Sony: PC is the main competitor against PS4 now

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>In fact, he says that Scorpio, or even the Xbox One S -- which, unlike the now standard slim PS4, also offers 4K video capabilities -- isn't even the PS4's biggest competitor. That honor belongs to the PC.

"I saw some data that really influenced me," he continues. "It suggested that there's a dip mid-console lifecycle where the players who want the very best graphical experience will start to migrate to PC, because that's obviously where it’s to be had."

>"We wanted to keep those people within our eco-system by giving them the very best and very highest [performance quality]."

Have Sony finally gone insane?

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Pc community is small. Only a handful build pc for gaming.

>Now

Arrogant Sony best Sony.
PS4.Pro already burning.

(You)

Well then the PS4Pro isnt for anybody then because no one who owns a PC will get one

This is bad news for PC because before Sony was willing to throw PC a bone here and there like with SF5 and now they probably will not

didnt they announced a ps4 mouse for like 100$ lmao.
microsoft office ps4 edition when?

Will Sony games (I can't into vidya industry) cease coming to PC, then?

>Have Sony finally gone insane?
Insane? They went full retard.

pic related they just donned themselves

Not really, they can't compete with Scorpio or gaming PCs so now their only competitors are Chromebooks and HP laptops. Sounds about right.

Most likely yeah. As Microsoft are pushing their games further towards PC to the point that the Xbone and Scorpio are basically stripped down Windows 10 machines.

>marketing a console to the PC crowd
Big mistake, that worked out well for the Steambox, eh?

Yep.

90% of the PC community are HUE's and Slavs with their shitty toaster PC's.

he's right you know. Most people don't bother and put a console on their TV when they wanna play video games.
Ask yourself why valve doesn't want to do half life 3.

This is like WW2 all over again with Japan thinking they can take on the US.

yeah probably, but this is opposite to the PSNow move to PC, but it's unlikely that Sony funded games will be headed to PC like Helldivers

So most Japanese games are going to be PS4 exclusive a lot more, probably? NieR: Automata somehow made it to Steam so I guess I'll be alright.

>Ask yourself why valve doesn't want to do half life 3.
because it is impossible to deliver on the expectations and it will hurt them in the long run

>very best and very highest [performance quality].
>no native 4k
>no fps increase allowed

Probably gonna sell my pc

>So most Japanese games are going to be PS4 exclusive a lot more, probably?
No, 3rd party can do whatever they want, that's why Nier is on PC because SE likes PC

What I mean are games than Sony has dipped their hand into like SF5

Devs not having to develop for old hardware is good for all enthusiast no matter if they play on console or pc. I wonder though how "normal" customers will react if they start to feel that they are getting the inferior product even in the console market.

The only thing i am really worried about this talk about the pc being their biggest competitor is that it sony will affect the amount of ports negatively. A lot more games are being ported to the pc which is a good thing.

>giving them the very best and very highest [performance quality]

on a console?

All my friends built PC's after I told them about mine. Now they don't play console. It's a big switch up these days, and it's mainly because the consoles lack the features PC's do. I mean, back in the early 90's it was closer with the transition from 4th to 5th gen, and that's where the consoles held strong. It's not like that now. I hope consoles pick back up, but I don't think Sony or Microsoft will be the ones to do it, and Nintendo just keeps shooting themselves. I would love to see Sega come back for some reason. Or just something instead of the big 3.

I actually feel pretty cucked after they announced nier on steam since I bought a ps4 for that and a few other exclusives

it's true, steam did a survey of users' hardware not very long ago and some insane percentage were on integrated graphics, and most of the rest still had a gtx750 at best.

More like because their PC consummers have shitty laptops and enjoys throwing $100 for skins in CS GO.
If you want to make an AAA with good graphics you better optimize it for consoles like CDPR with tw3.

This is fucking stupid

If you're worried about PC, don't try to "out graphics" them because it's just not going to happen. PC's are all in one entertainment systems, which is something consoles will never be able to replicate as efficiently.

Instead, focus on making more good exclusives so people on PC are forced to buy a PS4 if they want to play them. A library consisting of Bloodborne isn't good enough. Hopefully Persona 5 and Nioh help justify a purchase, but as it stands even the Wii U had way more good exclusives

Typical American.

Consoles and PCs use the same exact hardware these days. A "premium" console could easily play games at 1080p 60fps.

PC and Sony together for the win.

There's a dip because most people who wanted one bought one already you fucking idiot

You're shooting yourself in the foot over a niche market

PC parts are also very expensive in 3rd world shitholes so this makes sense.

Nips are discovering the weeb goldmine that is Steam. Expect a lot more PC releases.

Don't take this as the final word, but if you are into weeb shit you might have to consider a OG PS4, since it's bound to be cheaper then.

Sony arrogance is staggering at this point. Their fanboys inflated their ego so much and now they're quickly turning into a laughing stock.

I played 1080p 60fps years ago, I dont care about that anymore and it is definitely not the very best and very highest performance

Yeah, I'm not well versed in the finer details. Thanks for clearing that up.

Don't feel too bad, the more people playing it the better. Also, what other exclusives, user? NieR was going to be the one game that tempted me to get PS4. Probably Nioh too.

>Most Americans don't bother and put a console on their TV when they wanna play video games.
Fixed. PC gaming is huge in Europe and South America.

You won't ever find the surplus garbage they put in consoles in any PC made for videogames.

PS4 demolishes all other platforms in multiplat software sales, doesn't it?

arrogant sony is my favourite sony because the laughs don't stop coming

no, I am right by what I am saying

HL3 has been hyped up so much it became a meme, it is impossible to meet that expectation so they dropped it

Except that even their remaster console is weaker than a low grade PC.

>laughing stock
This has got to be bait, right? How are they a laughing stock? They're killing it in the console market and are offering people a nice mid cycle upgrade.

I don't understand the backlash here.

>PC gaming is huge in Europe and South America.
Definitely not here in France, same for UK.
Most ppl pay their ps4 to play cod/fifa and PC players = playing lol on macbooks.

A good 90% of people i know who started off this gen on consoles have moved on to PC. It's actually pretty funny, i only really use my PS4 and 360 for Netflix these days but whenever i am on them the amount of people who come online has been dropping steadily, there's only about 20 between both accounts that keep coming back on and most of them only use it for Netflix as well.

You know the hardware survey is opt-in? The last time I did a hardware survey I was on a Pentium 4 and AGP GPU.

>arrogant Sony
You know this is a Reddit term?
I think Sony are acting pretty based recently.

Still better than the average PC.

>preemptively "it doesn't count!"ing
are the Nintendoids getting smarter?

Look at this guy. Does he look like someone who actually plays games? Does he look like someone who even knows shit about games? He's just a marketer who talks out of his ass, he knows deep inside that a console cant compete with a PC.

World of final fantasy and 15, project diva x stuff like that

Oh that's ni-
I don't know what to do.

They are doing retarded anti-consumer shit after marketing themselves as being #forthegamers only 3 years ago. Who cares how much money they are making when it ends up fucking people over?

source : your ass.
By your logic they shouldn't have released HL2.
The reason is money. They don't want to bother when they make ton of money with laptops (cs go, dota 2), especially when they saw what happened with crysis.

What is the Xbox One S?

I thought it was just another name for the Xbox Scorpio

This. PS4 Pro will sell well, PS4 will continue to dominate, and there's not a single things xbox, Nintendo or PC fags can do about it.

>PS4 Pro is 43% weaker than Scorpio

That's PS1 versus Original Xbox bad. Yeah they aren't competing with that. Time to compete against the toaster market.

PS3, Xbox 360, OG Xbox already tried making PC-Killer consoles, it didn't work. Not sure why PS4-Pro will do any better
>PC Communutiy is small
>make a high-end console complete with the "small" community

Its like a xbox 1.5 or something. These companies are confusing the shit out of their customers.

So when will online become free again like the ps3?

Sonybros have a scary level of blind fanboyism.

Except continue to siphon off your remaining exclusives until all you've got left is Uncharted 4 and shit all over you in virtually every technical aspect.

problem is Xbone is American and nobody buys American consoles outside America

Hasn't Gaben said HL3 was in development though?

Cool, I wanted to win next generation

Bullshit % number bases on theory crafting

I bet it's more powerful but we'll wait on actual performance numbers

Oh wait you'll shitpost

How much do you reckon I'd have to pay if I traded in my PS4 and all its games (6) for a Scorpio

> Sony going full retard with PS4Pro
>Too late for Microsoft to make up ground for the disaster of the Xbox One release
>Nintendo surrendering to mobile games and offering no info about NX

Is this industry finally dying?

Pretty much this

The biggest threat is yet to come. The scorpio will shit on the pro by a good margin. They are afraid of MS and try to deflect to PC

Xbone Slim. Scorpio won't be out till Holiday 2017. Expect next Microsoft E3 to be alllll about it. The Playstation VR coming I've even heard that Hololens is astoundingly amazing, but it's not ready for consumers at the moment. Seriously Sony is going to have to get their shit together, this is looking really bad.

>no one who owns a PC will get one
I will definitely get one instead of upgrading my PC.

Still amazes me they went for that guy over Based Jack Tretton.

At least Jack Tretton is creditted for actually working on a video game (Gameplay and design consultant on Hot Shots Golf) along with tons of production roles instead of only marketing

My post was pure fact.

>exclusives
Microsoft has already lost all its exclusives to PC. PS4 is in a unique position as it is a popular system (unlike Wii U) with a tonne of exclusives (unlike Xbox).

PS4 Pro is exciting.

The thing is that Japanese games coming to PC doesn't really have any quality control. Koei Tecmo is infamous for their shitty PC ports that cost like 80 dollars even if the game is like 3 years old, but they released Attack on Titan adnd Nobunagas Ambition: SoI and the port quality wasn't bad for either of them. Japanese games that have a decent budget like Nioh will probably never make it to PC and release only on ps4 since the xbone sold like shit in Japan, but small developers will probably make more PC releases.

He is ceo of company, look at pic related who presents consoles.

which is pretty much gamer,game devoloper, etc.

try again pcuck

Post a picture of your Speecy with a timestamp. Almost guaranteed that you have some 400 dollar machine.

>Arbitrary price increase
>No mods
>Charging for HD patches
>No 4k blue ray support
>PS4 Pro unveiling was a disaster

Even if you're the best fast food in the world, you aren't going to attract people who go to restaurants

Enough said

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>SONYKEKS ON SUICIDE WATCH

they increased the psn price too recently.

>Is this industry finally dying?
i fucking hope so

Why are they always 30 fps then?

>sonycucks will literally defend this

>they are OFFERING a nice mid cycle upgrade
>a mid cycle UPGRADE that requires to buy a completely new CONSOLE at FULL PRICE
How nice of them. What a great deal they are offering to us consumers. We dont deserve this mid cycle upgrade that is basically a new fucking platform, the only reason it isnt called PS5 is for marketing purposes.

>opt-in, steam only surveys
el oh kek mi side are xddd

Anyone who believes that Microsoft still has a chance to defeat Sony in terms of sales number in this generation is dumb. Sony has definitely won this generation.

That is because Microsoft made huge marketing mistakes with the Xbox One. The catastrophic blunder has been a bit relieved afterwards, but Xbone still sells less than PS4.

Soon the next generation will begin (starting with the NX) and then Microsoft may be back in play. Until then, Sony has won, because who will buy an Xbone, even one with a fancy name?

Except that most people game on a pc.

>it's looking real bad for Sony

No it isn't. They've already killed it this gen. Scorpio is at least a year away. That's a year of PlayStation being nearly 3x as powerful as Xbox One.

>Xbox Scorpio will be the last Xbox console

Mark my words.

>it is impossible to deliver on the expectations
yes
>it will hurt them in the long run
lolno

Are there that many persona fags? And why has there been such a lack of good games lately?

>Pc community is small
LMAO all mmos combined has more people than ps4 users you fuckwit.

>"lol ps4 is better than toaster PC so console gaming is better xDE!!"

god you're so fucking stupid.

anyone who believes microsoft has chance to defeat PS4 in games are dumb too

what is point of xbox 1 then?

See
Now that is delusion when Xbox S isn't even coming til winter 2017

Well, yeah, of course. If you want to be precise, I own I3 + gtx650, which is even lower.
I don't see a point to buy a new PC when most of games I want to play are on PS4.Pro will also be upgrade for me since it destroys my current PC.

>"I saw some data that really influenced me," he continues. "It suggested that there's a dip mid-console lifecycle where the players who want the very best graphical experience will start to migrate to PC, because that's obviously where it’s to be had."

So is Sony going to be releasing a new console every couple years now? He has to realize the exact same thing is going to happen the pro too, I'd imagine AMD/Nvidia are going to attempt to really push performance on their next cards as Sony is sort of attempting a half-ass push into their territory.

I just sold my ps4 for 300€ and i'm done for gaming for now.
If the scorpio specs are the equivalent of a GTX1080 maybe ill reconsider buying a console.

HL3 will come out one day and it will indeed fail to meet expectations (it's literally impossible no matter what) but it will be very commercially successful in terms of revenue and won't be a bad game.

No, the most people play on mobiles.

PC niggers will happily shell out a few hundred for a new GPU. PS4 Pro is basically an RX 480.

In the past, Sup Forums would have welcomed the faster pace of tech advancement. Now you're blinded by memes.

It won't come out until Valve start to run the risk of going under, it's their trump card, they're keeping it for a rainy day.