What do you want to see in the next Mario & Luigi?

What do you want to see in the next Mario & Luigi?

Super Mario RPG 2

Replace green Mario with Geno

Mario and Luigi and Yoshi.
Shit goes down on Yoshi's island, the bros go to check it out, hilarity ensues.

A M&L title where is strongly based in SMB2USA.

Mario, Luigi, Peach and Toad as main characters. Bowser and Wart as the main antagonists.
Bring back the dream gimmick, but give it to Mario instead.
You know the rest.

A subplot of Peach going on an adventure.

This.
>A brother tower. Tetra attack. Waluigi uses a racket instead of hammer and wario uses metal gloves.

WARIO.

It's not that fucking hard, Nintendo.

I can already see this

Spinoff starring characters other than Mario and Luigi, like two regular minions or something. Maybe that bucket koopa with a goomba?

Maybe scale back the combat to just Mario and Luigi again? They acknowledged that adding even three characters was making things cluttered and at least to BIS and DT they split up the "multiple characters" into their own functional entities(e.g. Bowser fights on his own, Dreamy Luigi fights as a giant psychic clone army alongside the lone Mario), and the babies just acted as an extension of their adult selves.

And maybe more complex Bros attacks like SSS. I love the high flying antics of the "item" attacks but they're kind of long and drawn out compared to a few second button presses that do a shitton of damage and keep battles expedient. Plus the Mario Bros acrobatics are always fun to see.

Since Paper Mario is basically on life support until it either dies or they decide to rally with a Paper Mario: Awakening, I'd also like to see Mario & Luigi playing around more with different settings regarding the OG Mario races alongside their own OCs like the bean people. As well as Bowser's cast of regular minions.

Why not Hammer Brothers, where one of them is red, and the other is green, referring the Mario Brothers?

That'd be too obvious, though.
Maybe Bowser and Midbus?

Princess Peach joining the fight
Villain is Toad, not an evil Toad, just Toad and you beat the shit out of him during the entier game

One of these. Although I will say I'm partial to the idea of wario, simply because i feel like that allows for more creative freedom

Mario & Luigi in Nintendo World. It's just a step up from the inter-subseries crossover idea established in Paper Jam.

>I love the high flying antics of the "item" attacks but they're kind of long and drawn out compared to a few second button presses that do a shitton of damage and keep battles expedient.
Paper Jam fixed this. Bomb Derby and Cannonball Chunk only requires two buttons to execute.

Well, I mean, they've never been complex in terms of inputs, I meant that they just take a really long time comparatively so I'd never use them for anything but boss fights.

This. I've been waiting for this, and I'll probably die before this is even considered at Nintendo.

Again, mostly resolved in Paper Jam. Only Toad Trail and the Trio attacks are very long.

Alright I'll take your word for it, bro.

check it out on youtube. They're not 3-5 seconds like superstar saga's, but they're generally over in less than 10.

this would be fire

I want this now.

No, they take longer than ever in Paper Jam

Streamlined gameplay of Paper Jam, rich content of Dream Team.

Perfect Mario and Luigi game, right there. Boom.

Mario & Luigi Partners in Time 2: Future Shock

No, they don't. Maybe not in terms of SSS's fast bros attacks, but they still don't take long to execute. There's a boss in the game where you need to defeat in 6 minutes. If what are you saying is true, then the game would be impossible to complete.

>Paper Jam
>Streamlined gameplay
Lol, what the fuck
Only thing they got right was the inclusion of dashing

Are you sure you're not mixing it up with Dream Team?

>Bring back the dream gimmick, but give it to Mario instead.
I was going to ask why but then I released. So all I'm going to ask is "why do you want it back?"

It's actually 4 minutes.

Who'd be the villain?

Anons, Wario will never be in another non-competitive game because they would have to come up with more fart jokes.

>rich content of Dream Team.
???

Dream Team is the longest M&L.

I dunno. Game makes you think it's King Bowser (Jr) but it turns out he's been framed? I don't want yet another game where a Bowser is the main villain, even if it's an older Bowser jr.

Long doesn't mean good.

Get rid of the stupid minigame attacks that take up 20 minutes to perform

The game is 90% minigame shit now.

>play dream team
>pretty much a tutorial any time something new happens
>even when I say I don't want the tutorial, they'll tell me how to do something a battle later
>they even try to give you a tutorial more than once on multiple occasions
When does this shit stop? I'm already 1 1/2 hours into the game and it's still bombarding me with tutorials

BIS, the most praised and beloved M&L, is literally 90% minigames.

///touchscreen minigames///

Every game in this series got worse

Why?

It's the second most beloved game and that's only because people hated the baby gimmick.

That Bowser Jr looks more like Ludwig

It doesn't.

They heard all the criticism and made the next game, Paper Jam, completely optional for tutorials.

Whoops, sorry. 4 minutes.

My idea would be what?

Well, it would be a HUGE MISSED OPORTUNITY if they don't bring it back.

Plus, they could make the dreams short to complete.

He'd probably be Ludwig's age by that point.

It's not only tutorials they bombard you with. Every time the enter a new area, or come across something you interact with, they have to make sure the yellow ball and pillow react to it.

>Mario, doesn't that thing look important?
>That's all I wanted to say. Also fuck you Luigi.

Why did they still have the yellow balloon come back when it was clear the pillow was supposed to be her replacement for that game?

What did you guys think of the characters in Paper Jam? I wrote this out when it was fresh in my mind.

>Engaging tier
Luigi
Creased Paper Goomba
Larry

>Entertaining Tier
Paper Bowser
Roy
Wendy
Ludwig
Big BobOmb

>Kinda Fun Tier
Lemmy
Bowser
Mario
Kameks
Iggy

>Eh Tier
Paper Peach
Toadette
Bowser Jrs

>forgettable tier
Everyone not listed

>boring tier
Peach
Paper Mario
Morton

>annoying tier
Starlow
Most Toads

His name is King Bob-omb you unenlightened Mario lorecuck

Because he doesn't appear until you get to the dream world the first time, so they had to get somebody to give you tutorials before that, starlow kind of becomes irrelevant after that

Dude, the two Bowsers, Bowser Jr.s and Peach's stole the show. They should all be in the engaging tier

So she can mess with Luigis face during transformations. Why he can't sleepwalk, I don't know.

Either this: , thisor a Bowser & Bowser Jr.-centric game. Give Junior tools or the paintbrush and you could probably pull off some clever stuff.

i want smrpg2
fuck this mario&luigi/paper mario bullshit

I'll take a SMRPG HD remake, but only if the overworld is in the style of a 3D Mario.

yfw Mario and Luigi are the bad guys and the final bosses.

Who cares? Either are correct.

Really? They didn't do much for me. It was okay, just par for the course, they didn't really do anything that suprised or capticated me. I could have written their segments without trying because they act in the most generic and predicable ways their established character can.

What if the next Mario & Luigi goes 100% full 3D, no more sprites?

If you mean a game LIKE SMRPG, in that it takes things in a grand, new, creative direction with its own style and tone, instead of just another sequel to the 2 series that have run into the ground, I'd agree. If you mean an actual direct sequel to SMRPG, I doubt they could pull it off.

Then I think that's the last Nintendo series to completely axe sprites.

Then I stop caring about it like every other Nintendo IP.

Fire Emblem?

Mario and Luigi at the 2020 Tokyo Olympics.

>Join Mario and Luigi on a quest to save the 2020 Tokyo Olympics from certain peril as Bowser joins forces with devious Couch 'Tators
>Partner with your favorite Olympians from around the world to discover value of friendship, hard-work and sportsmanship.
>Laugh to your heart's content in this charming heart-warming RPG with a cast of characters charming as they are adorable.

Not the same user, but I liked them because of their interactions. The Juniors' felt more like anti-villains and I think this one of few Mario & Luigi games to focus on Peach.

Paper Mario carried the fucking game

>what M&S Olympics 2020 would be like in a fair world

The Bowsers were dark as fuck in this game-- one of their darkest depictions in years. The two Bowser Juniors were sympathetic and you get to see an aspect of their personality that used to be only hinted at. And Peach finally airs out all her Stockholm Syndrome confessions with her double and is actually effectual once or twice instead of purely being a damsel in distress.

I said I liked the Bowsers in my ranking.
Peach kind of sucked in that game, I liked her more in SMRPG and PM. Their actions and dialogue were just totally predictable.

I can see Yoshi happen easily since his fludder jump works the same as Paper Mario's

I would kill to see a retired Bowser in a hawaiian shirt driving through golf courses with a muscle car and doing whatever the fuck he wanted

>Peach expresses that she's tired of getting kidnapped and relying on Mario
>Immediately gets kidnapped and relies on Mario
What's the point of having a player save someone after showing them that they secretly hold some resentment for you for being stronger than them? That doesn't make me want to save her, that makes me want to play as her so she can save herself.

I know it's Mario but no character development is better than faux development.

I literally just made this for this thread.

Mario and Luigi must fight a new robotic villain who teams up with Donkey Kong. Donkey Kong wants all the minis, and the villain can help DK get them, only if he helps him take over the world to robotize it.

Mario and Luigi use armies of mini marios as the replacement for trio attacks, and bros attacks are more similar to SSS's than Item based ones, though some still use items.

In battle it's just mario and luigi. Only when the mini-mario attacks are chosen do they reveal themselves to attack. The same goes for the overworld. It's just mario and luigi, unless the minis are called upon (probably through some L and R actions) do they come out to perform tasks.

Also wario and waluigi appear throughout the story, basically being the Popple and Rookie of the game.

Disgusting.

Fuck off, only the first Mario Vs DK was good

...

this, dream team was a fucking slog of a game

>Donkey as a villain.
I always hated the Mario toys series. I know they both got their start from being enemies but they've gone on to become heroes. Mario vs DK is a relic of the past that should never be brought up.

Perhaps if it was like BiS where you also played as Donkey so it wasn't completely one sided it'd be good.

Fawful.

I'll you what I don't want: I DON'T want another stale setting with stock NPCs like Paper Jam

Donkey Kong is the secondary villain. He's like the Midbus of the Robot villain.

you mean Donkey Kong on the game boy?

Donkey Kong is Chaotic Neutral. Sure, he'll protect his island and banana hoard from invaders. But he'll still kidnap Pauline if the right mood hits him.

Nintendo should have left the Donkey Kong/Mario and Donkey Kong Country totally different canons. Donkey Kong is the original and an antag, DK Jr is on his dad's side but he's good natured and more intelligent. Leave DK Jr. in Mario Kart 64, Donkey Kong Country gets its own spin-offs. Donkey Kong '94, G&W Galleries, and Mario's Tennis did it right.

Do you hate the characters from those games in particular? Because it's not like I'm adding the gameplay from the MvDK games

>Engaging tier
Bowser Jr.
Paper Bowser Jr.
Koopalings
Paper Bowser

>Entertaining Tier
Luigi
Mario
Paper Mario
Goomba
Bowser
King Bomb
Lakitus

>Kinda Fun Tier
Kamek
Paper Kamek
Toads
Yoshis

>Eh Tier
Peach
Paper Peach

>forgettable tier
Toadette

>boring tier
Paper Toads

>annoying tier
Starlow

Change forgettable tier into uncharacteristically bitchy tier.

Game where you play as Wario and Waluigi. Mario and Luigi appear as the heroes of another story, and you fight them at least once.

Well, it's not like Toadette has an established personality.

Another Superstar Saga alike.
>Mario and Luigi can switch places
>No annoying companion
>Completely new island full of strangers

This with the Wario & Waluigi idea would be fucking great

I never imagined her to be a super genius inventor.
Didn't the Mario & Luigi games already have several other geniuses that move the plot along with inventions and gadgets? I thought it was strange that Toadette was that role in Paper Jam.

I like it. Imagine how cool would be the overworld, with jungles, big cities and factories.

Professor E Gadd and " by boogity!" Toadbert come to mind.

>E. Gadd

Gross, can't have that. Shove him in the "retired characters" bin with Toadsworth.

fuck you

I jizzed on that last sentence. Nintendo as they currently are are just incapable of being BASED enough to give us something so amazing.

All I really want, man. Leave even Bowser and Peach out of it, Mario & Luigi should go somewhere entirely new. The last time the series did something like that was Super Mario Land.

Except Nintendo doesn't own M&L IP. Alpha Dream does.

Also, if Nintendo is incapable of creating new characters, then what's Nabbit?

A soulless character made just to sell plushies and shit, and a worse version of Croco.

Peach fully nude