants, if you own a pc, you don't care if fallout/skyrim gets mods on ps4.
Eli Reed
>console exclusives
Console exclusives being advertised as such is one of the dumbest things of the current gen.
Bentley Flores
Reminder that if you act now you can purchase a 3.60 Vita from a third-party, henkaku it, and either sink six gorillion dollars into a 16/32 gb card (from a third-party) or wait for the cheap chink alternative. The only thing holding you back is brand loyalty.
Ethan Foster
I could care less about which console is which just give me good games. I got ps4, Laptop made to play worthwhile PC games on it, Wii-u and a 3ds, that all I need.
You stop giving a shit about caring about 'company loyalty' once you get a full time job.
You honestly think Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo or Steam could give a rat's ass about you're loyalty? All they want is the cash you have. It's business not a family. Just common sense.
Connor Long
But it was Sony that decided you cannot buy a PS + Rental while membership is active, meaning a lot of people didn't even have a choice TO buy the game before being pulled.
Mason Reed
>You stop giving a shit about caring about 'company loyalty' once you get a full time job.
This, once you go PC+Console+Handheld you stop caring what x or y company is doing.
Matthew Roberts
>b-but MS
Its worse when someone sees how shit something is and instead of leaning away they start doping it
Sony is objectively more shit for following suit. meanwhile MS saw the backlash and stopped most of what they planned on and got rid of the kinetic meanwhile sony is raising the price of their online when its worse and security is shit
they are the ones sucking CODS dick and talks more about movies than games and now they plan on charging for basic updates
You can contact customer suppport to get the game removed from your library, it takes 10 minutes. I did it with a few games.
Robert Morris
And this is not broken how?!?!?!?
keep digging deeper sonypony.
Jaxson Cook
Why don't you just buy an xbox1s then?
Alexander Jenkins
Man like chill. It's just video games. Vote with your wallet.
Alexander Bell
I have an Xbox One, I have no reason to get an Xbox One S as I don't have an HDR panel. I'll probably never own one, and buy whatever project Scorpio ends up being called, should the games I really care about perform significantly better framerate-wise at least, to be worth the price.
Jaxon Price
Not native 4K, who cares
Blake Howard
So this thread is just to shit on sony for issues you have never experienced personally?
Grayson Reyes
>It's all true, but it has the weeb games I need. Pretty much this, I use my PC for multiplats and anything else.
Austin Gomez
Isn't that what most of the platform war threads are about?
Juan Barnes
We re talking about video here. video playback wise, the One S kicks the shit out of the PS4 Pro.
Microsoft was also upfront advising that all content would be scaled to 4K and that current games wouldn't be rendered at a higher resolution, but future games, such as Gears 4, can take advantage of such things like higher rendering and HDR.
That being said, it has been proven that Xbox One S actually plays some games SLIGHTLY better than on Xbox ONe.
Dylan Smith
I don't buy consoles to watch movies. I have a PC for that.
Julian Cox
Point is a console that is nowhere near what they are promoting it as should not be lacking UHD BD playback if the competitor does it for 100 bucks less.
Ryder Scott
Welcome to every Sup Forums thread, and then they'll retaliate with "I don't need to play/use it to know it's shit"
